Hope You're Happy, Lemon - Ch. 59

[Yuyuin]

I think the author may have gotten too attached to Lemon and is using this as a soft rewrite to get less people to dislike Lemon. It just doesn't make sense that this was how Sunao really reacted if he was having nightmares and was still traumatized 4+ years later.

 

[Umbrum]

He thought to himself it wasn't true and she wouldn't do that, but what is he supposed to think, if she keeps dodging him and starts acting strange to then just break up and drop the bomb on him herself with the cheating, without explanation whatsoever, after that she never reached out again, isn't all that unreasonable to start and develop doubts overtime

Yeah but then those doubts suddenly went away after meeting her like 2 or 3 times after the swapping began

 

[Nobi]

But mangadex people are anything but reasonable. There's a manga, Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi, about a single mother who returns to her ex-boyfriend she ghosted for over 14 years just to mooch off him, and people are like "Oh, that's so cute!". Absolutely fucked up.

Didn't know about that series. The manga itself is so-so, but the comment section is gold.

 

[TheGrandMugwump]

I don't get it. If he was so calm and knew none of it was true from the start then what traumatized him?

It's a badly done retcon, that's why. The author must be angling to make Lemon the victim for some plot twist at the end.

 

[Knighto]

I didnt expect his reaction to be this calm

author forgot the premise and how it was presented the MC😶‍🌫️

 

[Knighto]

Didn't know about that series. The manga itself is so-so, but the comment section is gold.

dammit sometimes the comment section is what makes a series worth to follow

 

[Rafalga]

So it is indeed a full blown retcon. Author couldn't find a way out from the hole and give Lemon a chance in Sunaobowl at the same time. What a hack. Don't start with an outrageous premise next time if you don't have the talent to see it through.

 

[Jotana]

When reading comments on this website, I sometimes feel like people somehow try to squese the "The author is just bad and does not even remember anything he did" premis on everything. Like yea he acted more chill then in chapter 1 but:

1. Chapter 1 was a bad dream. Resentment over this often builds up over time. Like yea when you just got dumped over something like this then you will have another take on the situation then 3 years later. I speak from first hand experience lmao.

2. People always go from the current state of a chapter. Like often things make more sense when all chapters are out. Like the flashback might still continue. We might get more from Sunao. We could see him build up resentment over time. (Which i thourght was implied but how most people react it aperently was not.) We also probably still get Lemons perspective on this in the next 3 chapters.

3. Even if it was a retcon what is so bad about it? Like it isnt like this is aot or something simmilar and they retconed that (insert spoilers.) which changed the entire naritive. (Which in aot happens but that is called a plot twist as it is also logical, which I would say it is logical here as well with him building up resentment over time).

 

[Mangamoz]

Yeah, they are totally prepping for ED claim girl to be revealed as the mastermind for all of this.

 

[AccForManga]

It's a badly done retcon, that's why. The author must be angling to make Lemon the victim for some plot twist at the end.

Its not really a plot twist.

We knew from the first chapter she was lying about the cheating, she explicitly said so to herself, and if so there must have been some big reason.

 

[Knighto]

Didn't know about that series. The manga itself is so-so, but the comment section is gold.

goddammit I read the first chapter and comments (around 50), 2nd chapter with over 200 comments hahaha holy crap, at least the discussion is not that unbalanced

Spoiler

between she's scum and people go touch some grass

thanks for the comment, will go back to laugh in the trenches

 

[Throwawail]

Odds are you're right, but I hope something else happened to make MC believe the lie, otherwise the MC being traumatized(it was relevant like 3 chapters ago) become a continuity error

to be fair, that entire subplot of Sunao being a foreveralone traumatised guy has been dropped for a while now.

edit:
I remarked on that at ch. 37.

 

[Dark1400]

to be fair, that entire subplot of Sunao being a foreveralone traumatised guy has been dropped for a while now.

edit:
I remarked on that at ch. 37.

but it was the talk with Sunao Friend about how Sunao said he would never date again after the break up that made Lemon talk with Sunao about the past, if Sunao wasn't traumatized the motive for the talk and flashback won't exist anymore, and the recent chapters won't make sense

 

[vagligeiro]

I don't really care if there were any adjustments compared to the first chapter. I always imagined that "Hope You're Happy" was about relationships. I like the concept that in the first chapter it was a dream. And dreams are manipulated according to internal desires too (hi BugEgo!).

So far we've been seeing the story from a "normal life" point of view. What we're seeing in the last chapters is Sunao himself recapping the before, during and after relationship. And I hope to see Lemon's side too.

Lemon and Sunao finally started talking about the end of their relationship. Let's see what happens after the flashback.

(And honestly I kind of "dropped out" of the series a little bit, I think a little after Rika showed up. Because it seems like the series really slipped. I tried to "let it go", but I think it was only now when they went to their parents' house that the series got a little better.)

 

[nxneil13]

From ch 1.
It’s kinda weird how calm and accepting he is in this chapter, it just doesn’t make sense.
Like I said many chapters ago, a topic this heavy should’ve come up the first time they met again, not now, 60 chapters in. And somehow they’re just acting like nothing happened and continuing to do things together. It’s just... feels so unnatural.
And now, of course, the author wants to make the readers sympathize with Lemon.

He thought to himself it wasn't true and she wouldn't do that, but what is he supposed to think, if she keeps dodging him and starts acting strange to then just break up and drop the bomb on him herself with the cheating, without explanation whatsoever, after that she never reached out again, isn't all that unreasonable to start and develop doubts overtime

Basically what Ninoren is saying.

First thing a lot people here are not understanding, is that 1, just bc a relationship breaks up, it doesn't mean both parties process the breakup at the same rate. People are saying he's really calm for the breakup, but thats not it, its really that he doesn't understand why / he knows that there is something missing from why she is breaking up with him, so he doesn't understand it and process it as a break up.

and 2, its important to understand the saying if enough people keep saying the same lie, it eventually becomes the truth. In this case, bc there was rummors of lemon 4-timing, lies were being spread, but the problem is that lemon just straights up says the rumor is true. She doesn't give any explanation or reasonings and just confirms the rumor. Bc the rumor is confirmed by lemon, and she doesn't give any evidence and there is nothing to disprove it, the mc just accepts as truth. It makes sense because no one says the truth, he is only told the lie, so he eventually accepts and believes it.

A good analogy would be, how you ever seen those videos of police brutally interrogating people in the cells for hours to make them give a confession? the whole point of it is that police are not trying to get the truth, they are only trying to get a confession for evidence, the confession could be entirely wrong, but bc the person confesses, it can be used to send them to jail.

 

[erintesden]

She didn't ghost him, they broke up and didn't had contact after that, not everyone keeps contact with someone after a break up, and we don't have any info on why they broke up, or why they didn't have any contact in 17 years

Thats kinda the point of why the situation is weird/off, though?
If they broke for something she did, then she must be a bitch for forcing her presence there.
If they broke for something he did, she is a shitty mother for bringing her daughter there.
Only decent option is if they broke for something "minor" by mutual agreement, if it were fault of the two of them.
Hell, at some point some had the theory maybe the daughter was his as well but she hadn't told him, but guess that's not the case if they really have been apart for 17 years (assuming they didn't actually meet again in that time and sleep together).

 

[Dark1400]

Thats kinda the point of why the situation is weird/off, though?
If they broke for something she did, then she must be a bitch for forcing her presence there.
If they broke for something he did, she is a shitty mother for bringing her daughter there.
Only decent option is if they broke for something "minor" by mutual agreement, if it were fault of the two of them.
Hell, at some point some had the theory maybe the daughter was his as well but she hadn't told him, but guess that's not the case if they really have been apart for 17 years (assuming they didn't actually meet again in that time and sleep together).

Kinda, but we don't know much about it, chapter 11 reveals that she was the one who broke up, but we still don't know why, so maybe there is a reasonable explanation, the mom is an airhead and a klutz, but she isn't malicious, so at worst it will be stupid

My theory is that she had to move out because of family problems or something like that and wouldn't be able to maintain a relationship in the new place

And my theory about the daughter is that is from a dead relative and the mom adopted her.

But those are just theories, at the end of the day we still don't know anything about what happened.

 

[jagfanbb]

This is the reasonable person's take.

But mangadex people are anything but reasonable. There's a manga, Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi, about a single mother who returns to her ex-boyfriend she ghosted for over 14 years just to mooch off him, and people are like "Oh, that's so cute!". Absolutely fucked up.

Ok ok but hear me out

 

[Nami]

The ceiling is so white...

 

[fight2live]

okay, now it's time to hear it from Lemon's side