I Can’t Date My Student… Can I? - Vol. 1 Ch. 6.1

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If nothing else, you have to admire her moxie. The chapter in general has striking pathos.*

...I'm just kind of sad, though, because she's so desperate for his reciprocated affection that she made herself completely vulnerable to him. Completely and literally baring herself like this is-- in my interpretation-- tantamount to her stating "I want to give you anything and everything" and "if it's you, you could even rape me", which is something I empathize with fundamentally.

On the other hand, her choosing to strip in front of him initially made me think "I hope she doesn't think that her body-- which she already doesn't have much pride in-- is all she has to give".

Still, the move managed to shake Shou. If Fujieda doesn't acknowledge loss, I suspect she could be rather formidable. It also occurs to me that Fujieda's efforts are fundamentally competition, but feel like "attempting to steal" considering Shou's present (though destabilized) devotion to Sensei.

Now, I wonder how-- and how long-- this can be played out before establishing the conclusions would be ideal.

*I'm aware this situation would be a hot mess in real life-- it's a rom-com-drama, so I'm not obliged to think that way and it's probably counterproductive to grasping the point of the events at hand.

Mhmmmm ok… there’s a lot to unpack here
Good thing Fujieda's pretty quick at unpacking.
 
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Well...that was something.

So what happened was she confessed, he rejected her, she decided to go tits out (literally) as a final act of desperation, and his immediate response was to bolt on her. Later, he's shown to get a boner from her, despite thinking that he can only love Sensei.

Well first, her actions were very questionable, but it's not like I can't see where she's coming from. Shame it didn't do her no favors, however, and at worst she can be seen as committing sexual assault. But I very much doubt the story'll go that direction, and instead will just make everything awkward between them down the line. It can be seen as dumb teenage actions, really.

Second, this proves that despite his convictions towards only being in love with Sensei, the dude's still only 18, and let's be honest, nobody has their whole life and future set in stone by that age, especially when it comes to romance and lust. His mind says Sensei, his body says otherwise. This'll no doubt start making him think about how he actually feels towards her and what he'll want to do.
 
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I feel like our MC though just made his feelings clear to her
I agree so too, but there is something about the way these rejections are presented; where one is ignored and the other is supposed to be reasonably accepted... seems like it's trying to critique it - or it's an odd hypocritical blind spot in the writing.

well look at the new cover
And that means their relationship will definitely work out?
 
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Gosh this chapter is very uncomfortable to read. Its really sad to see her being that desperate :((((

Anywho, Thanks as always for the sl!
 
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Humiliating? Flip the genders. Imagine if a FMC was in love with someone else, and some side character guy wouldn't take no for an answer, and pulled out is his junk in front of her to convince her to date him. Would you think him humiliated and feel sorry for him in that circumstance if he was still rejected?
Well for starters she didn't show him genitals so it is different.
 
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While I feel sorry for her, she is 100% in the wrong...

She shouldn't have done what she did.... if she just tried to get with him normally, I wouldn't mind her...

But this is too far....
 
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There seems to be an equation of Fujieda's efforts to Shou's efforts, as if they're effectively the same but with different targets. Myself, I'm unconvinced.

Shou rejects Fujieda because he sees her as a friend, and-- prior to that-- because he already had someone he liked. He indeed sees her as a friend, and indeed has someone else he likes. Shou rejects Fujieda on normally incontrovertible realities (those could change, but she shouldn't bet on it and so hold herself back).

In contrast, Sensei rejects(?) Shou on falsehoods, remediable matters, and her own lack of self-esteem. She says Shou's a child, but he literally is not. Then she claims he doesn't understand the gravity of marriage and being a full member of society, but he's already on his way to doing just that. Then she brings up that they should date before marriage-- so, now the proposition is something like "if you get a job and become a member of society, then maybe...". But then, she goes on about her supposed lack of worth-- which, Shou clearly disagrees.

None of this is an "I don't feel the same way". Her physical reactions and lingerings aren't the product of "I don't feel the same way".

That's presumably the reason why Shou is still trying to woo her-- he decided, before reuniting with her, that he'd give up on her if she didn't like him, but she's clearly wavering.

Though... I guess Fujieda also thinks Shou rejected her on a falsehood, even if he wasn't lying.

Humiliating? Flip the genders.
I think it's better to evaluate the situation for what it is (a desperate person acting out in extreme and willing vulnerability) and acknowledge that we regardless view it differently because of the sex of the involved parties, rather than suppose that men and women are interchangeable enough for such a hypothetical to be reasonable. If they were, you wouldn't need to make this hypothetical.

Also, we should acknowledge that this is fiction (and part-drama), and that we can only apply reality so much until the point is lost. We should at least recognize what's intended-- regardless of the sex of the character at hand-- while also acknowledging whether or not-- and why-- we actually feel that.

The guy is 18 and he is freaking out after poping a boner. His obsession with the teacher has not been good for his psyche
It's a matter of fidelity, for him. He probably has a very idealistic conception of love, where he ties sexual attraction and romantic affection together despite himself, and is facilitated in doing so because of his one-track mind. This is the first time he's had to contemplate his sexual attraction and romantic affection separately, and he's freaking out over that.

Interesting thing to note is that he realized what she said to him is the same thing he said to Sensei. Food for thought.
What she said to him isn't what he said to Sensei. What he's remembering is his statement of single-track devotion to Sensei, that's now being seemingly contradicted by his present erection.
 
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There seems to be an equation of Fujieda's efforts to Shou's efforts, as if they're effectively the same but with different targets. Myself, I'm unconvinced.

Shou rejects Fujieda because he sees her as a friend, and-- prior to that-- because he already had someone he liked. He indeed sees her as a friend, and indeed has someone else he likes. Shou rejects Fujieda on normally incontrovertible realities (those could change, but she shouldn't bet on it and so hold herself back).

In contrast, Sensei rejects(?) Shou on falsehoods, remediable matters, and her own lack of self-esteem. She says Shou's a child, but he literally is not. Then she claims he doesn't understand the gravity of marriage and being a full member of society, but he's already on his way to doing just that. Then she brings up that they should date before marriage-- so, now the proposition is something like "if you get a job and become a member of society, then maybe...". But then, she goes on about her supposed lack of worth-- which, Shou clearly disagrees.

None of this is an "I don't feel the same way". Her physical reactions and lingerings aren't the product of "I don't feel the same way".

That's presumably the reason why Shou is still trying to woo her-- he decided, before reuniting with her, that he'd give up on her if she didn't like him, but she's clearly wavering.

Though... I guess Fujieda also thinks Shou rejected her on a falsehood, even if he wasn't lying.


I think it's better to evaluate the situation for what it is (a desperate person acting out in extreme and willing vulnerability) and acknowledge that we regardless view it differently because of the sex of the involved parties, rather than suppose that men and women are interchangeable enough for such a hypothetical to be reasonable. If they were, you wouldn't need to make this hypothetical.


It's a matter of fidelity, for him. He probably has a very idealistic conception of love, where he ties sexual attraction and romantic affection together despite himself, and is facilitated in doing so because of his one-track mind. This is the first time he's had to contemplate his sexual attraction and romantic affection separately, and he freaking out over that.


What she said to him isn't what he said to Sensei. What he's remembering is his statement of single-track devotion to Sensei, that's now being seemingly contradicted by his present erection.
While I disagree with the idea that we should view her actions any differently than if a guy exposed himself to a girl who rejected him, I agree with the rest of your statement. It's clearly obvious to everyone, the reader, Shou, and Sensei, that she's obviously attracted to him and making up excuses to not move forward. It's very very different from a clear "no, I only see you as a friend" "I have someone else I love". He even explicitly states that he would move on if she found someone else that she loved and made her happy.

They are not equitable at all, you'd have to be completely blind to the nuances of their situations to believe that.
 

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