Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 40 - Gears Setting Chaos In Motion

[sbhshdbdvdbdh]

She may have been clued in that he likes her romantically? Which could've maybe caused her to see him in a different light - unknown, Yuu just decided for her that it's a lost cause. Which running theme of this manga - making decisions for other folks instead of talking to them is bad.

Currently the only proactive attempt by Yuu to clue Hikari in on his feelings that the reader knows about is the confession. Maybe we'll get that 1st heartbreak story eventually and it'll show others.

Dating the girls she sets him up w/ is a very strong sign he doesn't care at all.

The excerpt you quoted says he hung out w/ those girls a few times & was then awkward. His behavior could very much just be read as he didn't have chemistry with that specific girl, especially given he keeps saying yes to the set ups. The way to make it clear he's not into it is to say no to the setups altogether.



Saying she hates liars to force a conversation instead of swallowing it?

Like I fully agree not the best method and she probably should have either held fast to going home and sorted through her feelings or fully told him what she'd seen.


Yes? Like the reason Hikari rejects the confession is b/c she doesn't want to start a romantic relationship w/ Yuu off on toxic grounds and the reason that she is so hurt here is b/c this upends what she thought her relationships with Yuu and Aya were.



Reads to me likes she's expressing frustration at them/the situation. Like none of the facial expressions here to me read like she's angry at Yuu over this:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/55c183ae-01e9-4fdb-9bb9-e3c77f894f6f/3

Especially since throughout this scene, she's also playing cheerleader - telling Yuu she likes him and that he shouldn't be so down on himself.

i’m sorry but i sincerely doubt that even if he didn’t date the girls she would’ve got the hint at all and probably just seen it as him being shy or something

 

[wozbond]

But suggesting he is tired of girls pushing him around because damn bitches when nothing like that happened is not being biased, I suppose.

Hikari screamed at him for being oblivious, after years of being oblivious herself. Keep pretending there's nothing at all wrong with that.

 

[GennArc]

She may have been clued in that he likes her romantically? Which could've maybe caused her to see him in a different light - unknown, Yuu just decided for her that it's a lost cause.

I mean, starting to like the person because they like you is not impossible, but when she says herself she didn't see him as a boy at all, that's pretty much it for his chances. And I said this many times, but it's usually easy to tell when the person isn't interested in you at all.

Dating the girls she sets him up w/ is a very strong sign he doesn't care at all.

I meant the 2nd year HS him, when Hikari is already in love with him.

His behavior could very much just be read as he didn't have chemistry with that specific girl

With that girl, and with that other girl, and with anyone else. I don't know why we're discussing this when even their previous school classmates, whom Hikari describes as "this random couple from our middle-school days, not exactly friends of ours", knew he liked her. The picture is pretty clear, even though he never confessed, she was the only one oblivious about it.

 

[mug3n]

Hikari screamed at him for being oblivious, after years of being oblivious herself. Keep pretending there's nothing at all wrong with that.

Being an oblivious dumdum is worse than actively ignoring her being distant and concerned about something during the moment you plan to declare to her is what you are saying. And I find that nuts and is nowhere near to being "unbiased" or whatever you think it is.

 

[wozbond]

Being an oblivious dumdum is worse than actively ignoring her being distant and concerned about something during the moment you plan to declare to her is what you are saying. And I find that nuts and is nowhere near to being "unbiased" or whatever you think it is.

I'm happy to acknowledge that the things Yuu did wrong are worse than the things Hikari did wrong. But arguing that Hikari hasn't done ANYTHING WRONG AT ALL is asinine.

 

[story645]

i’m sorry but i sincerely doubt that even if he didn’t date the girls she would’ve got the hint at all and probably just seen it as him being shy or something

Very probably. Legit the only reason I even mentioned it is that folks hammer Hikari for setting Yuu up on dates as if she'd done something horribly wrong when Yuu's actions in context would have given her the impression that she was doing him a favor.

when even their previous school classmates, whom Hikari describes as "this random couple from our middle-school days, not exactly friends of ours", knew he liked her.

Yuu says that Hikari has a pretty strange sense of distance and that's why Yuu felt like he was getting mixed signals about her liking him when she was proactive about it. It would 100% factor into her being oblivious about his feelings, especially if he didn't do anything proactive.

ETA: which yes relitaging middle school Hikari/Yuu is not a path we wanna go down but also Hikari's thoughts on accepting Yuu if he'd confessed in middle school are very explicitly maybe/probably and not definitely. I think this is cause the author wants the open question of "should Yuu have confessed in middle school?"

 

[GennArc]

also Hikari's thoughts on accepting Yuu if he'd confessed in middle school are very explicitly maybe/probably

Her other thoughts are also explicitly "I didn't see him as a boy at all". She even goes and asks "why did I end up liking a guy like him". So I think the picture is very clear. Also her starting to notice him in a romantic way coinciding with certain events in his life show the author's intent much stronger than anything else.

 

[story645]

Also her starting to notice him in a romantic way coinciding with certain events in his life show the author's intent much stronger than anything else.

Ya know those events could've been Yuu getting his act together and studying for the exam right? Since we have her whole thought process there commenting on him being serious for a change? And Yuu wouldn't have picked up on it b/c he was convinced it was impossible and wary of mixed signals. Like she only tells Aya "recently", and what is recently in the span of a 10 year friendship.

 

[story645]

"why did I end up liking a guy like him".

Half the commentators on this manga are asking the same question.

 

[GennArc]

Ya know those events could've been Yuu getting his act together and studying for the exam right?

Ch. 9:

...But then again, that's how it always was between us back then. He really was just like a little brother to me.

All the way through middle school -- no, actually, until just a year ago -- I never saw him as a boy. He was just my pure and simple childhood friend, nothing more.

Hikari: "Why did I end up... liking a guy like him? Pfft... haha!"

says Hikari in the middle of her second year of HS.

 

[EstePenco]

Los que odian a Yuu están en ruinas ahora que se ha demostrado su inocencia. Espero que le pidan disculpas.

Truuuuuuuuu

 

[EstePenco]

Thx for the TL!


Nah fuck him still. Nothing has changed
Hikari deserves so much better than him
He and yami (even tho i do sympathize with her terrible home life) can go FUCK THEMSELVES






couple hours later edit


so i wanted to read some of these comments and then do a quick reread of the entire manga just in case i forgot anything major.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but i want to make my reasons clear for why I don't like Yuu. to start, Yami is worse than yuu, im just giving some reasonings on why i dislike yuu and why he doesn't derserve hikari. The reason why I dislike Yuu is because he is unwilling to confront the truth for hikari. To start off, I decided to do another reread of the manga, and its very clear that early on, yuu always was thinking of yami post breakup. To start, chapter 12, now knowing the majority of the timeline (unless we got yuu's pov from that far back), its clear that yuu was refering to yami, not hikari. We just assumed it was hikari bc we didn't know the history yet. Also side note, on page 2, Yuu admits that he went on a date with pigtail girl, so i don't believe he always loved hikari since childhood (actually idk if he said he loves hikari since childhood or since start of highschool so i could be wrong). And yes, she asked him, but that doesn't excuse anything, he still choose to go on a date.

Chapter 16, pages 2-4, now knowing the history (aka the middle school arc between yuu and yami), its clear that the reason why yuu wanted to shift the conversation and having that forced smile was bc he didn't want to reveal that he was in a relationship prior to his feelings. if you reread the chapter, its clear that yuu never quickly denies the dating rumors, its cus he was dating, he wasn't dating hikari though. he didn't want to reveal to them that he was in a prior relationship.

side note for chapter 17, i think a lot of people are misinterpretating what hikari says about if yuu confessed when they were younger. the exact line from page 5 is "If he told me he liked me at that time.......... For me back then, who's never even had the idea of love cross her mind, maybe I would have turned him down" The key word is maybe, she wouldn't have known if she would reject his feelings or not. She only thought of him as a childhood friend when they were younger, she wasn't expecting him to confess his feelings to her, so she wouldn't know how to react. She's not outright rejecting, she just was unsure.

chapter 19, it is clear that the reason why Yuu didn't originally want to go to the festival was because he knew yami was there. he didn't want to confront her. In this chapter, chapter 40 page 15, yami yells at yuu that he knew she went to the same school for over a year didn't he. I disagree to the argument that yuu wanted to get closure, he didn't want closure, he had to confront yami before confessing to hikari. He didn't want to go to the festival bc he was worried that he and hikari was gonna run into yami and their relationship was gonna get revealed. He only went bc hikari was begging and looked upset that he rejected her. if he really cared about closure and making hikari his #1 priority, he could've just left when he said bye, but he chose to stay. if he really wanted closure, he has a year to meet yami to end it.

with those reminders and my interpretations of those chapters, the reason why I very much dislike Yuu is because he was not going to tell hikari the truth about his relationship with yami. He did not want to tell her, he wanted to avoid yami while trying to get closer to hikari. with the last 3 chapters. as a reminder chapter 40 takes place right before the confession, 38-39. on page4 of ch40, he gets 100% confirmation that yami and hikari are very close friends. this is the key part of why i dislike him, sorry for repeating alot. he confesses to hikari without ever telling her about their relationship. that is complete bs for him to act like he really loved hikari but not tell her about his past. TO BE CLEAR, I don't have a problem with him having past relationships, everyone is allowed a past. The problem is that because he and yami are so revelant to hikari's current friendships and bonds, it is so disrespectful that he never tells her about his past with yami. we see in chapter 38-39, he had no plans of telling her about yami. he just want to get with hikari without thinking of telling her the truth. if it wasn't for hikari seeing them kiss, she would've been lied too. and yes, yami forced a kiss on yuu, BUT yuu never told her about to kiss (aka the i hate liars in the end of ch39). I also find it dumb that yuu clearly thinks he can just date hikari and not ever run into yami when he knows that they are best friends. TBC again, all of this also applies to ayami, i think she is worse, im just talking about yuu. and before anyone says, lets says next chapter before hikari says another word, yuu confesses about ayami, that doesn't change anything, he wanted to get her to go out with him before telling the truth, nothing would have changed.

Yuu said he loves hikari for a long time, but clearly didn't respect her enough to be honest with her.

TO REITERATE, i don't have a problem with yuu having a prior relationship with ayami, i'm upset that he never choose to tell hikari the truth about him and yami past relationship at any point. there has truth and respect in a relationship, but yuu wanted to avoid and lie, so I do not like him, hikari deserves so much better,

Pido disculpas por el desvarío, solo quería dar mis razones de por qué no me gusta. Si no estás de acuerdo conmigo, me alegro por ti. No estoy aquí para hacerle cambiar de opinión a nadie. Al final del día, todos podemos estar de acuerdo en estar en desacuerdo. Si lees todo esto, gracias y me disculpo

Thx for the TL!


Nah fuck him still. Nothing has changed
Hikari deserves so much better than him
He and yami (even tho i do sympathize with her terrible home life) can go FUCK THEMSELVES






couple hours later edit


so i wanted to read some of these comments and then do a quick reread of the entire manga just in case i forgot anything major.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but i want to make my reasons clear for why I don't like Yuu. to start, Yami is worse than yuu, im just giving some reasonings on why i dislike yuu and why he doesn't derserve hikari. The reason why I dislike Yuu is because he is unwilling to confront the truth for hikari. To start off, I decided to do another reread of the manga, and its very clear that early on, yuu always was thinking of yami post breakup. To start, chapter 12, now knowing the majority of the timeline (unless we got yuu's pov from that far back), its clear that yuu was refering to yami, not hikari. We just assumed it was hikari bc we didn't know the history yet. Also side note, on page 2, Yuu admits that he went on a date with pigtail girl, so i don't believe he always loved hikari since childhood (actually idk if he said he loves hikari since childhood or since start of highschool so i could be wrong). And yes, she asked him, but that doesn't excuse anything, he still choose to go on a date.

Chapter 16, pages 2-4, now knowing the history (aka the middle school arc between yuu and yami), its clear that the reason why yuu wanted to shift the conversation and having that forced smile was bc he didn't want to reveal that he was in a relationship prior to his feelings. if you reread the chapter, its clear that yuu never quickly denies the dating rumors, its cus he was dating, he wasn't dating hikari though. he didn't want to reveal to them that he was in a prior relationship.

side note for chapter 17, i think a lot of people are misinterpretating what hikari says about if yuu confessed when they were younger. the exact line from page 5 is "If he told me he liked me at that time.......... For me back then, who's never even had the idea of love cross her mind, maybe I would have turned him down" The key word is maybe, she wouldn't have known if she would reject his feelings or not. She only thought of him as a childhood friend when they were younger, she wasn't expecting him to confess his feelings to her, so she wouldn't know how to react. She's not outright rejecting, she just was unsure.

chapter 19, it is clear that the reason why Yuu didn't originally want to go to the festival was because he knew yami was there. he didn't want to confront her. In this chapter, chapter 40 page 15, yami yells at yuu that he knew she went to the same school for over a year didn't he. I disagree to the argument that yuu wanted to get closure, he didn't want closure, he had to confront yami before confessing to hikari. He didn't want to go to the festival bc he was worried that he and hikari was gonna run into yami and their relationship was gonna get revealed. He only went bc hikari was begging and looked upset that he rejected her. if he really cared about closure and making hikari his #1 priority, he could've just left when he said bye, but he chose to stay. if he really wanted closure, he has a year to meet yami to end it.

with those reminders and my interpretations of those chapters, the reason why I very much dislike Yuu is because he was not going to tell hikari the truth about his relationship with yami. He did not want to tell her, he wanted to avoid yami while trying to get closer to hikari. with the last 3 chapters. as a reminder chapter 40 takes place right before the confession, 38-39. on page4 of ch40, he gets 100% confirmation that yami and hikari are very close friends. this is the key part of why i dislike him, sorry for repeating alot. he confesses to hikari without ever telling her about their relationship. that is complete bs for him to act like he really loved hikari but not tell her about his past. TO BE CLEAR, I don't have a problem with him having past relationships, everyone is allowed a past. The problem is that because he and yami are so revelant to hikari's current friendships and bonds, it is so disrespectful that he never tells her about his past with yami. we see in chapter 38-39, he had no plans of telling her about yami. he just want to get with hikari without thinking of telling her the truth. if it wasn't for hikari seeing them kiss, she would've been lied too. and yes, yami forced a kiss on yuu, BUT yuu never told her about to kiss (aka the i hate liars in the end of ch39). I also find it dumb that yuu clearly thinks he can just date hikari and not ever run into yami when he knows that they are best friends. TBC again, all of this also applies to ayami, i think she is worse, im just talking about yuu. and before anyone says, lets says next chapter before hikari says another word, yuu confesses about ayami, that doesn't change anything, he wanted to get her to go out with him before telling the truth, nothing would have changed.

Yuu said he loves hikari for a long time, but clearly didn't respect her enough to be honest with her.

TO REITERATE, i don't have a problem with yuu having a prior relationship with ayami, i'm upset that he never choose to tell hikari the truth about him and yami past relationship at any point. there has truth and respect in a relationship, but yuu wanted to avoid and lie, so I do not like him, hikari deserves so much better,

my apologizes for the ranting, i just wanted to give my reasoninings why i don't like him. If you disagree with me, i am happy for you. I am not here to change anyone's mind. at the end of the day we can all just agree to disagree. If you read all this, thank you and apologizes for any misspellings.

Bro, honestly, you're being super biased and making up a ton of assumptions you don't even know, all just to justify your hate for someone who fell in love with a person he broke up with and has been moving on from for a year.


I don’t know if you’re a virgin or have never had a partner, but it’s completely normal — throughout life, you meet people you love deeply, and when it ends, you have to deal with getting over them. But that doesn’t mean you can’t meet new people. In his case, with the clear interest shown by his childhood friend, it’s perfectly normal that he started being interested in her again.


Also, I completely disagree with you. He’s a great person. He never took advantage of Hikari, he always treated her respectfully and kindly.


Getting to know someone is complex — I say this from personal experience. One of my exes was a friend first while I was in another relationship. Back then, I wasn’t interested in her, but when I was single again, for various reasons, we connected during a group hangout and started getting to know each other. I don’t think that makes me or her bad people just because we had exes.


It’s completely normal throughout life to meet several people and keep meeting new ones, as long as it's with respect, love, and fidelity — which Yuu has shown, in my opinion. Of course, he should clarify things with Hikari, but he hasn’t done anything wrong. It’ll be up to Hikari to decide whether she can understand the situation and whether it affects her or not, and if she doesn’t feel comfortable and wants to end things, that’s also okay — mental health comes first.
or cualquier error ortográfico.Hermano

 

[HeyJudas]

Yami left him though. She ghosted and then later blocked him. This all happened before Hikari had any romantic feelings for Yuu.

Yuu should be more responsible tho like you had sex with her LITERALLY

 

[andy106]

Thx for the TL!


Nah fuck him still. Nothing has changed
Hikari deserves so much better than him
He and yami (even tho i do sympathize with her terrible home life) can go FUCK THEMSELVES






couple hours later edit


so i wanted to read some of these comments and then do a quick reread of the entire manga just in case i forgot anything major.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but i want to make my reasons clear for why I don't like Yuu. to start, Yami is worse than yuu, im just giving some reasonings on why i dislike yuu and why he doesn't derserve hikari. The reason why I dislike Yuu is because he is unwilling to confront the truth for hikari. To start off, I decided to do another reread of the manga, and its very clear that early on, yuu always was thinking of yami post breakup. To start, chapter 12, now knowing the majority of the timeline (unless we got yuu's pov from that far back), its clear that yuu was refering to yami, not hikari. We just assumed it was hikari bc we didn't know the history yet. Also side note, on page 2, Yuu admits that he went on a date with pigtail girl, so i don't believe he always loved hikari since childhood (actually idk if he said he loves hikari since childhood or since start of highschool so i could be wrong). And yes, she asked him, but that doesn't excuse anything, he still choose to go on a date.

Chapter 16, pages 2-4, now knowing the history (aka the middle school arc between yuu and yami), its clear that the reason why yuu wanted to shift the conversation and having that forced smile was bc he didn't want to reveal that he was in a relationship prior to his feelings. if you reread the chapter, its clear that yuu never quickly denies the dating rumors, its cus he was dating, he wasn't dating hikari though. he didn't want to reveal to them that he was in a prior relationship.

side note for chapter 17, i think a lot of people are misinterpretating what hikari says about if yuu confessed when they were younger. the exact line from page 5 is "If he told me he liked me at that time.......... For me back then, who's never even had the idea of love cross her mind, maybe I would have turned him down" The key word is maybe, she wouldn't have known if she would reject his feelings or not. She only thought of him as a childhood friend when they were younger, she wasn't expecting him to confess his feelings to her, so she wouldn't know how to react. She's not outright rejecting, she just was unsure.

chapter 19, it is clear that the reason why Yuu didn't originally want to go to the festival was because he knew yami was there. he didn't want to confront her. In this chapter, chapter 40 page 15, yami yells at yuu that he knew she went to the same school for over a year didn't he. I disagree to the argument that yuu wanted to get closure, he didn't want closure, he had to confront yami before confessing to hikari. He didn't want to go to the festival bc he was worried that he and hikari was gonna run into yami and their relationship was gonna get revealed. He only went bc hikari was begging and looked upset that he rejected her. if he really cared about closure and making hikari his #1 priority, he could've just left when he said bye, but he chose to stay. if he really wanted closure, he has a year to meet yami to end it.

with those reminders and my interpretations of those chapters, the reason why I very much dislike Yuu is because he was not going to tell hikari the truth about his relationship with yami. He did not want to tell her, he wanted to avoid yami while trying to get closer to hikari. with the last 3 chapters. as a reminder chapter 40 takes place right before the confession, 38-39. on page4 of ch40, he gets 100% confirmation that yami and hikari are very close friends. this is the key part of why i dislike him, sorry for repeating alot. he confesses to hikari without ever telling her about their relationship. that is complete bs for him to act like he really loved hikari but not tell her about his past. TO BE CLEAR, I don't have a problem with him having past relationships, everyone is allowed a past. The problem is that because he and yami are so revelant to hikari's current friendships and bonds, it is so disrespectful that he never tells her about his past with yami. we see in chapter 38-39, he had no plans of telling her about yami. he just want to get with hikari without thinking of telling her the truth. if it wasn't for hikari seeing them kiss, she would've been lied too. and yes, yami forced a kiss on yuu, BUT yuu never told her about to kiss (aka the i hate liars in the end of ch39). I also find it dumb that yuu clearly thinks he can just date hikari and not ever run into yami when he knows that they are best friends. TBC again, all of this also applies to ayami, i think she is worse, im just talking about yuu. and before anyone says, lets says next chapter before hikari says another word, yuu confesses about ayami, that doesn't change anything, he wanted to get her to go out with him before telling the truth, nothing would have changed.

Yuu said he loves hikari for a long time, but clearly didn't respect her enough to be honest with her.

TO REITERATE, i don't have a problem with yuu having a prior relationship with ayami, i'm upset that he never choose to tell hikari the truth about him and yami past relationship at any point. there has truth and respect in a relationship, but yuu wanted to avoid and lie, so I do not like him, hikari deserves so much better,

my apologizes for the ranting, i just wanted to give my reasoninings why i don't like him. If you disagree with me, i am happy for you. I am not here to change anyone's mind. at the end of the day we can all just agree to disagree. If you read all this, thank you and apologizes for any misspellings.

“How dare he have other girlfriends before hikari and not broadcast it to her” — literally you

 

[Burner5]

Yuu should be more responsible tho like you had sex with her LITERALLY

He tried to do just that. I don't know what you want from him. It is implied he didn't know where she lived and it is implied during this time they were on holiday so he probably couldn't go to her school. He was messaging her daily. Hell, it's heavily implied he was constantly checking his phone to see if she responded considering he immediately texted her as soon as she opened his texts.

 

[GennArc]

Yuu should be more responsible tho like you had sex with her LITERALLY

This is definitely not the case of him being irresponsible. He was worried, he asked if he did something wrong, he was messaging her a lot. Yami thinks herself that she was the only one in the wrong and he wasn't responsible for any of it.
It's not a matter of responsibility, it's a matter of how much he was ready to do, how important it was to him. She wanted him to be as crazy about her as she was about him. Which is still unreasonable because people express their love in different ways. It's just that, on the other hand, love is not about being reasonable.

 

[Beezy]

I come to read some comments on this thread and it really truly amazes me how people are trying to find some angle to lay the responsibility on the person who got ghosted. And its not like he didnt try. The girl ended up blocking him too. Anyone with a sliver of common sense would take that as a hint as the person wanting nothing to do with you.

 

[story645]

Anyone with a sliver of common sense would take that as a hint as the person wanting nothing to do with you.

I don't think Yuu is in the wrong for not chasing Aya, but I think this comes down to Yuu just not understanding Aya all that well. Which admittedly both their faults - she didn't say anything (directly) and he didn't ask (directly).

ETA: I think it's kinda loosely related to ask vs guess culture, which I also think factors into how folks evaluate the characters actions.

 

[Fari]

She's a mess but god damn, these commenters have never been through it? I find her pretty relatable, when you're deep in the despair ending up like this isn't hard at all...

She was in the wrong for this festival outburst, but it's still understandable.

Everything she did before that was totally fair game, just because someone likes someone else but isn't in a relationship doesn't make them off limits if you can change their mind lol. She sabotaged herself in the end, repeatedly, but humans aren't always rational.

Wish I couldn't say she's pretty relatable, but some of it is.

 

[robopiplup07]

Wish I couldn't say she's pretty relatable, but some of it is.

As vast and deep as my dislike for Yuu and Yami is, it's not for a lack of empathy. I can see why they are the way they are, I just don't feel like seeing Hikari get dragged into the insanity. Both Yuu and Yami are very careless toward her feelings despite whatever respective reasons they're drawn to her, and the best thing Hikari can do at this point is excise the both of them from her life like malignant tumors.