Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita

[cloaker07]

how da fuck did this gotten so heated

 

[HippoPilot]

I'm a fucking idiot for not checking the ratings first but it was literally an entire volume 21+ chapters baiting you on. If you're going to do this shit you do it at least midway through a volume and not at the end, that's literally scamming the readers. Fuck this author, the artist and defenders of this shit.

 

[HippoPilot]

There's a pretty evil bait-and-switch. After said switch it's pretty good, but mainly people are complaining about just the COMPLETE lack of foreshadowing. Absolutely 0 warning, so people who just wanted a comfy romance were kicked in the gut out of basically nowhere

Any actual allusion was at a level no one was assuming it'd be this bad, it's indefensible. This is far worse than "we dated briefly and broke up" it's "oh, we went balls deep over and over during our summer getaway btw" with some retarded "woe is me I'm such a tragic ice queen". Completely unrealistic Japanese middle school grads would act like this, they have a fucking birthrate decline.

 

[wanderslvt]

Any actual allusion was at a level no one was assuming it'd be this bad, it's indefensible. This is far worse than "we dated briefly and broke up" it's "oh, we went balls deep over and over during our summer getaway btw" with some retarded "woe is me I'm such a tragic ice queen". Completely unrealistic Japanese middle school grads would act like this, they have a fucking birthrate decline.

Actually irresponsible relationships (that lead to conception) lead to abortions or low fertility (they stop at one kid and never reproduce ever again)

 

[wanderslvt]

Getting baited like that felt like getting baited by ntr, I'm forever trusting in the low ratings now lmao not taking the risk anymore after that little cuck show of a chapter( chap 20 ). Could've be a nice wholesome one but 180 into bland flashback drama sighhhh probably still gonna checkout the ending lmao but hopefully childhood girl finds a different romantic interest after seeing that mann, poor girl.

Yeah basically it should be over then because the male lead is clearly not worth her feelings. A proper ending (or development?) should be her giving up on him and telling him to fuck off and then find some upstanding dude to heal with. On my end there would be bonus points if the male lead gets cucked by Aya afterwards so he learns his lesson.

 

[wanderslvt]

i really need to blow off some steam and you, potential readers, better pay attention.

if the author is a clueless, socially inept, pretentious prick, he'd definitely end this story with a happy ending. yuu could end up with either one or with no one but the ending would definitely be positive.

his main idea would be: a story that tells the readers to accept both the joy and the abyss. pretty much a mahler 4. pfft! as if!

probably he thought that it's avant garde to mix two genres in the same story. hence, the two archetypical female protagonists along with the typical plots, tropes & vibes that accompany them. in high contrast.

we could extend the idea above to the author preaching: "the readers shouldn't stick to one genre because life ain't that way. stop enjoying your comfort zone. you don't have the right to dwell in any escapism of your own choice.".

but, this ain't a mahler 4 that tells the paradox of an elusive, childishly innocent, heavenly life and the abysmal dark nebulas just around the corner.

this is simply the world through the lens of an edgy pretentious japanese dude. why? because life itself ain't as black and white as what he'd told us through his story.

his characters are archetypes that he used as vehicles to deliver his message to us. hence, we got the dark character with her assortment of bad luck and the light character with all her sunshines & rainbows. do take note that these archetypes are archetypes in fictions, not in real life.

i mean, just think: what are the odds that things in this story truly happen to a character, let alone to a real person? have you met real japanese dudes or girls? they certainly ain't yuu, yami, or hikari. like, seriously.

just go to grad school in good universities in japan, e.g. kyodai, todai, hokudai, waseda, etc., you'll see real sheltered urban young japanese people there.

some are timid/awkward, while some others are pretentious as f*ck. most are generally good natured, though some can be quite ignorant to worldviews outside their own culture. well.. typical homogeneous society.

hence, this story is 100% engineered/designed.

bruh, the set up was quite obvious. i was not pissed because i felt like i got stabbed out of nowhere. i felt pissed because i actually could see the intent and the set up. i simply think that it's freaking patronizing, pretentious, arrogant but naive & clueless at the same time.

just take a look at the title. also, take a look at some of the chapter titles, e.g. "worst morning in history" & "gloomy, doomy". i mean it's quite obvious that those titles were written in retrospect. also, the tone of some of the drawings have some hints of darkness in hikari's chapters.

those are the clues, foreshadowing, or whatever.

the uber cheery hikari is one of the setup. also, yami's background stories & details that are just way too much & way too textbook. plus, the fact that yuu had changed after meeting yami and then as a consequence hikari suddenly got interested in yuu.

after hikari's & yami's, there's a high probability that we will get yuu's chapters later on. chapters that would justify him, yami & the plot. perhaps we would also get some "negative" details on hikari that could balance the situation later.

all of those sh*ts above are artificial constructs to convey a message and prove a point. it's because i noticed all that that i got so freaking annoyed with this manga.

because everything felt so intentional & constructed. too transparent & too blatant. it's like the author is openly preaching his ideals in an agora. just like socrates, plato & aristotle. pfft!

so, instead of empathizing with the characters & the story, you should see this story as an attempt to enlighten you, to criticize you, or maybe even to mock you.

he's not trying to give you a show (a morning k-drama or a sh*tty generic j-dorama). he's trying to invade you with his ideals.

knowing all that, you should judge the author and his story through the message that he wants to tell and through his execution of it. is his message truly that original? not really. is it well executed? i don't think so.

the messages in frieren can be quite naive & too optimistic sometimes but there's certainly a reason why frieren is so well regarded despite the blatant moralizing & preaching.

i could easily end this story in an idealistic japanese dude kind of way: turbulent storms followed by angst & melodramas, slow burn reconciliations, do-over friendships & relationships while still acknowledging everything that has happened, all characters become ubermensch, happy ending! pfft.

but, seriously, trust me that if this manga & the novel wouldn't get cancelled, there's a high probability that the plot would be a melodrama about overcoming all the sh*ts that had happened in order to reach that "ideal" happy ending.

also, f*ck the yuri baiting. this is one of the reasons why you can't simply mix two genres. you can't have romcom tropes, e.g. the semi-ecchi joke, the fluff & the mild yuri baiting, if you want this story to be taken seriously. this is one of the reasons why i truly loathe this manga.

you want to preach & deliver some serious stuff and yet you still decide to include all those banal romcom tropes. what f*cking a joke.

to be completely honest, what really irks me is the fact that i could just "torture" myself with re-reading war & peace or re-watching the human condition if i want some good preaching.

it really annoys me that this stuff is being sold as a commercial product. now i really want to see their sales forecast & reports. i also want to see the proposal that the author/editor gave to their superiors.

judging by the number of likes/favorites in the original source's website, it certainly fills a niche. though that small niche is dropping from 300+ to 200+. lately it's in the 100-200 range. if it goes to below 100 later then this story is certainly a bad business decision.

from now on, i really should just stick with "pure entertainment" when it comes to manga & anime. after reading, watching & knowing more stuff in life, my patience for edgy & patronizing authors is practically nonexistent.

i truly adore eva & lain and yet i can't endure this sh*tty manga lol

Your conclusion on consuming pure entertainment is very much telling of how done you are lol. I am too, utterly done lmao. Life already sucks man I don't need more baiting bullshit pulling down my mood, especially when it's just drama for the sake of drama with a side serving of edgy philosophy (that no one ever realistically applies anyway).

 

[HippoPilot]

Actually irresponsible relationships (that lead to conception) lead to abortions or low fertility (they stop at one kid and never reproduce ever again)

That's true actually I agree. I half wanted to make the joke and half arguing in the mind of fiction mindset

 

[GennArc]

Life already sucks man I don't need more baiting bullshit pulling down my mood, especially when it's just drama for the sake of drama with a side serving of edgy philosophy (that no one ever realistically applies anyway).

And yet you have Berserk of all things as your profile pic.

 

[HippoPilot]

Your conclusion on consuming pure entertainment is very much telling of how done you are lol. I am too, utterly done lmao. Life already sucks man I don't need more baiting bullshit pulling down my mood, especially when it's just drama for the sake of drama with a side serving of edgy philosophy (that no one ever realistically applies anyway).

Whenever I read a manga or manwha and there's some dramatic heelturn it's almost always followed by a boring reddit-tier philosophy rant. And pretty much always you can just not read it and nothing from the narrative is lost on you.

And yet you have Berserk of all things as your profile pic.

Berserk isn't bait, it establishes Griffith is an evil dick who did something unforgivable from the first arc and then the golden years show you.

 

[GennArc]

Berserk isn't bait, it establishes Griffith is an evil dick who did something unforgivable from the first arc and then the golden years show you.

That was not my point, but even then this manga establishes the conflict at the end of the first volume, same with Berserk setting up Griffith as an antagonist at the end of its' first (or zeroth) volume.
But the main point is the contradiction between complaining about manga showing some negative emotions, drama for the sake of drama and edgy philosophy, and having Berserk pfp at the same time.

 

[HippoPilot]

That was not my point, but even then this manga establishes the conflict at the end of the first volume, same with Berserk setting up Griffith as an antagonist at the end of its' first (or zeroth) volume.
But the main point is the contradiction between complaining about manga showing some negative emotions, drama for the sake of drama and edgy philosophy, and having Berserk pfp at the same time.

You're purposely choosing to ignore the actual point and don't know what Berserk is about.

 

[GennArc]

You're purposely choosing to ignore the actual point

I believe you were not the one making the point. I already said what I'm addressing, feel free to refute it.

don't know what Berserk is about

What gave you this idea?

 

[Crips_2008]

What do you guys think is the next move after chapter 37? This shit ass either way.

 

[ramens0ba]

currently at chapter 37 and it has been quite good. now all we are lacking is another 20 chapter backstory for yuu about the next few months after yami left him and the truth of the kissing scene, that'll flesh him out.
Yami and Yuu are not bad people (i think, but not yami forcing a kiss on yuu though), they're just people stuck in very unfortunate circumstances. all of them are unaware of what we know so readers gotta be understanding when it comes to these stuff.
+yuu hate is unjustified, the man is free to date who he wants since he never even thought that his childhood friend was interested in him and his perspective has never been shown
This story is volatile as hell, depending on how the author goes this can go from great to disappointing but I'll hold on to hope.

 

[noleafclover75]

currently at chapter 37 and it has been quite good. now all we are lacking is another 20 chapter backstory for yuu about the next few months after yami left him and the truth of the kissing scene, that'll flesh him out.
Yami and Yuu are not bad people (i think, but not yami forcing a kiss on yuu though), they're just people stuck in very unfortunate circumstances. all of them are unaware of what we know so readers gotta be understanding when it comes to these stuff.
+yuu hate is unjustified, the man is free to date who he wants since he never even thought that his childhood friend was interested in him and his perspective has never been shown
This story is volatile as hell, depending on how the author goes this can go from great to disappointing but I'll hold on to hope.

Yami is an awful person.

Their relationship started because she wanted to fuck the innocence out of someone to bring him down to her level. She constantly lied to him. She ghosted him.

The relationship with Hikari is even dumber as she tried to pawn her off to a pedophile in a dating app.

Tell me again how Yami is a "good person"

 

[din_sardin]

I didn't expect that kind of plot twist