Isekai Craft Gurashi ~Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life~ - Ch. 32

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On this I think Miyabi didn't even need permission to build it if he built it secretly both tunnel and entrance. Why do you need permission when you use it for yourself with your technology and your resources. He didn't need to share this project at all because he didn't build for improvement of economy. He just wants a way of fast travel for his friend. And that tunnel will never be discovered till someone really lucky stumps up on the entrance.
Bro ... do you really think it's going to be easy doing such a huge project secretly? Do you think trains are silent and easily concealable to the public? Also, don't you think they're going to question how Liz is able to get from her hometown to the academy in impossible record time back and forth? Furthermore, the land isn't his and MC was making sure that he had permission to do so since he's not sure of the legality of such things. He's actually sensible for thinking that, because in reality this is indeed an realistic issue in civilization. You can't just build such a huge transportation system anywhere you'd like, like this is some wild frontier where none of the land is claimed.
 
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The MC does need to ball up more, I'm glad our absolute cutie patootie Mel reminded him to stay strong in his convictions and speak up for himself. Most of the work would be accomplished by him, and it's pretty much impossible without him, he shouldn't be shy about claiming his ownership in the project. And the merchant lady has no right to threaten him and get confrontational with him when he tried to stake his ownership, her approval really isn't even needed for this if the duke didn't care to have her approval. Obviously, the duke wants to keep amicable, working relationships with important figureheads, but in terms of legality there really isn't a need for her approval for the project. The only real need they'd have for her is possibly for acquiring materials, which depending on how things go, they may not even need her help with that. And who the fuck cares about the production guild leader? MC didn't even ask for help with building it, he doesn't need the production guild to back him up on this project. I'm assuming the only real reason he's even there is because the duke doesn't want to sour relationships with him by not consulting him and what not about such a huge production type project matter, and the production guild leader feeling undermined by MC. And why is that old fuck getting pissy with him about how everyone was gathered here for this and that MC would back out like that? The MC never called for this meeting, the duke did, so if anything he's misdirecting his anger about that.
Also, what is the point of limiting the prototype to 3 months? Is there some fucking rush for this project where they don't have the time to concern themselves later if it takes longer than 3 months? It was too arbitrary without any real reason given behind it. Either this is bad writing, or the author will show why in future chapters.
 
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This is how real life operates. hes a layperson with good skills but no legal protection without the duke putting that "can use the thing whenever he wants " he would ultimately have no rights or say in how its used.

now in real life we do have some basic protections for the creators of an new invention but everyone there even the duke is perfectly willing to cut him out if hes gonna make it easy for them
I already said as much in the very first line of my post, so not sure what's the point of you trying to tell me something I made a statement about myself.
 
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Actually, it kinda does.

I can only talk from the programing side and government contracts but I assume it extends to everything.

you are given 3 months for a project, everyone around you tells you to take your time and just relax and do it, but the new hotshot decided they have no idea what they are talking about, they they don't want him showing them up, so he gets the project done in 2 weeks (note this isn't ballbusting work every waking hour work, this is normal 9-5) and submits it. he is congratulated, and has no work or pay for the next 2 and a half months, no bonus, just got completely screwed over because he finished ahead of schedule and there is no task for him to do till the next contract period.

in the games industry a veteran from the 90's asks a newbie to make a quick ai mockup to get things moving around, and is told it will take 3 weeks to maybe work, the veteran after trying to get this person to do it, does it himself (not his job but its a quick plug variable a into b) in an afternoon so he can get on to mocking up areas... the next day the newbie filed an hr complaint for harassment or something along those lines, and the vet had to be sat down and told how the industry works now (they were out of big studios for a while, they were returning to it after the smaller projects they were working on lost funding) and how you cant expect people to work that fast or some shit.

look at twitter and how before elon took over you had how many developers that showed off how they work 10 minutes a day and the rest is talking to friends and starbucks.

i'm not going to pretend that some things actually do take time and there is no doing it faster, but my god the amount of dicking around and padding time that happens in modern workforces is stupid. I have a friend who works as a machinist, he will get a project that may take 2 weeks of him constantly working on it, but it could be parted out to multiple people and machines if the buyer wants to expedite it, or that 2 week could become 2 months if the bureaucracy gets involved (he does some high end work that needs many people inspecting and signing off at all stages), there is a hell of alot of fat that can be cut to reduce time, along with working in parallel that can speed it up as well.
"If a mother can create a baby in 9 months, 2 mothers should be able to create a baby in 4.5 months."

People arent machines, some dicking around is needed as buffer when you have shitload of people working on the same project.
 
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I know a lot of you are hating on the Duke, but from my PoV Duke Beldini is always forcing the MC to do the things the MC really needs to do but is too Japanese to do on his own. Duke Beldini sees his potential and weaknesses and is always forcing Miyabi to step up, as Mee is. He has never been been outright evil or obstructive, just 'Okay, here's your next very harsh but fair test. Can you grow enough to pass it?' Because Miyabi is far too valuable to waste, and hey, could be son in law.

Just IMO!
 
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haurvatat23, don't look now, Utoon is trying to snipe this title.
ye saw that and honestly it's kinda funny that somebody paid someone to TL this when i'm doing it faster for free. lol it's their money to waste i suppose

but i did see that a lot of people in the comments for those were dunking spectacularly on snipers and it warms my shriveled little heart. i love the mangadex community. honorable sorts around these parts :hearts:
 
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1) The production guild would obviously be concerned with the resources used for production as with what we know having it become known someone can produce resources for construction projects the way that Miyabi did could impact almost all other production outfits.
They can be concerned, but that doesn't give them any right or control over it. Same as you having an Italian restaurant can be concerned about someone else starting up an Italian restaurant on the other side of the street.

If Miyabi uses his own resources, obtained by him legally, then that's that. The guilds only concern they can act upon is whether those resources were obtained legally. It's as simple as that.

2) This project of his is pretty ambitious from everyone else's point of view and would need to be authorized by the Duke at the very least because it's the Duke's land.
Which is exactly what I said. I literally wrote that the only one in this whole discussion that has any actual right to discuss anythin here is the Duke due to owning the land.

The terraforming that is suggested would also impact the resources available to the Production Guild (...)
Again, doesn't give him the right to be anything more than 'concerned'. Once again, Miyabi intended to use his own resources. As long as those would be sourced legally (him gathering them himself, buying them from the market etc.) then the guild can do nothing but twiddle their thumbs. By no means does it give them the right to interfere in whether this would be made or not.

As far as the legal management of access to certain resources (like mines) goes...again...it's the Dukes land and his approval or denial is the only one that matters.

(...) and even if it's just him and his friends, as well as would impact merchants with the issue of how does that impact merchant carts and adventurers with adventurers are paid to protect carts for days.
Same as above. Nothing you said explains why they should feel entitled to have more say and more control over this project than Miyabi, on par with the Duke. You just completely missed the point of everything I wrote.

3) The merchant and production guild leaders are dealing with someone who seems to be an upstart from their perspective, whose proposal would heavily impact both of their guilds interests. The production guild leader is also just someone who clearly thinks of commoners and probably non-humans as beneath him.
And? How is being an idiot an excuse for idiocy? If you're not trying to excuse their idiocy, then what is your point with this part?

4) The Duke has to figure out how to balance all the guilds and its more important not to overly antagonize them then Miyabi.
That's not true at all. For starters, the Duke even made them aware at this point. He had no reason to. If they weren't aware of it at the negotiation stage, they couldn't even 'show concerns'.

Also, you seem to misunderstand the kind of power that a Duke has over their land in such settings (like in medieval Europe). The guilds work because the Duke is allowing them to. They have any authority because the Duke offers it to them. He could throw out these guys and take over the guilds if he so pleased. It's non-sensical to believe that he'd have any problems due to that as long as his management over the people under these guilds (the average Joe or Jane merchant, craftsman etc.) would work well.

You did watch/read too many stories with adventurers guilds being these super-powerful cross-border entities, and you lost sight of how these things ACTUALLY work. It's plainly shown that this manga is leaning more towards how it WOULD work in real life. Proof? This very story arcs existence. If Adventurers guilds were that global entity, there wouldn't even be any need for the train in the first place. And we're talking about two towns in the SAME kingdom.

The guilds are local and they are made and controlled by the landlord. Duke in this case. That's a fact and it means that all of them are just nothing more than 'managers' of specific parts of the Dukes businesses. THEY (as individuals) have zero authority. As representatives of the guilds under the Duke, they have only as much 'authority' as he permits them. Meaning...if they go against him they have exactly zero if it.
 

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