Isekai Craft Gurashi ~Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life~ - Ch. 32

[alidan]

Man thats the dumbest trope, specially when its applied to characters that are supposed to be smart. "Do it in half the time" no motherfucker thats not how it works.

Actually, it kinda does.

I can only talk from the programing side and government contracts but I assume it extends to everything.

you are given 3 months for a project, everyone around you tells you to take your time and just relax and do it, but the new hotshot decided they have no idea what they are talking about, they they don't want him showing them up, so he gets the project done in 2 weeks (note this isn't ballbusting work every waking hour work, this is normal 9-5) and submits it. he is congratulated, and has no work or pay for the next 2 and a half months, no bonus, just got completely screwed over because he finished ahead of schedule and there is no task for him to do till the next contract period.

in the games industry a veteran from the 90's asks a newbie to make a quick ai mockup to get things moving around, and is told it will take 3 weeks to maybe work, the veteran after trying to get this person to do it, does it himself (not his job but its a quick plug variable a into b) in an afternoon so he can get on to mocking up areas... the next day the newbie filed an hr complaint for harassment or something along those lines, and the vet had to be sat down and told how the industry works now (they were out of big studios for a while, they were returning to it after the smaller projects they were working on lost funding) and how you cant expect people to work that fast or some shit.

look at twitter and how before elon took over you had how many developers that showed off how they work 10 minutes a day and the rest is talking to friends and starbucks.

i'm not going to pretend that some things actually do take time and there is no doing it faster, but my god the amount of dicking around and padding time that happens in modern workforces is stupid. I have a friend who works as a machinist, he will get a project that may take 2 weeks of him constantly working on it, but it could be parted out to multiple people and machines if the buyer wants to expedite it, or that 2 week could become 2 months if the bureaucracy gets involved (he does some high end work that needs many people inspecting and signing off at all stages), there is a hell of alot of fat that can be cut to reduce time, along with working in parallel that can speed it up as well.

 

[haurvatat23]

Actually, it kinda does.

I can only talk from the programing side and government contracts but I assume it extends to everything.

you are given 3 months for a project, everyone around you tells you to take your time and just relax and do it, but the new hotshot decided they have no idea what they are talking about, they they don't want him showing them up, so he gets the project done in 2 weeks (note this isn't ballbusting work every waking hour work, this is normal 9-5) and submits it. he is congratulated, and has no work or pay for the next 2 and a half months, no bonus, just got completely screwed over because he finished ahead of schedule and there is no task for him to do till the next contract period.

in the games industry a veteran from the 90's asks a newbie to make a quick ai mockup to get things moving around, and is told it will take 3 weeks to maybe work, the veteran after trying to get this person to do it, does it himself (not his job but its a quick plug variable a into b) in an afternoon so he can get on to mocking up areas... the next day the newbie filed an hr complaint for harassment or something along those lines, and the vet had to be sat down and told how the industry works now (they were out of big studios for a while, they were returning to it after the smaller projects they were working on lost funding) and how you cant expect people to work that fast or some shit.

look at twitter and how before elon took over you had how many developers that showed off how they work 10 minutes a day and the rest is talking to friends and starbucks.

i'm not going to pretend that some things actually do take time and there is no doing it faster, but my god the amount of dicking around and padding time that happens in modern workforces is stupid. I have a friend who works as a machinist, he will get a project that may take 2 weeks of him constantly working on it, but it could be parted out to multiple people and machines if the buyer wants to expedite it, or that 2 week could become 2 months if the bureaucracy gets involved (he does some high end work that needs many people inspecting and signing off at all stages), there is a hell of alot of fat that can be cut to reduce time, along with working in parallel that can speed it up as well.

there are a lot of industries where that's true and timelines are padded out from an administrative perspective, but you definitely can't speed up some things that just plain take time to accomplish, like the time needed for concrete to cure, or for fixative to perfuse into tissue for histology. some stuff is going to take a very specific amount of time no matter who's doing it or what deadlines are in place, because the laws of physics themselves keep you from making it go faster.

there's a reason i brought up the FIU pedestrian bridge and it's because the whole reason that thing collapsed is because the construction company was trying to get around concrete curing time impeding car traffic by having it cure elsewhere and then moving it onsite, which of course broke the concrete. this is what happens when you think you can outsmart physics to save on time. six people died when it collapsed. idk, i think miyabi's 100% in the right to want to take his time and stress-test the shit out of everything he makes before scaling up, especially when any unforeseen failure point could literally kill his best friend

 

[NamaeX]

Not sure if I said this before but this manga needs an anime yesterday. With all the Isekai that’s been greenlit or releasing anime this year this should be something people would enjoy since it has action, comedy, gratuitous food shots, and tinges of romance.

 

[NamaeX]

there are a lot of industries where that's true and timelines are padded out from an administrative perspective, but you definitely can't speed up some things that just plain take time to accomplish, like the time needed for concrete to cure, or for fixative to perfuse into tissue for histology. some stuff is going to take a very specific amount of time no matter who's doing it or what deadlines are in place, because the laws of physics themselves keep you from making it go faster.

there's a reason i brought up the FIU pedestrian bridge and it's because the whole reason that thing collapsed is because the construction company was trying to get around concrete curing time impeding car traffic by having it cure elsewhere and then moving it onsite, which of course broke the concrete. this is what happens when you think you can outsmart physics to save on time. six people died when it collapsed. idk, i think miyabi's 100% in the right to want to take his time and stress-test the shit out of everything he makes before scaling up, especially when any unforeseen failure point could literally kill his best friend

Miyabi even admitted he’s not knowledgeable in that field to begin with. Not to mention this is vastly different from his other works in that it has a lot of additional moving parts.

 

[NamaeX]

haurvatat23, don't look now, Utoon is trying to snipe this title.

 

[xSauriaNx]

contrary to lots of tripping comments here,

I actually like and "understand" the situation here. And this is something I think a lot of commenters have forgot; "NONE ARE ACQUAINTED WITH MIYABI AND HIS WORK!" aside from Zion and the Dukke but even them have never seen him DO HIS WORK.

The conservative Giorgi is speaking from production perspective which is valid, If you think about cost and resource usage with the context that their world haven't had developments in speedy transport, it is actual nuts. From prototyping to finalization of designs and QCs. That's an astronomical nuts. In our world, we can remedy that with cooperation and/or investment from other entities be it a private firm or a country itself. But the Angelum territory seems cannot afford to have those remedy. Especially winter time. Sending letters back and forth seems like utter counter-intuitive at the current season they have.

On Elda's side, the proposal is too good too be true. And someone like the hot lady that she is, seems to be a really huge STICKLER to the rules. Seems like the pride of a merchant when it comes to contracts. Back to what I want to say... SOMETHING THAT NICE ALWAYS HAS NEGATIVE ATTACHED TO IT... and she laid out enough the downside for their side. The railway construction will result into backdoor transactions that can get spiral down real ugly fast enough, hence her proposal, ironing out the basic utilization and regulation rules of it. There are people like Miyabi, in case you people forgot, albeit having lower leveled "inventory" skill that can be used to SMUGGLE goods fast enough. The illegal trades can benefit a lot more than you can imagine.

Here comes the Duke catching on the real deal of the project despite not actually hearing the actual real reason. So let's go back to the prototyping. Miyabi ballparked a six month to give himself a clear half year timeframe but the Duke slashed that to 3 months. To quote someone from the comments, "It is currently winter and 3 months is the perfect excuse to use to make a prototype to entice both production and merchant guilds as their activity are actually hindered by the winter itself". Duke Belldini has seen the result of Miyabi's work without actually seeing it. Miyabi actually works mind-bogglingly fast that a kilometre prototype railway is feasible under 3 months, he made short work on that mountain what makes you think an underground railway would be different? Miyabi did corner himself by not knowing the intricacies of a train cart though that didn't detract the founded confidence the Duke has for Miyabi.

Giorgi and Elda are getting heated that the fact Miyabi pitched in gave him the chance to shut both persistent mofos. The Duke have seen results and the fact that Miyabi's "interest" isn't stepping on others was a perfect chance to seal the deal and have things go forward during the time where the biggest hindrances are at their lowest functioning state. This was further supported by the fact that he noticed his daughter have burried the lede in her letter report. The outermost layer is Angelum is gonna have a perfect quick access to the Capital using the "new innovative technology!", under it is the "recommendation for travel to Royyal Academy" excused written by Chiffon. The real reason is something the Duke hasn't learned but clearly knows it exist is because Miyabi insisted to have a right on the project.

This father and daughter combo are really smart. Huge kudos to Chiffon too for intentionally burying the lede there in her report to make the Duke notice that there's a personal reason to the proposal veiled under a legit reason to have it.

On Miyabi, this was a hard lesson for him to learn. The game he played is literally a free to claim and build thingy majiggy to which he forgot that this other world has a functioning governing structure. He also got complacent that he did two approved work by the Duke that he thought that the Duke is the only approval he'll ever need. It wasn't his fault that he didn't know but he already got warned once during the renovation incident. Something he forgot.

Though out of this, Miyabi learned to "value" his work a bit. Yes, he can do things without anyone's approval really on any given time at any given pace, but this time now he knows not to blindly introduce projects without any form of consultation. It gets way out of hand and spirals ugly really fast. His personal project almost got snatched away from him and almost made him free labour for it. Moreso, since he personally experienced refused drafts in this world... again... maybe, that he needs to learn to restrain himself a bit more. He's literally just relying on people turning their brains off when interacting with him but the reality won't cater to such stupidity. Now he gets a hard dosage of reality and it is good. Good lesson for him.

 

[SoniaPhos]

About time this mc decided to grow a bit of a spine. He litterally has the highest mana capacity in the world (as far as we know).

He has to finish it in half the time, but he can clear mountains in a matter of minutes. So I don't see why he wouldnt be able to do it in 3 months so long as monsters don't attack.

Also having no experience in the field and knowledge of the amount of time, accounting for possible catastrophic errors like monster attacks, and for how monumentus his plan is. I would ask for 5-10 years minimum. Especially since he's never prototype. actually made a working.

Then if he happens to finish it in 6 months, he would have a better grasp of what he's capable of.

 

[Kaarme]

They thought they were just going to pay him and then ban him from even using it?

Yes, and to pay him a pittance, at that. 10 years of an average man's salary in the historical times was pretty much nothing. In the USA, an average annual salary seems to be $64k. Ten times that is $640k. Imagine you offered Elon Musk to make his Hyperloop work technologically and financially, with no risk for Musk himself, and he offered you $640k as compensation if you actually pulled it off. Not before, but after the thing is in operation, carrying folks between San Francisco and Los Angeles nonstop and making good profit. For the nominally richest man in the world, that would be candy money, and thus it would be nothing but an insult if he offered that to someone for solving one of his greatest regrets.

The duke was basically spitting on Miyabi's face when he told Miyabi should be happy with that laughable reward.

 

[xSauriaNx]

The duke was basically spitting on Miyabi's face when he told Miyabi should be happy with that laughable reward.

Really? More like he was challenging Miyabi since he was pitching in that he should have rights for the project too. And since the boy didn't back down, the Duke approved of it since he knows Miyabi has good track record so far.

There was no reward mentioned before Miyabi butted in.

 

[Khazar123]

Maybe we’re witnessing a character grow and learn to stand up for themselves and gain confidence in their ability to navigate in what are entirely novel situations idk.

I don’t see it as miyabi not having a backbone/always getting taken advantage of when a lot of the things have simply aligned with what he already wants to do and don’t cause a tremendous amount of friction.

Yes there are times when he could force an issue and ensure he gets a super awesome outcome for himself at the expense of others but it’s pretty clear that’s not his MO.

But we’ve also just seen him stick up for himself in what is clearly a tense situation for him, ie we are witnessing character growth.

Idk it’s weird how many ppl hate the OP MC who gets whatever they want and face zero adversity. But then hate when a character has to grow in any way that isn’t physical/magical power boost.

Just my thoughts and not aiming these at any comments in particular btw.

Well let’s just hope he will actually grow from this.

Some Manga/Media just have these “tense” situations for drama and a “backbone awakening” moment, just for MC to handle every situation after with the same personality, just it being different situations, so it’s not AS obvious that the MC never really changed.

We will see.

 

[MrGrinns]

I love how they have absolutely zero chance of making this project without him yet they still think they can cut him out of negotiations. Fucking vultures

 

[sotokouya]

if miyabi wasn't already doing stuff for the duke i would just scream and told him to get other country to do the projects instead of these people (i do feel bad for the adventurer guild's master too tho)