Isekai Kenkokuki - Vol. 2 Ch. 17

[Austriacus]

@CountryMage He is not saying that 1/5 of the population of the country has come in the last year, he is saying that after years of welcoming immigrant policy the immigrant population stands at around 20% of the total population. There is no country in the world who has increased its population by 20% in the year 2016. The immigrannt rate he is saying its 300k or so per year, depending on the countries population that can be a lot, very little or manageable.

 

[SapphireDemon]

@Solaz Exactly, go talk to King of Rosice since that it where this group was trying to go anyway. Furthermore, didn't he promise to start paying taxes to Rosice? Villages are taxed by the amount of people, he might not be able to keep these people even if he wanted to.

 

[ultraleaf]

Everyone in the comments going on about other thing's here i am bothered by *life hacks* uggh

 

[tip390]

@givemersspls I don't know what excuse you would find acceptable for abandoning your own child but it's not one that would fly with me. For example like Sophie's choice, abandoning one of your children to save the other does not make you a good mother in my book, it still makes you a bad one. A parents number 1 priority is to protect their child, you fail as a parent the moment you fail to do that. Abandoning your child under ANY circumstance is wrong and it makes you a terrible parent and person bottom line.
Also if there was some type of special circumstance that forced them to abandon Ruru, why did they never look for her to bring her back to the family? We know that they didn't expect to find her at the village, that means that they were only there to try to save their asses again and not find their daughter. How could you ever trust parents that would abandon their children to save themselves again? What excuse justifies this type of behavior??

 

[FireFish5000]

Bet the village will be pillaged by her parents while he is out.

 

[zeroxjac]

@givemersspls the reason is gonna be taxes, they are been saying that since the beginning, and everything i was gonna say has ben said by @tip390, there is no valid reason to abandon your child to die in a forest where you know a monster lives, there is no valid argument where you can trust or forgive someone for doing that.

 

[Drifter]

I'm surprised the Griffin let them through to the village in the first place.

 

[zeroxjac]

@givemersspls so famine + heavy taxes + death treats and instead of trying to go to another country they choose to basically kill their own child and only escape when there is this rumored paradise where they can save themselves......parent of the year.

 

[Thranyx]

(Interrupting/ignoring the serious conversation)
"When did we get married?" Well, wasn't it since the beginning of the series?? ?

 

[tip390]

@givemersspls In the situation you described, no you wouldn't automatically become a failure of a parent. You would only become a failure if you FAIL to protect your child as I said. As a parent, you're supposed to love all of your children the same. So if your in a situation where you have to let one child die to save the other then it's better that they both die. I know it sounds messed up but I'll tell you what's more messed up, knowing that you let one of your children die because of one of your decisions. At least if they're both dead you can tell your self you really had no choice and possibly in the future, you can make some more.

On the other side of the coin imagine if you as a mother pick one child over the other and for the rest of your life you remember that you had to let one of your children die to let this one live. You don't think that would cause you to somewhat resent your child, especially if that child doesn't turn out how you hoped they would. Or imagine if you were the child that survived, you don't think there would be this constant burden or pressure on you all because your the one that was chosen. You are only alive because your sibling was killed. You don't think that would cause resentment towards the mother or self-loathing? You have to think about these things when making that kind of decision. Choosing one child or the other is selfish and it shows who you are as a parent and a person. Now I ask again what excuse would be justified for abandoning your children?

 

[InsomniacReader]

@givemerssplz As an Outsider, yes it is a very rational thing to get the other persons side of the story, and I’m sure it will give a lot of insight and maybe change some opinions, however from the standpoint of The Child that was abandoned, I wouldn’t blame them to consider those “parents” dead to them for what they’ve done. It is a literal betrayal of the child’s trust and sure as hell will take A LOT to get it back to neutral.

 

[InsomniacReader]

@givemerssplz Ahh my apologies, it was not my intent for the “I wouldn’t blame them” part as me personally pointing at you or anyone for “blaming” what I was going for was more akin to “I wouldn’t be surprised if the abandoned child considered them dead to them” I couldn’t grasp a way to properly phrase it, so I chose to cut corners.

Question for the story: Did the story state if Ruru remember her parents or not because it didn’t look like she even realize that her mother was there until it was brought up, granted it’s a room with 30 people and time has past since last they have met and she might have been too young to remember (unless it wasn’t stated otherwise in the story).

 

[CountryMage]

@InsomniacReader I think until they called out to her, it was just a faceless mob of adults, just like it was for us readers. They could have been anyone.

As for everyone hung up on the choices of the parents to abandon the children, from what i remember, it was a combination of famine due to cursed crops, high (per head) taxes, and politics that led to the children being left in the woods, where they might possibly survive if the Griffin that owns the place doesn't object to them. The fact that there weren't any mangled bodies around the edge of the forest means that the Griffin let them stay, or allowed them to travel to another country, either way is a better chance of survival than staying home.

Edit: Tetra was the one that was orphaned for political reasons.

 

[BirchJuice]

So if your in a situation where you have to let one child die to save the other then it's better that they both die. I know it sounds messed up but I'll tell you what's more messed up, knowing that you let one of your children die because of one of your decisions. At least if they're both dead you can tell your self you really had no choice and possibly in the future, you can make some more...

Wtf am I reading

On the other side of the coin imagine if you as a mother pick one child over the other and for the rest of your life you remember that you had to let one of your children die to let this one live. You don't think that would cause you to somewhat resent your child...

Projecting?

 

[Wolvenworks]

she wants the diiiick

 

[guih34]

Please someone mod this shit, lately these threads have been derailing if there's an ounce of political topic on the manga, it's really sad like people need to share their political agenda/life experience over manga board and people you probably won't ever met.

I thought Almus would marry the princess, but guess Tetra won't let him.

 

[azerez]

absolute state of this comment section ??

 

[Yamibi]

Illigal imigrants!

 

[BloodySorcerer]

They need to build a wall now

 

[LVLBeginner]

@givemersspls That's the story that someone tells themselves so that they can do something terrible. They talk themselves into it. "We've no other choice, it's the only way." Yes, she's a teen now, but how long has that child been living in that village? When we first started, all the children were ten or younger. Only someone lying to themselves could believe that a ten year old will do anything other than die when thrown into a forest. Even is a child found food, they'd die of disease or exposure.