Isekai Mokushiroku Mynoghra: Hametsu no Bunmei de Hajimeru Sekai Seifuku - Ch. 25 - Clever Scheme

[alfirizkyr]

On surface the story is wild. RPG, DnD, and RTS genre in an open pvp season, who will win?

I wonder if there will be other genre included. Imagine suddenly Master Chief or Doom Guy enter the scene to represent FPS.

Also does anyone have an idea of Hero dude genre? Feels like he came with as a set with the RPG Demon Lord.

I only remember there being 3 RPG-based games (MMORPG single-player cheat growth, JRPG NPC-supported team building adventure, and HRPG with the succubi), but I forgot which one was the Hero's.

 

[Goldenzeal]

if

I .....why do he seem so hot to me....

if evil, why hot?

 

[schizz0]

The Light Novel explains the scene in way more detail, but during that scene the Witch is only controlling her physical body, not her mind (though she's technically capable of it). The Saintess joins the Witch because despite being a half-insane loose cannon she's ultimately after one of the same things the Saintess is: the destruction of all that is Evil. The rampant corruption and abuses of the church bothered the Saintess greatly, yet she felt powerless. Then the Witch forced her to directly eliminate the problem (violently and all over the place) and showed her that she was not powerless, in fact anything but. The Witch took a complicated problem and "uncomplicated it" for her.

So seh's like her devil advocate?

 

[Regius]

Ok, build a nuke, end of story... I still don't like it. Doesn't fit IMO

This is actually an unrealised problem with production abilities...

If I had to guess it's cost basis is to many resources so dude is probably getting, "You need to build more pylons" message. It's been a few months and while MC is able to get more resource generation going with his pop and building improvements he is still building off the RTS tech tree so he might not be able to jump to nukes or the overall mana cost is so high he cannot freely cast and use the RPG's coins to free mana recharge. Honestly I'd be more interesting in the limitations of what counts as provision for his RTS. Units are their own thing so he cannot just copy paste elves since they're not even his main population unit but what about livestock like horses, elephants, or some mythic style mounts like psudeo earth dragons (since real dragons would def be a combat unit)? Food makes sense, weapons (recuit militia) also sort of makes sense, and economy boost (creating currency) is fairly normal. All of these can be flexible if you keep your mind open but could militia provision apply to things like poison for biological warfare as they're weapons? In theory all the correct pieces are in place for him, he's an evil faction, has assassin based units as his primary citizen density and the mana MC produce's transforms the surrounding to weaken enemy factions (aka broadly poison) so could he make like small pox jars and just send his bug scouts out to drop that shit in enemy city's slum?

RPG's you wouldn't have enough mana to heal everyone so they lose citizen unit's, the TRPG witch wouldn't be able to crit heal her way to success either as even if her god (DM) used rule of cool she's clearly not a healer based class. The Eroge creatures are a difficult opponet as H-games opperate on crazy stupid logic which is why the succubus's words to the elves while funny might form a fundemental fail state for anyone fighting them ("Males can't go against Titty's"). H-game logic has crazy stuff like fucking a cold out of someone's system so dialed up to 11 I don't know if biological weapons could work but like other's mentioned her title means she could be defeated with proper sex which would make H-game logic sense unless you force break the genre like how RTS got roped into the RPG's scripted event scenaro.

So seh's like her devil advocate?

She roleplayed a great coversation and got a bit of luck with the dice I'd guess but yes. When you can tell a walking missle their problems are from lack of direction and then give them cooridates as long as the ends justify the means they'll be happy to blow up whereever you point to. Saintess still has some reservations about wanton murder but "murder" for the greater good is some crusade type shit and she's open to that even if that leads down a hell of a path.

 

[TestAddress]

From this, they go the arms dealer route. Where they provide "protection" only when beneficial in the form of ammo.

Yes!!! We be going for the gunner and guerilla tactics route.
Hope we get some more artillery and some demolitions style traps

 

[TestAddress]

she is crazier than mc goddamn

Must be an isekai character, a "god".

 

[GridLite]

logically, mc did a big brain for thinking of selling the guns and ammunition and having the monopoly for the ammunition market but he should've deprived them of guns with any mag capacity. just sell them single shot rifles and pistols..
personally, selling our modern weapons on a medieval settings just feels weird.

 

[ClemCa]

Sure, their current technology may not be enough to produce the ammunition. However, if you hand them over they can easily reverse engineer the ammo and produce them without needing you. It's a foolish thought.

They're not aiming to keep it for themselves forever. Modern ammo are also more complex to do right than you'd think. You can't just do "nearly circular", "1mm off", or "pretty straight", it compromises the quality of the bullet, not just its exit velocity but also its trajectory and interaction with the barrel. Gunpowder can be figured out, but the right amount still needs to be used. Not just any random medieval gunpowder can reduce chances of misfiring too.
So yeah they can figure out how to forge bullet casings, how to produce gunpowder, and where to put the gunpowder in the casing, but figuring out mass production with extremely high levels of precision? No chance.

 

[ClemCa]

Maybe you were thinking of Her Majesty's Swarm? Scanlation recently wrapped up. Similar isekai RTS where MC's race is "dark/evil"-aligned.
Looking forward to seeing more of how other factions collide, as the ones so far have depth to them. Her Majesty's Swarm kinda fell flat on that front.

The (her majesty's swarm) manga never got its chance. The novel has way more content and goes more in depth, though whether you like it depends more on what you're looking for. It's quite different from the manga.

 

[Loli_Omamoritai]

So, if I remember correctly, gods trying to decide which game setting is better by clashing all of them in single battle royal? Also looks like MC still don't know it. And that Dice-girl... How is "limitless" her power? If she from DnD setting, it is possible for her just to ask GM to kill all other players and try to roll 20?

Yeah, it's that kind of power. Moreover the GM can use ignore the result of the roll and choose the result he wants.

Just think it like, use 1 pull in normal banner, result in getting 3* sword, and ignore it to take 5* limited character.

Warning in advance, after 1 or 2 chapters, you can wait for 1 or 2 years to read the whole Act. Or you might become crazy with the plot.

 

[Seraphus]

"I got reincarnated as an evil god"

No? He seems fairly... nice? Doesn't seem evil?
Okay, that stuff is creepy, but it's just a "game setting," so he's not really evil...
And such heart, and love! Definitely not evil!

....
And then, he gets into this chapter.

Okay.
Yep.
He's evil; got it.

 

[Kefrayba]

I checked the official raw site. The next release schedule is currently TBA. 😭

 

[Excalibro]

You're underestimating just how high up metallic cartridges are in a technology base. We knew about them since before the revolutionary war but the actual techniques and technologies to make them viable didn't appear until nearly 100+ years later. Hell, paper cartridges existed as a stop gap technology for many weapons and those had numerous downsides as well. That's not even getting into the science of ballistics and ensuring that each cartridge is within allowable tolerances (typically between +0.05/-0.05 for sloppy fits, +0.005/-0.005 for typical ones) since going out side of those risks jamming the gun or the round detonating out of battery... and if I remember correctly, in the LN, they had AKs and a Barret .50 cals in that scene (which makes the sisters shooting them standing even crazier since those things weigh about 35-40lbs and generate a fairly sizable amount of recoil).

Someone already posted in here, but the technologies you need for metallic cartridges are:
Case shaping
Bullet casting (for simple lead ball)
Primer manufacturing (this is the huge one. Without primers, metallic cartridges basically aren't feasible)
And gunpowder manufacturing (easiest but also the most dangerous. Also depends on whether or not you make smokeless powder or blackpowder. Using smokeless in a blackpowder weapon is a surefire way to experience a spontaneous disassembly of the weapon)

Don’t forget the crazy wizard tech to get glass and reticles good enough to compete with modern magnification. While not necessary, it’s a huge force multiplier.

 

[Coldlight]

Surprised to see guns in play, but that is the fastest way to gain military power, far faster and easier to train with than training batches of warriors in traditional swordsmanship and archery.

The neutral Phon'Kaven country is handing over control of their remote city to Mynoghra. Considering how they really can't defend it well, might as well cede it to the ally who can before it falls to a hostile power's hands.

I'm not quite sure if the kingdom of Qualia has completely fallen to Eranoki and her god, but it's clear that Soalina has switched sides to her.

 

[Xnagos]

Sure, their current technology may not be enough to produce the ammunition. However, if you hand them over they can easily reverse engineer the ammo and produce them without needing you. It's a foolish thought.

Yeah but manga follows whatever bs logic it wants. Just gotta ignore reality and then you can enjoy it care free.

 

[SunSun]

Sure, their current technology may not be enough to produce the ammunition. However, if you hand them over they can easily reverse engineer the ammo and produce them without needing you. It's a foolish thought.

They'd have to first invent the tools to make the tools to invent the tools for brass. Just brass. Not gunpowder, not the machining for high precision.

They'd need to do the same for high quality smokeless gunpowder.

And the same for lead. And then the same for the tools to even make the machines for creating a barrel with rifling.

Yeah but manga follows whatever bs logic it wants. Just gotta ignore reality and then you can enjoy it care free.

Without using the internet, can you take apart a wooden pencil and figure out how to build it from scratch? From sourcing the graphite, the wood, the rubber for the eraser and metal bit, then processing them in a way to make a pencil, and then mass manufacturing it all, just from taking a pencil apart?

You are as far away from doing so, as the societies in the story are from creating ammunition by taking it apart.