Jinrouki Winvurga Hangyaku-hen

[TaurusRex]

I don't think anyone is reading Winvurga for the story so not sure if I should add spoilers. I'll add it anyway though.

Spoiler: Spoilers

preview scans of the next chapter. Shows Hibana and Zayne getting captured and seemingly about to be experimented on/tortured by a new female Dominator. The new character seems to be the leader of her own squad, with all the female Dominators wearing qipaos as a uniform. https://x.com/k2batto/status/2043212898466668778

last month's ch seems to be hinting that there will be some time travel in the future. There are three kinds of Walder's Authority in the Winvurga universe which are Life, Memory, and Time. The Supreme Commander has the Life Authority, who is so powerful that any fight against him is pointless because it's like fighting the author of the story. Win's sensei(forgot her name) said that Mashrio would've have won if it was anyone else.

Sensei gives the authority of Memory to Win because she would've died from trauma from the backlash of watching Mashiro. I think this is essentially a way for Tsunashima to flashback to past characters and see them get graped, as Win can only get stronger when she sees more flashbacks.

The Authority of Time's user is not known. No clues who it is, but what the abilities they posses seem to be pretty obvious. I could honestly see the ability being used when Win losses against the Supreme Commander in a bad ending fashion, before going back in time for the happy ending. Or some other time travel shenanigans.

Me! Me! I originally started reading this after finishing Crossbone Gundam for the plot and cool mecha!
Wasn't expecting what we got. I thought chapter 1 was just shock factor and the author would tone down eventually. XD

Spoiler

What part of the chapter confirmed the 3rd Authority was for Time? I'm using AI translator to check the raws, but that never came up on the translation. Also, time travel is like a double-edged weapon considering who the author is. On one hand, Win can seek out a better future even if she suffers through repeated defeats like a certain magical girl from MADOKA. On the other hand, that allows the author to put them through more suffering, including irreparable damage, since the Authority of Time's wielder would negate it all.

If the holder is an existing character, I would put my guess on Aoka. The Supreme Commander wants her wed to him and even went to the trouble of negotiating w/ the old hags at Amatsu no Yomi when he could just go straight to attacking it repeatedly. He also doesn't seem like the other Dominators who are always acting based on their lust.

My second guess is Akao. Because why is a Jinki:Extend character in this world? Even if this is the same universe, why is she here looking like she did in her own time period? The STAR types like Winvurga are considered ancient, so even if the Supreme Commander rose to power immediately after Jinki Unlimited and sent the STAR types to create the first Voids, Akao shouldn't be here under normal circumstances. Time travel? Cold sleep? Different universe? Immortality? Who knows..

 

[zurickuu]

Spoiler: Seeing the new chapter

it seems like zayne and hibana are gonna be forced to breed with each other, if it really is a peek into years in the past then i doubt their fate could change for the better, at best they just breed Dominators pilots until win rescues them, or something worst could happen during that time

 

[SmithsonianRage]

Me! Me! I originally started reading this after finishing Crossbone Gundam for the plot and cool mecha!
Wasn't expecting what we got. I thought chapter 1 was just shock factor and the author would tone down eventually. XD

Spoiler

What part of the chapter confirmed the 3rd Authority was for Time? I'm using AI translator to check the raws, but that never came up on the translation. Also, time travel is like a double-edged weapon considering who the author is. On one hand, Win can seek out a better future even if she suffers through repeated defeats like a certain magical girl from MADOKA. On the other hand, that allows the author to put them through more suffering, including irreparable damage, since the Authority of Time's wielder would negate it all.

If the holder is an existing character, I would put my guess on Aoka. The Supreme Commander wants her wed to him and even went to the trouble of negotiating w/ the old hags at Amatsu no Yomi when he could just go straight to attacking it repeatedly. He also doesn't seem like the other Dominators who are always acting based on their lust.

My second guess is Akao. Because why is a Jinki:Extend character in this world? Even if this is the same universe, why is she here looking like she did in her own time period? The STAR types like Winvurga are considered ancient, so even if the Supreme Commander rose to power immediately after Jinki Unlimited and sent the STAR types to create the first Voids, Akao shouldn't be here under normal circumstances. Time travel? Cold sleep? Different universe? Immortality? Who knows..

Oh it actually wasn’t in the chapter. Time being the 3rd authority just sounds like something an otaku like Tsunashima would like, considering he's done it quite a lot in the Jinki manga and eroges. I feel like he even hinted it in Winvurga throughout the story. Not to mention how each Void have different sense of time. Of course, that might be a stretch, but considering how many times he's repeated the same plot points feels like it's something he would do lol

I do have a wild theory that if the third authority is Time, that it was probably Winvurga when she was a mech. Winvurga is literally the only being in the Winvurga universe that can heal a body at 100%, almost like she's reverting a human body's time. This is something she still has as a human(by turning her into a futa). There’s also that moment before the manga went on hiatus where Midori captures Mashiro and tells Winvurga she doesn’t actually care about Mashiro at all. Instead, what she really wants is something inside Winvurga’s mech. Midori doesn't elaborate what is inside Winvurga, but she cares more about that than she does the power of a Spindler.

Spoiler: new chapter spoilers

the upcoming chapters might be about Zayne and Hibana forced to mate with each other to make children. I feel like it's obvious at that point that the new pilot is their daughter at this point. I thought Mashiro's child would've showed up first when she got her flashback chapters but turns out it's Zayne and Hibana's that showed up first. Maybe Win will go around recruiting the children of all the past Winvurga chars to join her rebellion lol And the Supreme Commander literally hard carries the Dominators so hard. If it weren't for him, the manga would probably be a mecha manga about women hunting down men instead

 

[VRaptorX]

Okay so I agree with your theory that the 3rd power is time. Because that’s going to give us both a bad end and a good end. It’s a marketing move. First, for everyone who just wants to see the defeat, you get that. Win loses to the commander/emperor with his bs plot powers. We see everyone broken. We see Mashiro as nothing more than an empty shell tied to a pregnancy machine. Etc. etc.

Then, after seeing all that, someone rescues win and we go back in time and stop it from happening. We go back and save Mashiro. Zayn gets to be with her, win gets to take her virginity. All the promises people made to each other happens…and screw it, through time shenanigans somehow this doesn’t delete the children from the previous timeline.

This is a way to have your cake and eat it too. It makes sense from a cynical, money-driven perspective. It’s not very high on the artistic integrity chart…but let’s be honest, this mess of a series never was to begin with.

 

[VRaptorX]

Also, what is going on with this site? This manga/page doesn’t show up half the time. Everything else works fine, except for this. I have to keep going through the forums to get to the manga main page, because clicking on the main page itself just gives me a blank screen.

 

[TaurusRex]

Oh it actually wasn’t in the chapter. Time being the 3rd authority just sounds like something an otaku like Tsunashima would like, considering he's done it quite a lot in the Jinki manga and eroges. I feel like he even hinted it in Winvurga throughout the story. Not to mention how each Void have different sense of time. Of course, that might be a stretch, but considering how many times he's repeated the same plot points feels like it's something he would do lol

I do have a wild theory that if the third authority is Time, that it was probably Winvurga when she was a mech. Winvurga is literally the only being in the Winvurga universe that can heal a body at 100%, almost like she's reverting a human body's time. This is something she still has as a human(by turning her into a futa). There’s also that moment before the manga went on hiatus where Midori captures Mashiro and tells Winvurga she doesn’t actually care about Mashiro at all. Instead, what she really wants is something inside Winvurga’s mech. Midori doesn't elaborate what is inside Winvurga, but she cares more about that than she does the power of a Spindler.

Spoiler: new chapter spoilers

the upcoming chapters might be about Zayne and Hibana forced to mate with each other to make children. I feel like it's obvious at that point that the new pilot is their daughter at this point. I thought Mashiro's child would've showed up first when she got her flashback chapters but turns out it's Zayne and Hibana's that showed up first. Maybe Win will go around recruiting the children of all the past Winvurga chars to join her rebellion lol And the Supreme Commander literally hard carries the Dominators so hard. If it weren't for him, the manga would probably be a mecha manga about women hunting down men instead

Lol. That's so insane. But also, the author is that kind of insane, so it all checks out. I guess Win needs to rescue Midori as well so she can spell it out in front of everyone if that turns out to be true.

 

[Xh30]

So... why is this tagged as "Girl's Love? It's just girls getting raped by men.

 

[VRaptorX]

So... why is this tagged as "Girl's Love? It's just girls getting raped by men.

Probably for the first…2-ish chapters of yuri.

 

[Xh30]

Probably for the first…2-ish chapters of yuri.

That makes no sense. It's not even the focus of the manga.

I've already reported it to correct the information.

 

[zurickuu]

That makes no sense. It's not even the focus of the manga.

I've already reported it to correct the information.

Not true, it is the focus of the manga, especially with win growing a dick and wanting to fuck all the girls and having an especially close connection to the previous MC who praised win her virginity

 

[Loner210]

Spoiler: Seeing the new chapter

it seems like zayne and hibana are gonna be forced to breed with each other, if it really is a peek into years in the past then i doubt their fate could change for the better, at best they just breed Dominators pilots until win rescues them, or something worst could happen during that time

I believe in a chapter Win did meet an older Zane? Or did my memory play prank with me lol. But if it's true then well, it really does feel like it's too late to rescue Mashiro. Oh well, I just want to see how this author will write a way out of this dumpster fire then, cause so far it's just doom after doom for the good side.

 

[Loner210]

Not true, it is the focus of the manga, especially with win growing a dick and wanting to fuck all the girls and having an especially close connection to the previous MC who praised win her virginity

And that focus is lost for like 20 chapters already. Let be real, no GL reader wants to read a series tagged as GL but full of raped by men. Another series, Satanophany, also has the main character being lesbian, and get the tag removed already.

Also, the website that officially hosting this series does have the lily tag for GL manga, and you know what, this doesn't have it.

 

[SmithsonianRage]

Lol. That's so insane. But also, the author is that kind of insane, so it all checks out. I guess Win needs to rescue Midori as well so she can spell it out in front of everyone if that turns out to be true.

It’ll probably be a while before we see Win rescue anyone from the original Winvruga. Because of that, instead of Midori explaining everything directly after being rescued, it’s more likely we’ll get a flashback of her talking about it that Win experiences later.

Another reason for this is that the original characters will probably all be confined within the Dominator Home Void. That way, they can be rescued all at once instead of individually. Structurally, that’s much easier to handle for Tsunashima as he can show grape flashbacks rather than juggling multiple rescue arcs and trying to reintegrate each character back into the story.

On top of that, having all the original characters rescued at the same time and reunited would likely hit much harder emotionally than a series of staggered rescues.

How I see the story play out is that every volume, there will be a grape flashback with an OG character, then after Tsunashima runs out of OG characters, he will start drawing the newer characters being graped in each volume. The new characters will probably consist of completely new characters, the children of the OG characters, and all the reincarnated mechs of the OG characters. If we assume Tsunashima is going to do time travel stuff, we will then get a volume revolved around Win going through a bad ending then travel back in time to prevent the bad ending.

I could see it play out two ways after this. The time travel stuff will either be only go on for a couple of chapters or Tsunashima will have Win travel back in time all the way back to Jinki, to find out how the Winvurga universe formed. Tsunashima is probably still bitter about Jinki getting cancelled early, so this will be how Tsunashima finally finishes the Jinki story. And this way also makes it so each volume can have a grape moment. Or Tsunashima will only focus on the time travel stuff for a couple of chapters then end the story with a happy ending soon after. But consdering Tsunashima's curse of cancelling manga early, I feel like he'll definitely want Winvurga to last even longer. Either way, Mashiro and the OG characters are going to be old enough to be grandparents by the end of the series, which I find hilarious lowkey lol

 

[VRaptorX]

In all honesty, the actual storytelling in this manga is pretty bad. It really like someone making it all up as they go

Mashiro was a much better main character too. Win doesn’t actually have a personality outside of “I want Mashiro. Remember Mashiro. What is Mashiro doing now?” Etc etc.

I’d rather have just had a series of Mashiro trying to escape.

 

[SmithsonianRage]

In all honesty, the actual storytelling in this manga is pretty bad. It really like someone making it all up as they go

Mashiro was a much better main character too. Win doesn’t actually have a personality outside of “I want Mashiro. Remember Mashiro. What is Mashiro doing now?” Etc etc.

I’d rather have just had a series of Mashiro trying to escape.

That's because he is making it up as he goes. Also, most of Rebellion is spent on grape of the OG Winvurga characters and mecha battles, so obviously Win is going to get barely any development.

I also think Mashiro is a better MC. In OG Winvurga, there was always a feeling of dread with a lot of characters getting close to violating Mashiro, only for her to escape with her willpower and rage. The source of that rage being the devastating attack on her entire hometown and shattering of her entire reality. Mashiro also had to deal with the Dominators literally sending all of their soldiers at her just to capture her. It also helped that Mashiro had a cast of characters around her that she interacts with on a consistent basis and those characters also receiving their own focus chapters too. And we never had full on grape flashback for ten whole chapters before in OG Winvurga.

In Rebellion, Win's anger at the Dominators is a lot less personal. While the Dominators have done terrible things to her loved ones, Win has never had a tragic start like Mashiro did. If you also compare Win's personality compared to her as Winvurga the mech, the mecha Winvurga acted way more crass and arrogant, so it feels they're two entirely different characters even when they're technically the same.

And if you compare Win's relationships with the people around here, it feels like everyone is a workplace acquaintance you barely talk to. We barely see other characters have their own conversations with each other unless Win is there. So Win's whole character feels incredibly boring. Win also gets random powerups just because the plot demands it, rather than Mashiro gaining power ups through becoming more determined against the odds stacked against her

 

[VRaptorX]

Yeah, and even now I feel like Mashiro is really the one that has the emotional connection. She’s the one that got assaulted. Trying to do the “just think about how upset this makes Win” is kind of missing the entire point.

Like, replace win with just a random guy and it’s a blatantly obvious. The focus should be on Mashiro, not Steven Bland.

 

[Loner210]

In all honesty, the actual storytelling in this manga is pretty bad. It really like someone making it all up as they go

Mashiro was a much better main character too. Win doesn’t actually have a personality outside of “I want Mashiro. Remember Mashiro. What is Mashiro doing now?” Etc etc.

I’d rather have just had a series of Mashiro trying to escape.

I already said it before lol. This spinoff, or rather sequel feels flat compared to the original. Maybe author is trying to use the original characters as stepping stones to build Win up, but I just can't feel any attachment to her. Even if that wild theory comes true and we do have a happy ending, it would be hard, at least to me, to feel satisfying.

 

[prettyfuckinggay]

What the fuck is this

 

[TaurusRex]

It’ll probably be a while before we see Win rescue anyone from the original Winvruga. Because of that, instead of Midori explaining everything directly after being rescued, it’s more likely we’ll get a flashback of her talking about it that Win experiences later.

Another reason for this is that the original characters will probably all be confined within the Dominator Home Void. That way, they can be rescued all at once instead of individually. Structurally, that’s much easier to handle for Tsunashima as he can show grape flashbacks rather than juggling multiple rescue arcs and trying to reintegrate each character back into the story.

On top of that, having all the original characters rescued at the same time and reunited would likely hit much harder emotionally than a series of staggered rescues.

How I see the story play out is that every volume, there will be a grape flashback with an OG character, then after Tsunashima runs out of OG characters, he will start drawing the newer characters being graped in each volume. The new characters will probably consist of completely new characters, the children of the OG characters, and all the reincarnated mechs of the OG characters. If we assume Tsunashima is going to do time travel stuff, we will then get a volume revolved around Win going through a bad ending then travel back in time to prevent the bad ending.

I could see it play out two ways after this. The time travel stuff will either be only go on for a couple of chapters or Tsunashima will have Win travel back in time all the way back to Jinki, to find out how the Winvurga universe formed. Tsunashima is probably still bitter about Jinki getting cancelled early, so this will be how Tsunashima finally finishes the Jinki story. And this way also makes it so each volume can have a grape moment. Or Tsunashima will only focus on the time travel stuff for a couple of chapters then end the story with a happy ending soon after. But consdering Tsunashima's curse of cancelling manga early, I feel like he'll definitely want Winvurga to last even longer. Either way, Mashiro and the OG characters are going to be old enough to be grandparents by the end of the series, which I find hilarious lowkey lol

Looking around, someone said the void the Dominators live in has the slowest time progression. Remember how slow time runs in Amatsu no Yomi? Mashiro aged for nearly 2 decades in Void Mueller. Meanwhile, her cousin Aoka, who should be older than her, is still the same age based on appearance. So if the Dominator void is even slower, Win will probably find them not even in their 30s.

 

[TaurusRex]

What the fuck is this

Uh, well... not your everyday manga. You should run while you can, while you're not too attached to any characters to stop.