Josou shite Off-Kai ni Sanka shite mita. - Vol. 3 Ch. 55

[ariel_haymarket]

EVERYONE HAS BIAS.
Thats what humans be doin.
I laugh at my inability to stop looking for Jews in media (people or characters), but that’s just… bein Jewish.

Again, he's mad that a transgender translator is having fun with the material. I'm seeing some liberties being taken in Sexiled and it's still a fun translation to read.

 

[smolbaka]

Either contribute to the discussion or be quiet.

I did, I provided, and I hope any lurking bystanders shifting through these comments see the translator in a new light. Good day to y'all

 

[ariel_haymarket]

Look, trolling because of the impotence you feel about seeing the translator being popular on tumblr and reddit and youtube and her having fun isn't actual contributions, tinydingus. I offered a snippet regarding a major theme of identity and expression and you didn't want to engage with that, instead resorting to ad homs and needing to discredit rather than discuss. That's your choice. You're going to be upset with chapters 56 and 59 on your own volition.

To quote a translator, if it's not to your taste, learn how to cook/translate.

 

[smolbaka]

Look, trolling because of the impotence you feel about seeing the translator being popular on tumblr and reddit and youtube and her having fun isn't actual contributions, tinydingus. I offered a snippet regarding a major theme of identity and expression and you didn't want to engage with that, instead resorting to ad homs and needing to discredit rather than discuss. That's your choice. You're going to be upset with chapters 56 and 59 on your own volition.

To quote Sexiled's translator, if it's not to your taste, learn how to cook/translate.

Looks like when you said I was upset, it was straight up projection lololol anyways now I'll go

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1686549017147142144

 

[Thrembs]

Again, he's mad that a transgender translator is having fun with the material. I'm seeing some liberties being taken in Sexiled and it's still a fun translation to read.

Yup, I know. Everyone takes liberties because that’s what translation requires.
It’s only objectionable when… yeah. Oy


I have a policy of not consuming Japanese media with titles that long aside RE:Zero which I only watched because of a recommendation and then read most of the books (still reading. I love me some cosmic horror and that’s layered through it). Didn’t know the title was long when I was watching it either lol

 

[ariel_haymarket]

media not at all related to the discussion

If it's not to your taste, learn how to cook.

 

[Thrembs]

Look, trolling because of the impotence you feel about seeing the translator being popular on tumblr and reddit and youtube and her having fun isn't actual contributions, tinydingus. I offered a snippet regarding a major theme of identity and expression and you didn't want to engage with that, instead resorting to ad homs and needing to discredit rather than discuss. That's your choice. You're going to be upset with chapters 56 and 59 on your own volition.

To quote a translator, if it's not to your taste, learn how to cook/translate.

Hey, now. Let’s not talk dinguses. Not literal ones. I wouldn’t mind a small one, but I’m quite happy with what I got.

 

[MrMoonlight]

So this is crossdressing manga?

 

[ariel_haymarket]

So this is crossdressing manga?

yes?

 

[Thrembs]

So this is crossdressing manga?

All but one main character, yeah.
Well, Lemon is kinda midrange on that. He just goes for cute without pretend to be a woman. Mostly. Not always.

iunno, just read it, it’s good.

 

[tomo32]

There’s no reason to try to argue with someone who refused to accept one trans woman coming out in this story being called trans and made a big stink about it, and STILL refuses to accept that Bridget of Guilty Gear is a girl, despite her entire story of her DLC being about her finally coming out and ends with her coming out, and the creators putting out a lengthy statement about it.

the creator of guilty gear literally put out a statement saying we only put Bridget trans for political issues

 

[Mashii52]

Oh, what's going on with the other table of customers?
...yeah idk either
Wanna have some tea while we just watch, fellow lurking bystanders?

 

[pink_rabbit]

There’s no reason to try to argue with someone who refused to accept one trans woman coming out in this story being called trans and made a big stink about it, and STILL refuses to accept that Bridget of Guilty Gear is a girl, despite her entire story of her DLC being about her finally coming out and ends with her coming out, and the creators putting out a lengthy statement about it.

Sad there's people still like this.... I admit I like traps/otoko no ko characters but also happy for trans characters. It's, once again, sad because gender is so complicated. It's never black and white.

 

[pink_rabbit]

So this is crossdressing manga?

Yup. All except one. All are just men except Lemon. The beginning talks about her being disappointed how she's the only woman in the group too. Trans but still a woman

 

[ariel_haymarket]

Yup. All except one. All are just men except Lemon. The beginning talks about her being disappointed how she's the only woman in the group too. Trans but still a woman

I think you mean Tarou

 

[pink_rabbit]

I think you mean Tarou

Oops. Yes

 

[Thrembs]

the creator of guilty gear literally put out a statement saying we only put Bridget trans for political issues

…nah.
I just did a search, read for two pages of searches looking for anything that wasn’t an article praising the change or someone ranting transphobia on Twitter, and then read two wiki articles (Wikipedia and the gg fandom).
Nothing that agrees with that.All of it is just him saying “yes, she’s a girl. She/her. Next question”.

Also, everything is political. It’s just easiest to see when it involves a change away from your own politics.

Want an example of making a character trans that is bungled and clumsy? Arcee from Transformers (ironic lol). Pointless (just retcon the mad scientist out of the equatio), pandering and ham-fisted (making it super heroic). Bleh.

The narrative of Bridget’s life is super interesting with this change. They could have touched things up to make the earlier stuff less cringe and kept her a boy, but the cringey stuff works great as part of a trans woman’s life. Confusion about who you are is messy and confusing, especially when there’s pressure from multiple sides. So her messy and confusing story works.

I‘m all in favour of non-traditional gender presentation. I literally applauded when Freminet and Lyney were announced, and I don’t even play Genshin anymore.
(I think Lyney’s costume is a bit much, but that’s just fashion sense differences. He can dress like Dr Frankenfurter if he wants! I didn’t get strung out by the way he looks. I love The Rocky Horror Picture Show. I was surprised, but only and the chutzpah of the devs. Then again, they made Xiao and they gave Jean a Kainé-esque bulge and put subtitles right there so I was playing a quest and BLAM. Soooo much… cock. They don’t give a fuck.)

There are lots of femboys things out there that are way better-written than Bridget, these days. In the East and in the West.

Give up.

 

[Thrembs]

Sad there's people still like this.... I admit I like traps/otoko no ko characters but also happy for trans characters. It's, once again, sad because gender is so complicated. It's never black and white.

That word... Talking about literal traps for animals or in video games makes me cringe at this point. Sigh.

there’s a TeeZandos song where she’s clearly talking about guns, but the two or three bars around it make it sound wild on first listen.

Well, she seems to actively confuse people about her gender situation. She uses all kind of personal pronouns in her songs, and said in one interview she’s “technically a boy”, but that, in context, could have been said to just to confuse simps. But the interviewer also asked if she had her stage name on her birth certificate and she said “I wish” and the question itself seemed random because you can’t change your birth certificate unless…
and no one says anything negative about her in that scene. The hardcore UK drill scene.
She’s just so good no one can deny.

Wow that was a tangent.

edit: the song in question is “OT” but all her shit is dope.

 

[Thrembs]

I think you mean Tarou

Unrelated, I just noticed that your profile pic ended up cropped to say “and ran straight he”, and don’t recall that being the case 😂 😝

 

[ariel_haymarket]

[G]ender is so complicated. It's never black and white.

The fun part in all of this discussion is that, while we may be assign something arbitrarily at birth, gender identity is not a neat bimodal distribution and neither is gender expression. The sooner that we stop trying to force binaries and particular expectations on expression, the better.