Katainaka no Ossan, Kensei ni Naru ~Tada no Inaka no Kenjutsu Shihan Datta noni, Taisei Shita Deshi-tachi ga Ore wo Hottekurenai Ken~ - Vol. 7 Ch. 33…

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In my opinion there's nothing bad about having an OP MC, but for a story with OP main character to work the author themselves must give more thought about how they will lay out the story, otherwise it will come of as just your typical power fantasy with nothing going for it as time goes.

The best examples I can bring out to compare are Solo Leveling vs Latna Saga, while both of them are manhwa and not manga (it's technically a "manga" but from KR) it's the two that pop out of my head first when I saw this topic being brought up, both of them have their own OP protagonist but the difference between them is night and day the deeper you dive into their story.

I'll try my best to avoid spoiler but here's basically how it feel like to me reading both of them, while Solo Leveling has good concept going for it back at its time, you slowly notice that the environment and characters around the MC are getting more and more obsolete the more you read into it, and at some point it's mostly just him aura farming in my eyes, the author basically shot themselves on the foot when they made Jinwoo pretty much immortal about half way in the story thanks to how his power works along with the unlimited amount of money that he can use to buy mana potion, worse off no one but him can "level up" because of the world setting they did at the start of the story, so it ended up with his opponent will keep getting stronger to catch up with him and maybe give him a bit of a challenge while pretty much every single character will just stand there and watch him duke it out and glaze him to no end.

In Latna Saga, the MC earned that power, he didn't just work hard to get his insane strength at the start, he literally become insane and unhinged to get that strength, heck he even made his own cope mechanism just to be able to wield them, and it doesn't show at the start, but you get more hints about it as you keep reading and at some point you realize that his power isn't even exactly a good thing, he still has rooms to grow, his friends and enemies too, the world building is established solidly, the villains sometimes are one or two steps ahead of the main casts, they have their own development, back story and goals to focus on, it's not just about the MC.

I think the best way to sum it up would be that there's a vast difference between a story that have the world moves around the protagonist VS a story that have the protagonist adapting to the world they're in. It sounds so obvious yet a lot of manga that get published all have the world trying to adapt to the MC, and the one that are written otherwise usually get put back on the shelf, either because it's mainly to promote their novel, or they get axed for some reasons.
Agree with every bit.

I fell off SL exactly because of that, but I will admit, I had held up for quite some time before that... I think I stopped reading after he beat the crap of that american hunter, the strongest one, but I was already pretty tired of the loop that series has.

Personally.... I think SL only became so popular because of the art, but just like SAO, it has ingrained itself into the cultural zeitgeist, fortunately though... differently from SAO's time, people are a little wiser to that sinkhole.

I haven't read Latna Saga, I think I have seen it here and there, but admittedly again... thought it would be just more of the same, I will give it a try.

Oh, let me give a recommendation too... i found a few days ago a manhwa too, called (yes, it is a stupid name XD) The Regressed Mercenary has a Plan, believe it or not... it is AWESOME.

I would say it has the same level of fight choreography as Katainaka, and the story and characters are very good, I wholeheartedly recommend it.

And another too... The Greatest State Developer, this one... you will be short of breath from how funny it is.
 
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Did they butcher it, or did they base it on the novel, and the manga is just better than the origional source?

Remember, most adaptations (manga, anime, novels, comic books, etc) are based on the original source rather than other adaptations. It's just a lot simpler that way, business-wise (fewer people having a say, fewer people getting a cut) and often the adaptations are made in part to advertise the thing that's being adapted.
What you say is true, but i maintain my opinion they butchered it precisely because of what you said. The OG novel is much more dry than the manga, meaning they had a clear superior, and popular, material and a clear inferior example to choose from when they decided the base of the anime, they chose wrong. As such, even if the anime was an attempt to promote the story, it probably failed as well, as people might now be less likely to read the novel or even pick up the manga.
 
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Coming back to this after finishing the anime and damn its such a stark difference. I love the manga and the only thing the anime got right was the sword fighting.
 
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Agree with every bit.

I fell off SL exactly because of that, but I will admit, I had hell for quite some time before that... I think I stopped reading after he beat the crap of that american hunter, the strongest one, but I was already pretty tired of the loop that series has.

Personally.... I think SL only became so popular because of the art, but just like SAO, it has ingrained itself into the cultural zeitgeist, fortunately though... differently from SAO's time, people are a little wiser to that sinkhole.

I haven't read Latna Saga, I think I have seen it here and there, but admittedly again... thought it would be just more of the same, I will give it a try.

Oh, let me give a recommendation too... i found a few days ago a manhwa too, called (yes, it is a stupid name XD) The Regressed Mercenary has a Plan, believe it or not... it is AWESOME.

I would say it has the same level of fight choreography as Katainaka, and the story and characters are very good, I wholeheartedly recommend it.

And another too... The Greatest State Developer, this one... you will be short of breath from how funny it is.
I have read both, love them a lot, and still waiting for new chapter lol

I also have been reading What a Bountiful Harvest, Demon Lord!, it's the prequel to The Greatest State Developer so you know how it will be :lol:
 
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I have read both, love them a lot, and still waiting for new chapter lol

I also have been reading What a Bountiful Harvest, Demon Lord!, it's the prequel to The Greatest State Developer so you know how it will be :lol:
Wait... seriously?

Oh man, I have seen that one around but didn't connect the dots, going to read it now.

Thanks for the heads up.
 
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As much as I want to be surprised that the anime (which isnt very good) is getting a 2nd season, I simple cant since series like Rent a Girlfriend is getting 4+… Like if the worst manga ever can get that then its no wonder this is getting a 2nd season
 
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Man, I expected the shadow-swordsman to be Beryl's equal (exactly his equal, because it's the shadow of him) but I didn't expect him to be so outmatched.

Even with a bunch of mages spamming magic to try to keep it contained, he almost got cut in half.
If it was one-v-one... I don't think he'd have made it.
 
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i think the real question is how many of them are women
Judging from this series, the majority.
We do see that he's trained at least two dudes (the blacksmith and the married ex-adventurer who took over Beryl's old job as instructor) so it wasn't a complete.. clam fest? Whatever the girl version of a sausage party is.
 
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Judging from this series, the majority.
We do see that he's trained at least two dudes (the blacksmith and the married ex-adventurer who took over Beryl's old job as instructor) so it wasn't a complete.. clam fest? Whatever the girl version of a sausage party is.
I think Clam fest or clambake may be the correct term, yes.

googles Several of the results suggest Clambake is the more common term.
 
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Shadow style! Kagebunshin!

Also, i know it's been commented ad nauseium in previous comment section, but... HOLY SHEEEET! How they BUTCHERED the anime, one of the worst adaptations i've seen.
It's not butchered if the adaptation not from manga
Let me get this straight. The LN was barely of note and its sales were tanking, while the manga is the version that put this story in the spotlight and its sales reaching top 10 in oricon, yet they choose to make an anime adaptation based on the LN?
Do jap executives enjoy losing money?
Basically like that, missing opportunity to the max. And yet, they decide to make second season of it
 
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It's not butchered if the adaptation not from manga
That's precisely why i say they butchered it. Why adapt from the novel that is dry and has no popularity when they could have used the manga that is leagues ahead. It was a choice, a very very bad one.
 
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When Faustes was talking and my man was locked in... Chills

Also that was the GOAT sword saint Yclept ya? And Beryl traded his flank for a foot... Pssh for someone so humble mans got moves fr fr
 
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Wasn't it implied last chapter to be a shadow of Sword Saint?
When was that? I don't remember them really implying anything about what would come out of Ambrosia, aside from it being something meant to match the skill of the one who approaches.

It's possible that it's someone random (like a past sword saint), but with them making a point of not knowing who it is, it feels like they're implying it's someone related to Beryl (and if he doesn't know them, despite them being that strong, it's probably just him).
It was two chapters ago, not last chapter, it was in Faust's memories of talking with the Magic Division Commander in the Rono room, she stated that she had been beaten once by a swordsman, and the sword that was shown during that was almost identical to the shadow swordsman weapon. It isn't stated explicitly that it was a shadow of the sword saint, but it is heavily implied through the imagery that it is a shadow of a previous sword saint, maybe even the one that beat the commander. I even hypothesized that it copied Beryl himself.
 
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It was two chapters ago, not last chapter, it was in Faust's memories of talking with the Magic Division Commander in the Rono room, she stated that she had been beaten once by a swordsman, and the sword that was shown during that was almost identical to the shadow swordsman weapon. It isn't stated explicitly that it was a shadow of the sword saint, but it is heavily implied through the imagery that it is a shadow of a previous sword saint, maybe even the one that beat the commander. I even hypothesized that it copied Beryl himself.
Gotcha, thanks. Been a while.
 
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in my opnion, just as i sais in the last chapter, there is only three people who the gem couldve thought to emulate. Beryl himself, a previous swordmaster, or Beryl's father. Im really hoping it was Beryl's father
 
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Let me get this straight. The LN was barely of note and its sales were tanking, while the manga is the version that put this story in the spotlight and its sales reaching top 10 in oricon, yet they choose to make an anime adaptation based on the LN?
Do jap executives enjoy losing money?
I was going to have a look but these comments remind me of the “I’m a spider so what?” 🤣🤣 I was so hyped with that one too, so I’ll lower my expectation thanks!
 
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