Sorry, I forgot about appearance in ch. 39 and was thinking of the previous appearance and how I interpretted it.
Absolutely, but you're ignoring the one thing which I covered in the part about why political relations was necessary; the raw materials. Yes, they speedran to what they have now, which is largely salvaged from the wreckage that made it to the surface. To build anything new, they need more raw materials, and the facilities to fabricate them all; smelters, machine shops, warehouse storage, security for it all, communications networks for all those computers to run themselves and each other, logistical infrastructure, etc. This world doesn't have the logistical capabilities he needs, so he has to establish all of that from the ground up. Can't just pull all that out of thin air, they need to be built. And plain spit, guts, and good intentions make for poor load-bearing walls.
He important part here isn't how she got past the guns here (although that's absolute bull crap that she did), it's that she did it undetected. Iris has drones monitoring literally the entire world, there's no way she can get past detection while leading a group that has no clue what's going on. Even if they somehow escaped detection up until that point, there's no way Iris would not find it weird that the automated defenses just shot something, you would check something like that, and seeing a dead rabbit fly out at man height obviously means someone's testing your defenses. She's not from the empire because Iris would be able to detect if another ship was present or had landed recently.
This isn't random trivia that would have no impact on future decisions (whether he knows about the marriage or not its still happening), this is security being compromised by spies when you are trying to keep everything hidden for as long as possible, this is potential assassination attempts, this is saboteurs, this isn't something you keep hidden from Alan about for fun.
The "goddess" AI has been shown to be able to directly interact with Alan already, there's no point in using a flesh and blood agent to pass on information, and if there was a need it could use literally anyone that isn't hostile to Alan. Also if it could do that in the first place, then it could have started a technological upheavel itself instead of helping along a third party that arrived a few millenia after it.
That is my tought too, or something similar, like as if her family by a few generations have landed there and built roots there, trying to get away from all this chaos with the Alien Bugs.
My guess is that in such schedule it was included the needed materials, who knows, perhaps some of its materials may not exist in this planet and alternatives must me synthetized from zero, or the blueprints must be changed due to it, or perhaps even if such materials exist they must be rare to find or demands an extreme quantity, however, I do agree, hundreds of years is too much of a stretch, and if they reached such point, why can't they just make a communucation device and call for help instead ?
My theory is that the spy getting in may have been intended by Iris and acknowledged by Alan, of course that someone would sent a scouting party to check Alan new domain, that much was implied and only a matter of time, allowing the Spy to come and go, monitor their actions, and if such info results into conflict, it is a bonus, it turn Alan from an agressor into someone self-defending their domain, making his actions legit under the eyes of his people and putting forward the plan to conquer the Planet.
It's not Dr. Stone to have to start from smashing rocks together, we have basic technology to kickstart everything.
Yeah i agree with that too, i think they hinted its coming eventually. maybe at the end of this arc
Fair point however, while coal may be a initial energy source, they could also try Thermal, nuclear, solar, etc..If these materials can be found in the space they can still collect and find them so that's good.
Bad thing is before that they will have to operate mainly on the surface before making a station in space and a large scale dock station which is required to produce the reactor.
All while operating on coal power plants mind you, because they have no other power source on the planet
Also they would need to drop them on the ground or transport to processing plant which first has to be built and secured from any intrusion. To produce iron you first need the means to process it too, after which you can produce more durable stuff and loop it until you can finally process the rare metals.
All while managing on the side infrastructure and making more coal power plants where they burn monster carcasses
After all that is done, they need to start making complex things and start building rockets/transport to the space before building the docks. After docks they build reactor and facility for subspace communication.
Everything operating on Iris' processing mainframe which deteriorates over time and its processor modules have to be replaced by, mind you, a human. She may hit a power saving mode and reduce the usage of her cores but still if she won't start making replacements her brain will die as if she were a human.
Seeing as Iris doesn't know what to do with the defective processor modules but Alan has an idea may suggest that the Empire in fact is quite wasteful which won't may cloud Iris' on how to properly manage her deteriorating assets and might just throw away a module that can work with little fix.
All in all Before we start making complex devices we will waste quite a bit of processing power on making tools and management of stuff so to provide endless working cycle Iris will not run away from the need of producing processors, which require rare metals, on her own.
Not entirely sure why they would take hundreds of years to make that, but taking into account that they need cold sleep for travel and the fact that nearest survey from the empire will be in 1200 years may suggest that the Empire's border or survey vessels are far enough for the signal to travel long time, before even the ships with the rescue mission start moving. So if the distance is long enough but we can build a subspace communication device, let's say the more power it has the further the distance can travel in shorter time, it increases possibilities.
And mind you she will work on power saving mode. She is a ship's management AI with mainframe strong enough to manage combat and whole ship but not a city management AI with mainframe strong enough to handle infrastructure projects, production, planning AND managing the wreckage of a ship on top of that.
No matter how advanced AI, CPU will hit its limit sooner or later which will lag everything down.
There's no mention of what class ship it is, but seeing as the crew is 1200, while googling some aircraft carriers shows the crew 3000 people, some WWII battleships of 2000 people and modern cruisers of 700 may give an inkling of a size and capabilities of such vessel.
*Assuming the bugs are the bugs because they are many and of low quality, meanwhile Empire is all about quality of their ships: I'd guess its class may most likely be a cruiser or small battleship possibly with capabilities of landing a small task force on a planet of around 400 or so people, which then became lightweight destroyer's CPU linked with some limited production capabilities for the sake of its own maintenance.
*(Assumption based on how Iris explains possible outcome of a battle with the bug's fleet of 1 vs 16).
Ofc it's all my guesstimating based on my limited knowledge of what I googled and conjured within 5 minutes. Still, it doesn't strike me as the most powerful vessel in the fleet of the Empire.
After all it's an armed exploration vessel.
R there are many alternatives, but of course it will take time, but hundreds of years ? Nahh..
Solar is too inefficient for production centers. Look at Germany right now and working up their coal power plants because they closed down their nuclear ones LMAO. But yeah nuclear and stuff is valid, although the power source does not matter much, what matters is the need for one since they can't produce it out of nowhere.
Yes, but that's also another step they need to make and supervise.
Yes if it's simple stuff then yes, otherwise no. If it's about surveying, checking the materials, testing the products, devising the long term strategy and applying corrections when needed it's all a task for a Human or an AI and if the AI could be run on simple stuff, China wouldn't have bothered about acquiring Nvidia cards even after they were banned from doing so.
Of course! Nobody is stopping them! I don't mean to say they can't do that, they can even run on coal for all I care.
That's an AI going rogue. As I said in my other reply to someone else:
She says she has to take orders from a Human. However circumstances of her saying that were quite interesting. She said that when everybody except Alan died, saying:
Solar is too inefficient for production centers. Look at Germany right now and working up their coal power plants because they closed down their nuclear ones LMAO. But yeah nuclear and stuff is valid, although the power source does not matter much, what matters is the need for one since they can't produce it out of nowhere.
Also keep in mind using multiple sources of power means increasing your maintenance costs through the roof.
By building one type, for example coal or nuclear, you will only have to keep and produce spare parts and repair only for those. If you add thermal and solar your maintenance increases even more.
Yes, but that's also another step they need to make and supervise.
Yes if it's simple stuff then yes, otherwise no. If it's about surveying, checking the materials, testing the products, devising the long term strategy and applying corrections when needed it's all a task for a Human or an AI and if the AI could be run on simple stuff, China wouldn't have bothered about acquiring Nvidia cards even after they were banned from doing so.
Of course! Nobody is stopping them! I don't mean to say they can't do that, they can even run on coal for all I care.
What I mean by transport being an issue is that it has to be operated either by humans or by an AI (even if we build railroads and maintain them). If by an AI it further deteriorates the mainframe. Another task means another decrease in efficiency, possibly lagging the system, increase in the processor usage and deterioration.
So we have on the processes:
- Surveying.
- Extraction of raw materials (drills may run on simple chips, but AI has to decide where to drill).
- Building facilities.
- Patrolling and securing the facilities.
- Quality checks for production.
- Production maintenance (what and how to fix).
- All form transportation.
- Refining various types of fuel (and in case of uranium also enrichment) and its distribution.
- Producing power from various sources and managing power plants.
- Providing infrastructure and distributing power to facilities.
- Keeping mainframe in pristine condition.
- Strategy planning.
- Natural disaster management.
Every new thing is two to three more things to supervise.
Since she will not be able to drop any of the old processes since she will need them continuously until the day she sends signal and possibly set up defenses for a fight, it won't be as simple as it was in Dr. Stone when he made one thing, then repurposed his previous tool/machine to a new one and made another thing. And when needed he repurposed it back again (with the help of his craftsman friends).
That's an AI going rogue. As I said in my other reply to someone else:
She says she has to take orders from a Human. However circumstances of her saying that were quite interesting. She said that when everybody except Alan died, saying:
- "Usually the captain of a Galaxy-class Battleship is mostly a commodore, but since you are the only one left alive"
- "An AI such as I must receive human orders".
(Oh she mentions the class actually, so I updated my previous statement but it's still at best a "mid class" battleship imho)
So in case there's no other human left alive (or Alan gave her back the permission for cloning) and her orders were to go back or report at all cost, then there's the possibility of her actually practicing human cloning, otherwise I still think it's the start of a
It isn't and will never be a good option for Iris to clone them.
You're missing something about the filters, a computer AI is the one filtering that information out for the human operators. Iris is an AI, the one doing the filtering. On limited processing power of Iris, she is literally recording random conversations in bars around the world. You want to say she can't be bothered to check the shots of weapons that are throwing out lethal force in an area where civilians were recently introduced to and can potentially wander in to the firing arcs of?
