Kuse Tsuyo Kanojo wa Toko ni Izanau - Vol. 4 Ch. 20.6

[HirugashiX]

I mean, i agree with you the fact that the author really likes playing with uncertainty and misunderstandings is an objective point, there isn't much to debate there. My point is more that, if that actually happened, it would be a plot hole impossible to justify, and Higurashi explained it perfectly here:

In a shonen rom-com, even if there’s some drama, it's impossible to justify the "I like Nao, but since I don't want to lose him because of the lust, I'm going to suck someone else's dick and fuck him in a hotel" logic (and I’m spelling it out in detail so you can see just how stupid that argument is). I mean, the premise itself is a logical contradiction: if you were very sad when Nao caught you kissing another guy, and he avoided you for days because of it, what do you think will happen if he catches you having sex with someone else?

As I said, that reduces Luna to someone who acts based on assumptions she’s cooked up entirely in her own head:
"If I tell Nao how I feel, I MIGHT lose him."
"If I tell Nao I want to have sex with him, I MIGHT lose him."

How do you know? Have you asked him? In fact, you know perfectly well what Nao feels for you, or, at least, you have a good idea about it.

That’s why I say she fits the classic trope of the brainless heroine who acts based on assumptions and fears instead of using her head. Obviously, that’s distinct from NTR doujins, those are a completely different story.

I understand Shinya78’s point, and I agree that drama is good for shounen rom-coms too. It creates tension and gives viewers a reason to keep following the story.

But if she actually did sleep with some random guy, I honestly can’t see and probably never will understand why this specific kind of drama is good or necessary for the story. I get that the author probably wanted to push the MC into confessing to the FMC, so they needed some kind of catalyst, but there are so many other ways to do that lol.

And again, I still think this is probably just bait from the author. Like Shinya78 said, the author’s wording never explicitly confirms that anything actually happened. It seems deliberately written to make us think it happened and jump to that conclusion, rather than actually stating it outright.

Basically, I have no problem with the author using ambiguity and misunderstandings to create tension. My issue is specifically with the idea that the most extreme interpretation actually happened, because I don’t think that would make much sense for either the story or the characters.

 

[Magno94]

I understand Shinya78’s point, and I agree that drama is good for shounen rom-coms too. It creates tension and gives viewers a reason to keep following the story.

But if she actually did sleep with some random guy, I honestly can’t see and probably never will understand why this specific kind of drama is good or necessary for the story. I get that the author probably wanted to push the MC into confessing to the FMC, so they needed some kind of catalyst, but there are so many other ways to do that lol.

And again, I still think this is probably just bait from the author. Like Shinya78 said, the author’s wording never explicitly confirms that anything actually happened. It seems deliberately written to make us think it happened and jump to that conclusion, rather than actually stating it outright.

Basically, I have no problem with the author using ambiguity and misunderstandings to create tension. My issue is specifically with the idea that the most extreme interpretation actually happened, because I don’t think that would make much sense for either the story or the characters.

Sure, well-executed and consistent drama adds interest to the plot, but always while respecting the series' tags (they exist for a reason, right?) and your target audience (teenagers, in this case).

 

[HirugashiX]

Sure, well-executed and consistent drama adds interest to the plot, but always while respecting the series' tags (they exist for a reason, right?) and your target audience (teenagers, in this case).

Yeah, that’s the perfect way to say it.

 

[shinya78]

I mean, i agree with you the fact that the author really likes playing with uncertainty and misunderstandings is an objective point, there isn't much to debate there. My point is more that, if that actually happened, it would be a plot hole impossible to justify, and Higurashi explained it perfectly here:

In a shonen rom-com, even if there’s some drama, it's impossible to justify the "I like Nao, but since I don't want to lose him because of the lust, I'm going to suck someone else's dick and fuck him in a hotel" logic (and I’m spelling it out in detail so you can see just how stupid that argument is). I mean, the premise itself is a logical contradiction: if you were very sad when Nao caught you kissing another guy, and he avoided you for days because of it, what do you think will happen if he catches you having sex with someone else?

As I said, that reduces Luna to someone who acts based on assumptions she’s cooked up entirely in her own head:
"If I tell Nao how I feel, I MIGHT lose him."
"If I tell Nao I want to have sex with him, I MIGHT lose him."

How do you know? Have you asked him? In fact, you know perfectly well what Nao feels for you, or, at least, you have a good idea about it.

That’s why I say she fits the classic trope of the brainless heroine who acts based on assumptions and fears instead of using her head. Obviously, that’s distinct from NTR doujins, those are a completely different story.

I agreed with you that it's a stupid development time and time again. In a normal setting, this would be impossible to justify. I also told you time and time again that Luna isn't thinking rationally, and logically. Her "devotion" to him being his "Big Sis Luna-nee", is fueled by her fear of losing him. The tag does not necessarily mean "devotion" or "loyalty" in the standard Western sense. Remember, this is a Japanese work, with Japanese culture baked right in to it.

Let me paint a picture for you. It could get lengthy, but please don't skim it. Where'd I get all of this? WRITTEN BACKSTORY, and what is in-between the lines. What's the second part, gen alpha asks? That's called reading comprehension, which is apparently in decline in that generation.

Imagine the young Luna, growing up with years of parental abandonment and with no one to be there for her, now coming to the countryside and having the best time of her life being an older sister to her younger relative, becoming "Big Sis Luna" to her "Nao-kun". She does not want to be separated from him, he is The Sun to Her Moon (cuz Luna, get it?), he is the only thing in world that brings her happiness.

Then one day "The Incident" occured, they get separated from one another for 10 long years, her own happiness slips away from her hands. The young Naoto asks his mother why his "Big Sis Luna" isn't showing up anymore, but his mother refuses to tell him anything, only that he is too young to understand.

They reunite 10 years later, Luna gets her "Lil Bro Nao-kun" back, and treats him how she treated him back in the past, hoping to get back to the way they used to be all those years ago, back to the happiest time of her life. But things are no longer the same, her "Lil Bro Nao-kun" is now an adult, and he makes her realize this fact slowly but surely. Naoto then slowly peels away at the facade that is "Big Sis Luna-nee", with "Luna" coming out more and more. Luna herself is willing to give her "Lil Bro Nao-kun" herself as "Big Sis Luna-nee", but she can't give him "Luna". The question now is, why?

Naoto continues to confront "Luna" until she got caught masturbating. Luna tells him that she's been hiding secrets from him, afraid that if he knew about them, he would hate her for it. One of which, is the reason why she was separated from him 10 years ago. "Luna"'s secrets are revealed slowly one after another. At one point of proving himself to "Luna", he hugs her to make his feelings for her known. "Luna" says she understood "Nao-kun's" feelings, but Naoto notices that she still sees the ghost of "Lil Bro Nao-kun" of the past. This does not deter Naoto whatsoever, as "Luna" is getting more exposure over her "Big Sis Luna-nee" persona. "Luna" clings on to him, hoping that the "Nao-kun" of Today would be be able to accept "Luna", that things will work out this time. Their distance shortens physically, and her libido is grows more and more intense as she gets horny for "Nao-kun" easier more and more in the short time "Luna" revealed herself to him.

We are now at the current chapter, spoiler shields up. Luna, by her own volition, kisses Naoto to overwrite Mimi's kiss on him. One could say this is "Luna" staking her claim, that "Nao-kun" is hers. Luna's realization that she's becoming "Luna" more and more and not Nao-kun's "Big Sis Luna" hits her. Whatever happened that caused the "Nao-kun" of the Past not accept "Luna" then hits her. This one urge she wants to get rid of, the urge that the readers don't know the true face of, caused her to be separated from him before. She stops at nothing to get rid of this urge, to become "Big Sis Luna" once again, so Naoto won't be separated from her once again, so she could be happy once again. But for some reason, it involves meeting with a man that she matched up with in a hotel. Naoto confronts Luna, and Luna lets it out that she met with the man only once to get something out of her system. Naoto then crosses the line that Luna herself dared not to cross in her fears of him leaving her once again, and asks Luna, if she needed to meet with someone to get something out of her system, would that someone be he himself instead, would he suffice.

The side comments at the end of the latest chapters hints that the two are like ships passing in the night. There's a misunderstanding right there, we just don't have enough solid evidence to figure out where. I'm not one to draw conclusions without concrete evidence to back it up, because in this manga anything can happen. As always.

 

[Magno94]

I agreed with you that it's a stupid development time and time again. In a normal setting, this would be impossible to justify. I also told you time and time again that Luna isn't thinking rationally, and logically. Her "devotion" to him being his "Big Sis Luna-nee", is fueled by her fear of losing him. The tag does not necessarily mean "devotion" or "loyalty" in the standard Western sense. Remember, this is a Japanese work, with Japanese culture baked right in to it.

Let me paint a picture for you. It could get lengthy, but please don't skim it. Where'd I get all of this? WRITTEN BACKSTORY, and what is in-between the lines. What's the second part, gen alpha asks? That's called reading comprehension, which is apparently in decline in that generation.



The side comments at the end of the latest chapters hints that the two are like ships passing in the night. There's a misunderstanding right there, we just don't have enough solid evidence to figure out where. I'm not one to draw conclusions without concrete evidence to back it up, because in this manga anything can happen. As always.

"and asks Luna, if she needed to meet with someone to get something out of her system, would that someone be he himself instead, would he suffice."

Setting aside the need to clear up the misunderstanding, if we look closely at that part, it’s clear that Nao is heartbroken and disappointed with her. It’s as if, within that very message, he were also telling her:

"Why someone else and not me? I think we both know how we feel about each other."

Now that Nao has decided to cross that line, if Luna rejects him, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts avoiding her again and spending more time with his other childhood friend. Deserved, btw xD

And honestly, it really gets under my skin when the MC or FMC starts acting based on assumptions and scenarios they’ve cooked up in their heads.

 

[Wyrm666]

I agreed with you that it's a stupid development time and time again. In a normal setting, this would be impossible to justify. I also told you time and time again that Luna isn't thinking rationally, and logically. Her "devotion" to him being his "Big Sis Luna-nee", is fueled by her fear of losing him. The tag does not necessarily mean "devotion" or "loyalty" in the standard Western sense. Remember, this is a Japanese work, with Japanese culture baked right in to it.

Let me paint a picture for you. It could get lengthy, but please don't skim it. Where'd I get all of this? WRITTEN BACKSTORY, and what is in-between the lines. What's the second part, gen alpha asks? That's called reading comprehension, which is apparently in decline in that generation.



The side comments at the end of the latest chapters hints that the two are like ships passing in the night. There's a misunderstanding right there, we just don't have enough solid evidence to figure out where. I'm not one to draw conclusions without concrete evidence back it up, because in this manga anything can happen. As always.

What you wrote makes sense.

Luna is starting to like Naoto as a man and not as a little brother. And it's not just fuzzy feelings. She lusts for him.

So it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that she decides to quench her thirst by sleeping with a rando.

Only... she also knows how Nao-kun got hurt and avoided her after he saw her kissing a boy.

Knowing that, she wants to have sex with another guy? Like you said, we don't even know if that's the itch she wanted to scratch. It's Naoto's imagination doing all the legwork here.

Luna having sex with a rando as an attempt to tone down her urges for Naoto isn't completely out of left field.

But she wants to tone down those urges precisely because she doesn't want to lose him like before.

And what was one of the things that not only hurt Naoto but also contributed to them being apart?

That is why I cannot believe she would do the very thing that, based on what she knows, drove a wedge between them before.

Once again, allowing someone to come between them seems like something Luna, with or without the -nee, simply wouldn't do at this point unless the story suddenly veers into trauma patterns and sex addiction plot points.

 

[shinya78]

"and asks Luna, if she needed to meet with someone to get something out of her system, would that someone be he himself instead, would he suffice."

Setting aside the need to clear up the misunderstanding, if we look closely at that part, it’s clear that Nao is heartbroken and disappointed with her. It’s as if, within that very message, he were also telling her:

"Why someone else and not me? I think we both know how we feel about each other."

Now that Nao has decided to cross that line, if Luna rejects him, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts avoiding her again and spending more time with his other childhood friend. Deserved, btw xD

And honestly, it really gets under my skin when the MC or FMC starts acting based on assumptions and scenarios they’ve cooked up in their heads.

Spoiler: Chapter 25.2, page labeled 33~36

Luna: I'll be taking a bath, and then sleep!
Naoto: ...Me too.
Luna: ...Eh?
Naoto: Me too... I'm pent up.
Luna: What are you talking about...
Naoto: [To this day... I thought that Luna-nee having someone is something that it couldn't be helped.]
Naoto: [It's Luna-nee's freedom to do so... and that I don't have a say in it]
Naoto: [But this time...]
I don't think the way that I used to anymore
Luna: Nao-kun......?
Naoto: If you wanted to blow off some steam...
Naoto "crosses the line"
Naoto: Why not...... me?
Luna: ---Eh?

I doubt it, this is growth for Naoto as a character. Up until this point of him crossing the line, he always runs away, avoid, or stays at a distance. If he avoids her again should she reject him, then all the determination that he built up to this point is all but null.

Once again, allowing someone to come between them seems like something Luna, with or without the -nee, simply wouldn't do at this point unless the story suddenly veers into trauma patterns and sex addiction plot points.

Well, we have bits of trauma patterns sprinkled in her backstory, I don't know why but the mainstream it seems downplays the trauma of depression that loneliness causes to a growing child, so we have something to work with here at least.

 

[OldVice]

I agreed with you that it's a stupid development time and time again. In a normal setting, this would be impossible to justify. I also told you time and time again that Luna isn't thinking rationally, and logically. Her "devotion" to him being his "Big Sis Luna-nee", is fueled by her fear of losing him. The tag does not necessarily mean "devotion" or "loyalty" in the standard Western sense. Remember, this is a Japanese work, with Japanese culture baked right in to it.

Let me paint a picture for you. It could get lengthy, but please don't skim it. Where'd I get all of this? WRITTEN BACKSTORY, and what is in-between the lines. What's the second part, gen alpha asks? That's called reading comprehension, which is apparently in decline in that generation.

Since most of the characters in this series are basically a closed book in regards to their inner thoughts and feelings, we're left to guess about the inner turmoil that's going on inside them. So yeah, we don't know what she's actually thinking about, or how she thinks what she's doing is going to resolve the further inner conflict she has going on inside her.

It's possible that she feels like she can't let go of their "sibling" relationship because she thinks it's the only thing that is keeping them together and anything more than that is too much for her to ask for and moving past that would drive them apart forever.

The side comments at the end of the latest chapters hints that the two are like ships passing in the night. There's a misunderstanding right there, we just don't have enough solid evidence to figure out where. I'm not one to draw conclusions without concrete evidence to back it up, because in this manga anything can happen. As always.

I wonder if this is somewhat of a reference to how they're both physically together, but their true/inner feelings aren't reaching each other.

I'm just going to toss out a couple other thoughts right now as well.

It's entirely possible that Naoto loves Luna as both "Luna-nee" and "Luna" the woman, as two things can be true at the same time. We know he had / was developing feelings for her as a child, but they probably weren't taken seriously because he was a child. If we go back to chapter 3.2, we notice a ring inside the box of her "precious things" that Luna was given to by Naoto. It makes me think that Naoto may have promised to marry Luna when he was a kid (and was serious about it), but it got treated as normal kid talk. Who knows if Naoto remembers this or not though.

"and asks Luna, if she needed to meet with someone to get something out of her system, would that someone be he himself instead, would he suffice."

Setting aside the need to clear up the misunderstanding, if we look closely at that part, it’s clear that Nao is heartbroken and disappointed with her. It’s as if, within that very message, he were also telling her:

"Why someone else and not me? I think we both know how we feel about each other."

Now that Nao has decided to cross that line, if Luna rejects him, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts avoiding her again and spending more time with his other childhood friend. Deserved, btw xD

And honestly, it really gets under my skin when the MC or FMC starts acting based on assumptions and scenarios they’ve cooked up in their heads.

What you wrote makes sense.

Luna is starting to like Naoto as a man and not as a little brother. And it's not just fuzzy feelings. She lusts for him.

So it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that she decides to quench her thirst by sleeping with a rando.

Only... she also knows how Nao-kun got hurt and avoided her after he saw her kissing a boy.

Knowing that, she wants to have sex with another guy? Like you said, we don't even know if that's the itch she wanted to scratch. It's Naoto's imagination doing all the legwork here.

Luna having sex with a rando as an attempt to tone down her urges for Naoto isn't completely out of left field.

But she wants to tone down those urges precisely because she doesn't want to lose him like before.

And what was one of the things that not only hurt Naoto but also contributed to them being apart?

That is why I cannot believe she would do the very thing that, based on what she knows, drove a wedge between them before.

Once again, allowing someone to come between them seems like something Luna, with or without the -nee, simply wouldn't do at this point unless the story suddenly veers into trauma patterns and sex addiction plot points.

This is why I'm starting to lean a bit into my second theory about what may have happened and she started to think of / project Naoto onto whoever she was meeting with and ended the encounter before anything happened. This only holds water if the meeting was indeed sexual in nature.

 

[MrPP118]

"and asks Luna, if she needed to meet with someone to get something out of her system, would that someone be he himself instead, would he suffice."

Setting aside the need to clear up the misunderstanding, if we look closely at that part, it’s clear that Nao is heartbroken and disappointed with her. It’s as if, within that very message, he were also telling her:

"Why someone else and not me? I think we both know how we feel about each other."

Now that Nao has decided to cross that line, if Luna rejects him, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts avoiding her again and spending more time with his other childhood friend. Deserved, btw xD

And honestly, it really gets under my skin when the MC or FMC starts acting based on assumptions and scenarios they’ve cooked up in their heads.

I'm not sure Luna will outright reject him, regardless of what happened or what didn't happen at the hotel, she's not been able to stop thinking about him, now all of a sudden Naoto is going on the offensive and she hasn't been able to get away from him because of that.

It would be nice if they finally did the deed next chapter but more than anything I'm expecting Luna to come clean with a few things or atleast start to but one way or another I don't think we're going back to the status quo, Naoto's basically made it clear he's fine with being sexual with her.

If Luna rejects him, I don't see Naoto giving up, he might go to the other girls but that would be for advice, he's only interested in Luna and let's say if Naoto does start spending more time with the other girls, Luna will probably cave in and speak to him.

 

[Magno94]

she started to think of / project Naoto onto whoever she was meeting with and ended the encounter before anything happened.

Well, that is important.

Assuming the encounter with the random guy was sexual. If Luna is capable of having sex with a random guy without thinking about Nao or feeling bad about him, it means she actually feels very little, or nothing, for Nao and is just toying with his feelings (because she knows very well what he feels for her).

If her lust is stronger than her feelings for Nao and she can't control it, then there's a problem.

 

[HirugashiX]

Well, that is important.

Assuming the encounter with the random guy was sexual. If Luna is capable of having sex with a random guy without thinking about Nao or feeling bad about him, it means she actually feels very little, or nothing, for Nao and is just toying with his feelings (because she knows very well what he feels for her).

If her lust is stronger than her feelings for Nao and she can't control it, then there's a problem.

What do you think if she actually did slept with a random guy but after Naoto confessed to her they finally became a couple. Would you be fine with something like that?

 

[OldVice]

Well, that is important.

Assuming the encounter with the random guy was sexual. If Luna is capable of having sex with a random guy without thinking about Nao or feeling bad about him, it means she actually feels very little, or nothing, for Nao and is just toying with his feelings (because she knows very well what he feels for her).

If her lust is stronger than her feelings for Nao and she can't control it, then there's a problem.

This is what leans into my third theory (that I hate) and after having a sexual encounter, nothing about her feelings towards Naoto changed and all she did was hurt herself and Naoto and created another secret that could cause a rift between them and cause her to lose Naoto, possibly for good this time.

It's also pretty clear at this point that she's still stuck in the past and thinks there's no possible way for Naoto to have romantic feelings for her and only see her as Luna-nee. This is even though his feelings are clearly romantic to everyone else except Luna, as we've seen Hiba trying to give them a push a few times, only to be met with resistance in the form of being only "Luna-nee" to Naoto.

 

[Magno94]

What do you think if she actually did slept with a random guy but after Naoto confessed to her they finally became a couple. Would you be fine with something like that?

No, as I’ve already explained, Luna having sex with some random guy at the hotel makes absolutely no sense from a narrative standpoint; it would reduce her to a "brainless heroine" who acts solely based on scenarios she cooks up in her own head. If Luna did that because she gets turned on thinking about Nao, that’s simply spitting in Nao’s face and toying his feelings, aside from the fact that it is a logical contradiction (you have feelings for Nao but you are able to have sex with other guy without feeling bad for him? It makes 0 sense).

 

[HirugashiX]

No, as I’ve already explained, Luna having sex with some random guy at the hotel makes absolutely no sense from a narrative standpoint; it would reduce her to a "brainless heroine" who acts solely based on scenarios she cooks up in her own head. If Luna did that because she gets turned on thinking about Nao, that’s simply spitting in Nao’s face and toying his feelings, aside from the fact that it is a logical contradiction (you have feelings for Nao but you are able to have sex with other guy without feeling bad for him? It makes 0 sense).

True, ultimately all she did was just hurt Naoto even more.

 

[Magno94]

This is what leans into my third theory (that I hate) and after having a sexual encounter, nothing about her feelings towards Naoto changed and all she did was hurt herself and Naoto and created another secret that could cause a rift between them and cause her to lose Naoto, possibly for good this time.

It's also pretty clear at this point that she's still stuck in the past and thinks there's no possible way for Naoto to have romantic feelings for her and only see her as Luna-nee. This is even though his feelings are clearly romantic to everyone else except Luna, as we've seen Hiba trying to give them a push a few times, only to be met with resistance in the form of being only "Luna-nee" to Naoto.

I don't think that will happen, and I hope it doesn't, because it would be too much drama for a shonen rom-com .

I sincerely hope this is a misunderstanding and that Nao’s decision to cross the line marks a turning point in their relationship, because if you really think about it... if Luna had sex with some random person just to keep her lust for Nao in check, aside from the fact that, as I’ve said, it makes no sense, it implies she could do it again, which would make the story even more absurd and hurt Nao even more.

 

[shinya78]

What do you think if she actually did slept with a random guy but after Naoto confessed to her they finally became a couple. Would you be fine with something like that?

I've seen this exact scenario play out way too many times in the real world in my days in Japan, that I've grown resistance and got desensitized to it. Reminder that some Japanese, both men and women, don't even consider hiring a prostitute for their services as cheating, and I've talked with a lot of them back in the day, both clients and workers.

For the story, I only hope it does not get there, unless there a REALLY GOOD REASON, because the author is going to get the KA treatment if it backfires.

I sincerely hope this is a misunderstanding and that Nao’s decision to cross the line marks a turning point in their relationship, because if you really think about it... if Luna had sex with some random person just to keep her lust for Nao in check, aside from the fact that, as I’ve said, it makes no sense, it implies she could do it again, which would make the story even more absurd and hurt Nao even more.

The in-universe "Luna is a slut" rumours that Kawashina and Ryuuji heard strikes again! Is it true? We don't know!

 

[Lex27]

Knowing Japanese culture, any other explanation than sex for Luna meeting a random guy from a dating app in a HOTEL ROOM to get rid of The Urge™ will be ridiculously far-fetched.

I'm 100% on Team Actual Slut. None of the other "baits" like her tongue-kissing the phantom guy at her door or the condom wrapper in her room got any resolution after dozens of chapters. At this point, I just think they aren't bait. Like her kissing her bf (did it ever say it was her bf and not just a sex friend?) or that one sus situation with her male classmates, when she told Naoto she'll teach him what they're doing once he's old enough.

How on Earth could the author explain all of these instances in a believable way without her being a loose woman?

Remember Grapara? Yeah, that was a romcom, allegedly. It kind of was comedic, in a sense, and ended in a romantic way, I guess. Don't trust the tags.

 

[Magno94]

Knowing Japanese culture, any other explanation than sex for Luna meeting a random guy from a dating app in a HOTEL ROOM to get rid of The Urge™ will be ridiculously far-fetched.

I'm 100% on Team Actual Slut. None of the other "baits" like her tongue-kissing the phantom guy at her door or the condom wrapper in her room got any resolution after dozens of chapters. At this point, I just think they aren't bait. Like her kissing her bf (did it ever say it was her bf and not just a sex friend?) or that one sus situation with her male classmates, when she told Naoto she'll teach him what they're doing once he's old enough.

How on Earth could the author explain all of these instances in a believable way without her being a loose woman?

Remember Grapara? Yeah, that was a romcom, allegedly. It kind of was comedic, in a sense, and ended in a romantic way, I guess. Don't trust the tags.

Comparing this to Grapara, since
Grapara's synopsis lists it as an "NTR romantic comedy"... 😭 😭 😭

 

[Lex27]

Comparing this to Grapara, since
Grapara's synopsis lists it as an "NTR romantic comedy"... 😭 😭 😭

Was it a rom-com in your eyes?

 

[OldVice]

I don't think that will happen, and I hope it doesn't, because it would be too much drama for a shonen rom-com .

I sincerely hope this is a misunderstanding and that Nao’s decision to cross the line marks a turning point in their relationship, because if you really think about it... if Luna had sex with some random person just to keep her lust for Nao in check, aside from the fact that, as I’ve said, it makes no sense, it implies she could do it again, which would make the story even more absurd and hurt Nao even more.

We're already testing the limits of good taste lately, so I'm also thinking/hoping this isn't the scenario that played out.

I've seen this exact scenario play out way too many times in the real world in my days in Japan, that I've grown resistance and got desensitized to it. Reminder that some Japanese, both men and women, don't even consider hiring a prostitute for their services as cheating, and I've talked with a lot of them back in the day, both clients and workers.

For the story, I only hope it does not get there, unless there a REALLY GOOD REASON, because the author is going to get the KA treatment if it backfires.


The in-universe "Luna is a slut" rumours that Kawashina and Ryuuji heard strikes again! Is it true? We don't know!

It's pretty easy to forget, or just not be aware that's how it works over there some times. From what I've heard from some of my Korean friends and old co-workers, it's somewhat similar there, or they lead me to believe that anyway. I've even had one of them try and invite me to a "massage parlour" a few times.