Kuu Neru Futari Sumu Futari - Vol. 2 Ch. 6 - Unavoidable Circumstance / First Night

[MangaDex]

 

[leechXlurk]

IDK why I feel their relationship is not healthy at all. 😑

 

[venerablemonster]

@leechXlurk probably because they barely communicate, and communication is kind of key to any sort of healthy relationship. Especially for one that's been going as long as this one, it's weird that it seems to be such a huge block for them.

Heck, he still hasn't clarified that he proposed to her, even though he now knows that she didn't realize it.

 

[Siikalahna]

@venerablemonster Don't forget that it's a japanese manga. At this point it seems like it's one of the requirements for a japanese manga to be published (be incapable of communicating and instead just swallow on self-pity and hatred, but still refuse to actually go ahead and deal with the issue)

 

[leechXlurk]

@venerablemonster Very true; IIRC all their issues in the prev. chs stemmed from lack of proper comm., didn't they? Wonder how they made it thru 10 years. 🤔

@Siikalahna Not really. https://mangadex.org/title/50029/renai-gokko-sayokyoku, https://mangadex.org/title/45824/first-comes-love-then-comes-marriage, etc hv couples comm. properly and clearly. As for those that rely on misunderstandings/lack of comm. to build up drama, they usually (not saying there aren't any that can actually do it well, but they're rare) turn out to be cliched trash.

 

[blueoddog]

Dang I feel for both of them

 

[eviljackspicer]

Lack of communication and it sounds like they are in a bit of a rut.

 

[Eeliejun]

Don't understand how their relationship survived for 10 years... They don't communicate with each other at all... Like I know it wants to be more real but this is just sigh because 90% of there problems can be solved by talking. Tbh, could complain a lot about this story but that would not add anything to the convo.

 

[Mivas]

They keep saying they love each other and all but tbh there relationship is pretty shitty.
Just change things or break up idk but that's kinda crazy how their relationship lasted 10 years. I feel like the guy specially is quite pitiful (not sure it's the right word but whatever). He is just there living his pitiful life (again not sure if it's the best word here, seems a bit too harsh maybe) thinking it will just keep going forever. I just hope I won't end up like him at this point.

 

[Cantaloupes]

i am really enjoying it and cant wait for the next chapter- i feel like its pretty realistic cause miscommunications do happen, regardless of how long you have been in a relationship.

 

[FredFriendly]

When Ritsuko was willing to give a guy at that goucon her phone number, I thought she was the big problem in their relationship. But now it's easy to see why she was so tempted to cheat on Shuichi and, frankly, now that it's clear what a limp biscuit he is, I can't blame her for feeling that way, though I'd still be pissed at her if she actually had without breaking up first. And that's exactly what they should do.

 

[staticshock328]

they dont need to break up, they just need to talk it out and maybe buy some viagra

 

[4cans]

thanks for the chapter

 

[Remixman87]

Lack of communication in Japanese couples it's more or less the norm because there is a environment of "respect" and "witholding themselves" that it's very ingrained in Japanese culture; once on reddit I saw a vid from a Japanese "category/special interviewer" show that showcased a certain problem in a household; that an older 50-60 ish couple (with fully grown sons) haven't spoken a single word between each other for over 20 years! The interviewer went to talk about the problem with each of the family members individually and they opened up on the subject like it's nothing out of the ordinary... to an interviewer that is broadcasting this to all of Japan. All in all it resulted that the father was extremely timid and it kinda resented her wife that she had to share her love & affection to their baby children! Even more when the interviewer spoke of this the couples' sons they replied "Oh! That's sooo Dad LOL!" And in the end the couple managed to speak up to each other for a bit... all in all while transmitted to Japanese TV!

It's a thing that can make you say "Japanese have different values & culture", but this is too over the top.

Here is the link if anyone wants to check it up too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/75anr4/japanese_husband_didnt_talk_to_his_wife_for_23/

 

[foist]

I really like this manga, but ugh what a sad cliffhanger, get it together man!

 

[sleepyknight]

yeah i don't get unhealthy relationship vibes from this? we dont see them talk out a lot of things bc they rarely actually take issue to things that occur, like i think the only potential conflict they've had prior to this was the mixer, and ritsuko hasn't been on any since then. if shed been going regularly and shuichi never brought it up it'd be a cause for concern, but they're feelings were actually in sync on that so it never really got to the point of needing a discussion. the dead bedroom is the first real issue that's been broached, and its one thats fairly typical for a long term relationship, furthermore its clear that they both care for each other, so im p sure they'll work it out

 

[Tensaitkuroneko]

How did they last a decade if they don't talk things out, and without any legal document or binding holding them? This is just nuts!!!

 

[HajimeteNHK]

- Well couple number 1, why are you together?
- Because we love each other deeply.

- And you couple number two?
- Physical attraction

- And you couple of this manga?
- Laziness, we didn't even try, it happened and it bothered us to do otherwise. Of course, maybe we don't have great sex, and maybe we almost never do it but on the other hand ... there is nothing else.

 

[Yourself]

Mood

 

[broadsword80]

"Why do you want to do it so much?" would be a valid question if she were GETTING ANY AT ALL.

This is such a basic and cornerstone component of a relationship that I'm really stretching my suspension of disbelief just imaging how the hell they've managed to stay together for 10 years. Could both sides have communicated better? Sure, but I think in this chapter the majority of the blame is on the guy.