Links to Aggregator Sites for Removed Series :rejected:

[sunsetchaos]

Since some groups have completely removed the chapters from this site, why not have some links/buttons to decent aggregator sites that have the series? Kinda like how there's a link/button to Novelupdates if there's a novel.
Edit: It seems people are somehow misunderstanding the word decent... by decent, I didn't mean moral or whatever crap (remember that this is still piracy in the end whether it's MD, scanlators, or aggregators). I simply meant a decent enough site to read the fking manga. Ads? Who cares, obviously an adblocker is mandatory which everyone should already have and using in 2019. The real shit sites like kissmanga that fuks with adblockers, that's a different story.

You also have the option of linking to the scanlators' sites... but why would you, you're not obligated nor expected to cater to those groups who cut all ties and no longer have anything to do with this site. The scanlators cares more about their own profit than about this site and us reader's convenience anyways so fuck it.

It would also save everyone the time of searching up on those sites anyways, which we already do now that we can't read here.

In other words,
Who does this benefit? Mainly the users/readers, a convenient feature for us. The aggregator site for those series. MD too possibly as users can still discuss here.
Who does this hurt? No one left to care. Seriously, those who mattered have already left themselves lmao.

A suggested site to start off would be Mangakakalot (sorry if I'm not allowed to mention names here, just edit and remove it), it's an alternative site I use and great site imo.

 

[seekermoc]

I think this would be a horrible idea. First off, what qualifies as a "decent" aggregator site? What if I think mangaXXX.com is better than the mangadex-linked site mangaYYY.com? Who decides which site gets linked to? What if this is viewed as mangadex sponsorship of the linked aggregator? What if more scanlation groups decide to leave because mangadex does something as douchey as linking to an ad-enabled for-profit aggregator to bypass their own policies on allowing groups to control their works?

If you're concerned about the missing series, just go to your personal alternate aggregator of choice and follow the series you're missing here. I know I have.

 

[sunsetchaos]

@seekermoc that's why it's only for the specific removed series with no chapters. It's more of a convenient feature/button and entirely optional, like how people could choose to click on NU button or not, they're not forced to go there, nor is anyone sponsoring NU. And it's not just 1 site, there could be a list of alternative sites or whatever. As for which sites qualify, that's entirely up to the admin/developer. Could even include the scanlator sites... but like I mentioned in my post above, why should they?

The groups still have full control for their works whether to upload on MD or remove them.
This is a suggestion feature for us readers, not a feature for them, this has nothing to do with them. It's their problem if they don't like it, since they already chose to remove the series and left. Simply fixing the mess they caused for us readers.

 

[FireFish5000]

I doubt MD would have been created if there were "decent" aggregator sites. After bato.to sold, we needed a new one. Here it is.

By most of the communities definition of "decent aggregator site", the aggregator would have to
1) Not remove credits page or add watermarks
2) Respect groups re-upload policies (like. do NOT re-upload anywhere ever... in which case they probably wont have it either)
3) Not be ad infested nor infected with bit-mining crap.
4) Not be owned by someone who also owns another aggregator site that does these, since they will likely follow the same path as they did before.

In short, in order for it to be respectable, the group has to have the ability to take credit for and remove it's own chapters. To this respect, MD is good. Dead groups may have a slight issue removing content, though I believe it is still resolvable.

Secondly, MD has no intention of supporting doggy aggregators, which adding links to their site would do. Seriously, the 49% of the community that came to MD after batoto died would be highly disappointed if they did.

 

[seekermoc]

@sunsetchaos
That's still a can of worms that shouldn't be opened. It will be viewed as validation that the groups who left were right to abandon the mangadex platform, because mangadex doesn't care about them. Who's going to trust the admin team here if they link to a site that ends up infecting mangadex readers with malware? What about the aggregators that aren't linked? Will they attempt to bribe/threaten/attack mangadex to make sure their site is one of the linked one, or that their competitors site is removed?

I can't see a single positive outcome of doing this. Again, it's not hard to perform a google search for a manga you want, and find dozens of aggregator sites to visit at your leisure. There's no reason mangadex needs to facilitate this directly.

 

[SuppeBargeld]

Even if there were a decent aggregator site, this would still be shitty move.

"Hey, those groups asked us to remove their scanlations, which we will do, because we respect scanlator's wishes. By the way, here is a link to a site that ripped their scanlation against their wishes, go read it there!"

 

[sunsetchaos]

Ok but seriously, what I don't understand is why people keep talking about ads. It's 2019 and everyone should be already using adblockers. You choose to click and go to sites at your own risk, more so without an adblocker. Obviously I'm not expecting a link to something like kissmanga that f with adblockers.

@firefish5000 Readers came from Batato to MD because MD was the best alternative to Batato. It's just another service problem when you have users going to other pirate sites to read. It's normal to go to best alternatives, not because of morality, in the end it's all piracy.

 

[FireFish5000]

@sunsetchaos No. Im sorry, I love old bato's model, but they SUCKED bad. For a reader, other than lack of Ads, they had nothing on other aggregator sites. I am sure they were good at one point in time, but the last 4 years were broken as hell. Requiring you to have an account to read to begin with definitly would have drove more away than into it if it were not for the fact that the community wanted to support the scanlators (who were constantly putting batoto into the credits page). There are several site I could have recommend that were good readers as long as you have an adblock installed or didn't care about scanlator's feelings.

 

[sunsetchaos]

@firefish5000 lol same actually. I didn't use batato much, was using other sites myself. I think I was also using kissmanga mainly for the comments, before they added those anti adblocks. The mods were aholes tho.

 

[Teasday]

No. If you want external aggregator links, just use Google.