Maken no Daydreamer - Vol. 6 Ch. 36

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That Ryuuto guy might remind me of Kouki from Arifureta, lol
The way he said to Minato, about "if you're strong and have strength then you should help the people in needs" HAHAHA.

Such a self-centered guy who think that he's a right & justice, and the people who can't agree with him is the wrong one. LOL
 
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I'm just imagining a peddler trying to support their family back in their hometown village, then these 3 pricks come along and steal their entire life savings which was all in their one and only horse-drawn wagon, leaving the peddler completely penniless and his whole family starving to death or forced to sell themselves to slavery because they have no other options after being robbed of everything.

I wouldn't mind if they were giving their own stuff away that they purchased as a charity, but they literally just steal other people's shit and have the nerve to lecture other people about crime and punishment? Hypocrites. They're no better than random highway bandits, no matter what their "noble" causes were. They ought to hand themselves over to the guards before trying to force their ideals onto others.
 
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that play sounds like our politics.
talking about a random thing, than saying 'he' did well, different from all the others, they are shitty. and then you go on and on about how great your choice is.
but in the end, they are all the same.
and they did nothing, the boy is still starving and penniless and without hope, he will probably die in a few months or years, maybe even tomorrow or later today, or become a full fledge bandit and go robbing/raping/killing/etc for a living.
the world is still unfair and the only thing they are adding is some random yelling in the streets.
how similar it is indeed to our politics.
but i also don't agree with mc passivity. if you don't care, then don't help. but if you do care then do something, being hurt by your own passivity is simple dumb. do it knowing you are doing very little, and that it will not change much, but that at least your eyes will feel better. you may not be able to help all the homeless but you can at least stop the public death sentence. it doesn't make hima hero tho, but he will at least feel satisfied. he be doing what he wants, as all the others are (even the kid robbing). why should he be the one suppressing himself? they can play in public, so why can't he intervene in public. simple as that. freedom is a weird thing.
 
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... These guys were right about the kid, yet the comments are full of everyone lambasting them as though these guys are the villains.

Three fully grown adults, clearly not poor or malnutritioned (and with a steady income, no doubt, as merchants) violently savaging a street urchin? If we're talking realistically, that kid would be dead. Even if he managed to crawl away he'd be bleeding internally and would die of his wounds in an alleyway somewhere, and the only regret would be that his corpse left a smell. Even if somehow he miraculously survived getting stomped out viciously and kicked TWENTY FEET HALFWAY THROUGH A STALL, his body would never properly recover, with misshapen bones and damaged muscles, brain damage.

Y'all are some edgybois if you think that's fine and that Elk is right about the situation. If those three fully-grown men could kick that child to death, then they had all the power in the world to hold him and take the item back from his hand before letting him go. They weren't seeking justice for themselves, they were venting their anger on someone who couldn't fight back. Guarantee they wouldn't try that against someone stronger than them, or who had even a slight chance of being able to kill them if pushed too far.

Maybe the rest of Blue Justice's actions can be extreme, for all we know the others they steal from are also well-off, or at least have steady income, and they only redistribute to the poorest who can't survive long enough to get back on their feet. We don't know, but you people are all assuming the other merchants (the richest class aside from nobility in any setting) are poor and struggling victims. Not because it's the only logical assumption to make, but because it fits your derision and supports your idea that these people are wrong. Wait until we have more information, and maybe think more like human beings rather than edgy manga characters.

Or hypocrites like Elk. Who was so happy when Minato saved her, when she didn't deserve to be saved? When he had no reason to risk himself or stick his neck out to do anything for the person who tricked and stole from him? Oh... it was Elk. Who fell in love with Minato who did this for her? Elk. Who appreciated someone coming to her rescue heroically? Elk. Who told these people who do the same thing Minato did for her that they were stupid for trying to save a child who was being kicked to death out of anger, and should just mind their own business? ... Elk.
 
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@Kayriel Sure, they saved him in that moment. But he still had a reason to steal, and they did nothing about that. The kid will just go back to stealing, and the merchants will remember Blue Justice and resent the kid for their actions. They ripped on Minato for not helping, but they actually made the kid's life even harder long-term. They go around exclaiming 'Justice!', but all they're doing is stroking their own egos.
 
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If the kid's good enough to get away with it until now, he can fend for himself when he's not caught. But I agree, they're not the smartest sort.

However, they still stepped in to save the kid when everyone else was just going to watch him die. With Elk's reaction I'll assume some were watching while completely believing he should be savaged to death and it was the right thing to do. That's a whole bundle of points in the right direction. I didn't see anyone else call out or try to reason with them. Or stop the cowards who were happy to beat something that couldn't fight back. At least it was something. The kid gets away to try and live another day as opposed to being dumped in a ditch to rot as a corpse. That's already a definite plus.

Edit: Thinking on this, if no one said or did anything to stop them, they've probably seen this happen before and also did nothing. How many starving, poor, homeless kids get trampled like this that you become numb and desensitized to it? Or even think it's a good and proper thing? How many dead children does it take to go "Oh this is normal, no reason to stop them."?
 
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@Kayriel It's a case of differing mentality. For us, it's fucking horrible. For them, they're probably busy working their asses off to not starve, or trying not to get eaten by monsters, or worrying about the next war looming ahead. In an undeveloped society, in a world with monsters even, you could never be sure of living to see tomorrow. People are too busy dealing with their own shit to care about a thief getting killed.

You also have to consider the merchants' view. Maybe the market is shit right now, and they were betting everything on the sale of that gem. Maybe their kids will starve if it gets stolen. If the public order is so bad that they can get away with beating someone like that, they have to protect themselves from criminals. Best way is to deter them with harsh punishments.
 
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whoa lot's of smart peeps here that totally didn't get duped by a stawman into a blind rage.

remember folks this is a work of fiction, it's not real, it was constructed by an author that wanted to make you feel that the mc and you are in the right. @Kayriel is headed in the right direction with the questions that the author should've asked himself before writing this crap but oh well. any wyas here's a quote from a french anarchist

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - really makes you think, now go fuck yourself, bye!
 
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It's for the same reason I like the Avengers better than the Justice League. I know 'Avengers' mean something along the lines of getting revenge and all which is bad, but 'Justice League' sounds like a bunch of boy scout goody two-shoes. 'Blue Justice' might even be slightly better than 'Justice League'.
 
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If this were an American comic, Blue Justice would be depicted as the true heroes without a shred of ambiguity. Instead, they're cast as radical moralists that should be avoided. Hmm....
 
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@tuatara1 It's like Japan suffered some serious horrors in the name of 'justice' or something. Maybe two of them.😅
 
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@cor3zone I guess that could be part of it? But I think it's more just the usual sort of cultural dissonance. Collective morality vs. individual morality, maintaining social order vs. upending the status quo, all of that. American storytelling emphasizes the importance of individual action, of Doing the Right Thing no matter how hard it is and no matter if you're hated for it. Japanese storytelling generally doesn't focus on those principles as much - and in some cases, such as this chapter, casts those principles as misguided and destructive.
 
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@tuatara1 True. Way better explanation.

American comics also focus more on the price such heroes pay, at least modern comics. Thinking Spider-Man and the like. Self-sacrifice. Manga shows more of the rewards of doing your duty.
 
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Nothing wrong with helping the kid, but if you're stealing to do it, then there's no justice. While I generally don't mind Robinhood style characters, you have to know the local situation before you can come in and "do justice". Just assuming what is going on without having fact to back it up just makes you a menace.
 
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Essentially, this was a chapter in which everyone yelled "no u", while literally everyone in this chapter were in the wrong.
Ain't isekai without that sort of thing.
 

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