Munou wa Fuyou to Iware "Tokei Tsukai" no Boku wa Shokunin Guild kara Oidasareru mo, Dungeon no Shinbu de Shin mo Chikara ni Kakusei suru - Vol. 3 Ch…

[vhr2121]

I have a feeling that the pages are... Out of order, maybe? I dunno...

 

[xstationo]

I have a feeling that the pages are... Out of order, maybe? I dunno...

Same, I have the raws for this chapter, and I think you're right.

 

[larcek]

it was revealed that the claims of potential rape by the MC was only disclosed the day before the trail to the saint, yet she instantly believes the hero instead of her prvious fiancee. she's pretty much a lost cause to me thus.

at least the sister dealt directly with the guild master embezzling the money and tried to make amends which sparked some forgiveness in the MC traumatized as he is.

Same, I have the raws for this chapter, and I think you're right.

yeah, it also felt oddly aligned to me.

 

[Raeandra]

Going "Oh yeah I'll just get raped on the daily, that's better than people knowing I'm such a dumbass." is the dumbest bitchest movest in the history of dumb bitch move.

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the scanlation

 

[phil777]

Y'know, think he could turn back their mental state to a baby? That'd be great revenge. Or make them age faster so their functions deteriorate to the point of dementia and senility?

 

[White_cloud]

everyone who betrayed him suffers

Spoiler

his sister is the only one to get redemption, but she still suffered

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

but the weird thing is that those girls in an too easy way distrust the MC never check the facts

This is where I just sort of disagree with everyone here. I seriously doubt that any of you would play detective and find out the truth if your friend was arrested and had fake evidence presented against him - and if you trusted the system (the church and the law officials), it'd be that much harder to believe in your friend.

Not to say that the ladies are without fault, but I just find their actions reasonable, and it seems a shame that their fates are so dire for taking reasonable courses of action.
And like I said, the sister who seems more at fault then the other two ladies gets off relatively scott free... it just seems a little uneven in it's dolling out of 'justice'.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

It was as cage the elephant said

 

[SoniQ95]

False testimony.

"You're an accomplice"
Of what? Sure she was a bitch to the MC for not believing him at all, but she's done nothing illegal and there's zero reason she couldn't just go public with this other than the author not wanting to redeem her.

 

[Nehona]

So, even supposing she was guilty of false testimony.

As a SAINTESS, it would be her duty to right her wrongs. Yes, she messed up really bad. But RIGHT NOW she should go to the king and expose the Hero. That's the only possible sliver of atonement she can find.

If instead, now that she knows she messed up so bad, she still persists in doing nothing....
THEN she's unforgivable. Because you are allowed to be deceived because you're dumb. But if you discover you did something truly unjust, you SHOULD step up and try to fix it.


Also yes the pages near the end are out of order...

 

[NARESH4444]

That would be up to any individual themself to decide. Regardless you don't post informations about future story content without using spoiler tags. In this case it's even worse, since he took something that was in proper tags and reposted it without them. That's seriously bad manners.

And again,it's obvious that was a snarky remark.

Even if there was a rape basement mentioned later,with the current context we have now,it's nothing more then just throwing crap at a character who had it coming in their eyes.

It's like saying "enjoy Hell,ya bastard" to a dead villain and claiming it was spoilers because Hell does actually get mentioned later...it has no real impact to the story,nor does anyone who hasn't actually read the source would even think that it was a spoiler.

And if the only people who know are those who've already read it,that's also not a spoiler to them.

I meant in the known chapters, I saw a spoiler that at least one of them got raped

Considering what we know about those two psychos,unless they waited for whatever reason,it would've already happened long before Cyclo returns.

And if you did already know,then you could just go back and double check yourself?...

 

[Reina4444]

1 shopkeeper and 1 ex girlfriends eyes have been openend, 1 sister to go.
so why the hell did his sister come up with the idea to ruin his social standing completely? will there be a more detailed explanation/revealing of the process in the coming chapters?
or was the stuff in the chapter 2.1. already everything?

also, random thrown-in statement: this story shows a lot what the results of weakness and lack of connections mean for a person in a time of being persecuted.
if the main character wasnt gifted/skilled, he wouldve been killed, abused and reduced to a cripple or lived eternally in misery and suffering, while those of higher standing continue being virtous just because they hold more power, influence and wealth.
"justice bleeds black and blue" was the phrase, right?

 

[braewoods]

For those wondering about the hero's fate and the saint's fate in the current LN:

Spoiler

The hero is banished to the war front. But he's so incompetent that eventually he's replaced by a lookalike. The real hero is stripped of his noble privileges, he's damaged beyond recognition, and lastly he's relegated to being a criminal slave that's used as cannon fodder on the battlefield.

It's implied that his noble family and the skill giving church are both in agreement towards what they did to him. Due to a freak accident on the battlefield, his slave collar is destroyed and he's last seen running off into enemy territory. He's presumed dead but it's never outright stated.

The saint is banished to a remote church with a high level of danger. She's barely mentioned again after that point except for an exchange between Cyclo and the saint's father when his business contacts him after Cyclo's return to the capital. Her father asks Cyclo for some favor in regards to the saint but he refuses. Her father seems to blame Cyclo for what happened to the saint. It remains to be seen what the author intends to do with the saint but I believe she will remain relatively unimportant for the remainder of the story.

 

[HaveABanana]

I'm in the camp of being dissatisfied with the saint going down the route of just being a doll doing the bidding of the hero. It might be that later the rest of her 'punishment' gives a better conclusion but it's just stupid to go along with the 'hero's words now that she knows he's full of shit. If she truly feels remorse for how things went down, almost anything would be better than providing any aid or comfort to the person who was responsible for it.

 

[LogLauncher]

Thanks for the chapter!!

 

[kirby_422]

The Saint basically always trusts the hero more; when her childhood friend / ex-fiance is accused, she outright assumes hes guilty even with his own word. Learns the hero's story that her money personally funded crime is false, and "better ask poor hero how this misunderstanding came to be and trust/help him!" until after he admits he purposely lied. Pretty big middle finger to poor cyclo.

Can give her slight benefit of the doubt, that after she was tricked into harming someone she cared about, that she now realizes she should be more careful about ruining lives, but really, the difference in treatment..

 

[dokidoki]

Well, thanks to the church and her father they were barely friends at that point. She was forced to annul their engagement and have zero face to face contact. The only contact was the letters and money which she now knows weren't being delivered. I guess she was probably already frustrated as from her perspective she was constantly sending money and letters with no response. Though its unlikely the church would've allowed Cyclo to contact her even if they'd done their actual job. To be honest the more normal behavior would've been to get angry. She sacrificed her friendships, fiance, and whole life to this stupid church that still had the gall to take her money too.

As for the hero i can't remember how long they've been working together but its been for a bit iirc? And he is trusted and adored by everyone, has the support of the rulers of the kingdom, and it the heir to a duchy. The saint is also incredibly naive thanks to her upbringing. Being raised by the church to think the church is infallible and good does not make one a good judge of character. Helps the hero though as she is easily guilted into complete inaction.

I'm actually surprised she didn't just nuke the whole church/hero, sacrificing your whole life to the church only to get fucked over by them/hero, I would've crashed the fuck out

 

[dokidoki]

For those wondering about the hero's fate and the saint's fate in the current LN:

Spoiler

The hero is banished to the war front. But he's so incompetent that eventually he's replaced by a lookalike. The real hero is stripped of his noble privileges, he's damaged beyond recognition, and lastly he's relegated to being a criminal slave that's used as cannon fodder on the battlefield.

It's implied that his noble family and the skill giving church are both in agreement towards what they did to him. Due to a freak accident on the battlefield, his slave collar is destroyed and he's last seen running off into enemy territory. He's presumed dead but it's never outright stated.

The saint is banished to a remote church with a high level of danger. She's barely mentioned again after that point except for an exchange between Cyclo and the saint's father when his business contacts him after Cyclo's return to the capital. Her father asks Cyclo for some favor in regards to the saint but he refuses. Her father seems to blame Cyclo for what happened to the saint. It remains to be seen what the author intends to do with the saint but I believe she will remain relatively unimportant for the remainder of the story.

Lol

Spoiler

her dad blames him???? isn't her dad(if part of the church) the fault of this? since the church/hero both fucked over the saintess by cutting out contact between MC/Saintess and also stole her money she was sending to MC so their relationship never went anywhere??? ngl I'm surprised the saintess didn't go ballistic on the church like how Mc's lil sis nuked the guild master? when she found out her money never made it to MC

 

[zairy09]

Who protects Saint are weird, I mean she is one of the contributing MCs, becoming a Slave and even goes to dangerous places. It like sending to death sentance and you can joke saying she blameless, also she fricking SAINTESS every word she said becoming evidence for people to trust meaning her word can make punishment more several then as it should be.

Also, she can't say ops, she wrongly accuses innocent people of their death sentence just because I'm dumb and trust a stranger about their baseless evidence.