Maria no Danzai - Vol. 1 Ch. 2 - Saint Maria in the Infirmary

[Eighty-six]

I think a lot of my criticism is that I feel like the the revenge half of the story should have start with exhausting all legal options to go to the extra legal route, thereby making her rage more justified, but then slowly have her commiting more unethical and unjustified actions to show her slide from antihero to villain.

Perhaps, but you're effectively saying that you feel that this character should be a different character. That Mari doesn't try to exhaust her legal options and instead wells up with a lust for self-destructive revenge of dubious justifiability has to be accepted as "the point", what with it being written in the very beginning of the serialization.

Also it being deep-faked takes away from the impact of it

The "impact" in this situation is primarily that they escalated from tormenting just him, to involving his family. That was the last thing he wanted, which is why he hid his being bullied from them and-- presumably-- part of why he chose to jump. His error was taking on way too much responsibility and accordingly suffering in silence, without ever anticipating the comically heigh heights of evil his bullies could reach.

Along with that, even a definitive disproof of the legitimacy of the deepfake wouldn't stem all of the disgrace incurred, if it managed to at all.

If it was real, then it raises more questions and her having a guilt complex about her son's death would be more justified.

It doesn't have to be justified, per se-- it has to be believable. And it's absolutely believable that both parents would have tremendous guilt over their child dying under circumstances like these, even if it wasn't their fault and Kiritaka was deliberately hiding his ordeal from them.

Self-blame is absolutely a regular thing with survivors of lost loved ones, especially when they die from illness or accident.

Also as for the suicide note, I thought they expressly said he wouldn't die if he jumped off the cliff, and so why would they force him to write a suicide note?

There's no way they didn't consider the possibility of his death, regardless of their later disappointment; he was severely injured before he got ran over. They even told him to leave his shoes on the roof-- in Japan, that's something notably done by those who commit suicide by jumping off heights.

Also, yes, if you kill someone who is suicidal you can still be charged for that, even if it's an accident and they're a minor.

It's not that he ran over someone that was suicidal-- he ran over someone that threw himself off a cliff in order to commit suicide. People don't get charged for that unless they're potentially liable for something else in that incident.

That's something that can even be put aside-- it's not relevant to the course of the story, and any focus on it would be steering into the weeds, given how little it could matter for either of his parents. It's not even like the truck driver was complicit in Kiritaka's torture, or suing him would improve anything for Kiritaka's parents. The truck may as well have been unmanned, for the purposes of the story.

The point of the sequence is that Kiritaka dies in an unsalvageable and traumatic way as a conclusion to his being extensively tortured, and this scars both his parents.

 

[asdasgfrw]

She could just show the diary to her husband or report them to police wtf is this bs💀💀💀

 

[asdasgfrw]

This is so goofy.

Goofy af

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

Hopefully in this one they stick to the main villains and don't start adding random new villains later on for no reason.

Well Maria did mention that she was acquainted with the Ringleader's mother. And in the first chapter Maria told her son that she was bullied when she was in school so.....

 

[Sonaldo]

Nah equally edgy imo

Lmfao no. Juujika legit had the mc being trained by his war vet granpa to become a monster yet still won't do shit to the ringleader. Who also coincidentally is also leading a cult of some sort. Genuinely, Juujika is literally the most edgy bullying revenge manga I've ever read.

 

[LordofAlI]

so she had to blow the principal to become the nurse? She probably could've done that without going that far but I guess having favor with the principal will help her. Like she's certified to be a nurse, so I doubt they'd have any reason to reject her being the nurse.

 

[hsun]

 

[SilverMajeh]

Yet his wife found out everything just by checking his room

Checking his room after the diary fell by chance.
She herself believed that her son killed himself, which is a reasonable assumption given all of the evidence.

 

[SUPER7X]

For those following the disagreement between me and Eighty-six, know that I now—for vastly different reasons—agree that the foreignizational “Maria” (which the scanlators went with) is the better translation of her Biblical nickname “マリア” (over the domesticational “Mary”) after this chapter's reveal that the MC literally changed her first name to “Maria” [真里亞] (from “Mari” [真里]) because losing the direct knowledge that her name and nickname are the exact same is obviously worse than losing the direct referity of her nickname to Jesus's mother for a large amount of English readers. A prominent translation note will have to do to address the latter.

That being said, I still have some translation thoughts, and on the aforementioned revealing line in question (Page 12 Line 2) even: The scanlators went with “I've reverted back to my maiden name [Akeboshi Maria] in court.”. Cutting of “Next,” and strange turning of the Japanese quotemarks into brackets aside, this sentence doesn't make sense unless you're thinking she had a maiden first name. I've never heard of such a thing. I think a more accurate translation would probably be “Next, I returned to my maiden name and changed my name to “Akeboshi Maria” in court.”, thereby demarking her first name's change to “Maria” as separate.

 

[tohkaknight]

oh shit

 

[comedyxtragedy]

I think I'll wait if this goes edgy or not. Second chapter somehow is weak to me. Depends on the future writing, I might drop this.

 

[exxp]

She should've targeted their leader first? his kind become kinda hard targets when alarmed and in caution, while the others'd be easy peasy after finishing their leader.

 

[Jocsan]

Bro why do I get the feeling the bully ready fuck her then she gonna like him and forget about the revenge

Cu there are some mangas like that fr

 

[deadrabbits]

i'm going to get revenge for my son by fucking everyone that bullied him

Way to go japan, the japanese a-bomb correction count just moved up from 3 to 4, two are never enough.

 

[Ironclad]

Another trashy bullying revenge story. It will jump the shark. It will go on way too long. The MC will get cold feet. People will die but not in the way that was planned so it's bad. The police will be incompetent. The big bad will make Ozymandias look amateur with how untouchable he is.

 

[Aerl404]

i can fix her

 

[chenjx7777]

Isn't that a less edgy version of Juujika no rokunin ?

no r too

 

[assman162]

This is such a forced, bs tale lmao. It'd be interesting if it weren't so dumb.

I don't think I've ever read a revenge manga that didn't feel like it was made for single digit iq mfers.

 

[ILOVECODY]

Just a general observation, but women are just general at writing compelling drama in manga then men. There's a lot of stupidity here, like that the porno being leaked in the first chapter is just her face photoshopped onto existing porn and not actual blackmailing material. the fact the car wouldn't have seen the kid getting run over, the fact the person driving the car never got charged for accidental manslaughter, the fact it took the mom like a day to find all this evidence definitively proving he was being bullied and never went to the police with it, the fact the bullies were just able to cover up their involvement in a way that is never explained and which the investigators buy uncritically , the aspect of the divorce being entirely undeserved and unnecessary, etc.

There's a lot of holes and contrivances in this story and I've noticed other manga, usually written by women, do these things better. Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta, although much darker as a story, does a lot of this stuff better for instance. I think the start here is a bit rough and bit too fixated on sex and shock value over the narrative and making those shocking moments contextualized well.

This is such a bullshit statement considering all the decent and/or great drama mangas equally made by men. Like Oyasumi Pun Pun and Boy's Abyss exist. I love how you chose Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta when that is probably just good or on the same level as Boy's Abyss when it comes to melodrama. (I prefer Shiruka Bakaudon's shorter pornogrpahic works). If you anted a better work for your case you should have chosen Sensei's Pious Lie, Saturn Return, or something. Your comment just reeks of misandry misandry.

 

[Tamerlane]

This is such a bullshit statement considering all the decent and/or great drama mangas equally made by men. Like Oyasumi Pun Pun and Boy's Abyss exist. I love how you chose Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta when that is probably just good or on the same level as Boy's Abyss when it comes to melodrama. (I prefer Shiruka Bakaudon's shorter pornogrpahic works). If you anted a better work for your case you should have chosen Sensei's Pious Lie, Saturn Return, or something. Your comment just reeks of misandry misandry.

I'm not saying men can't write manga. I'm just saying there is a trend of female authors seeming to more consistently writing good manga as opposed to men. That's not like due to the fact they're men or anything. Again it's just an observation, as I've definitely read more trash from male authors-but that doesn't mean that they're incapable of writing manga. That does not mean I hate the male sex.

It ain't that deep, fam.