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I hope that the father also realized that the suicide note is fraud and help his ex-wife to get her revenge.![fml :fml: :fml:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
If anything, he will be the one to stop her due to his justice belief.I hope that the father also realized that the suicide note is fraud and help his ex-wife to get her revenge.![]()
Well saidJust a general observation, but women are just general at writing compelling drama in manga then men. There's a lot of stupidity here, like that the porno being leaked in the first chapter is just her face photoshopped onto existing porn and not actual blackmailing material. the fact the car wouldn't have seen the kid getting run over, the fact the person driving the car never got charged for accidental manslaughter, the fact it took the mom like a day to find all this evidence definitively proving he was being bullied and never went to the police with it, the fact the bullies were just able to cover up their involvement in a way that is never explained and which the investigators buy uncritically , the aspect of the divorce being entirely undeserved and unnecessary, etc.
There's a lot of holes and contrivances in this story and I've noticed other manga, usually written by women, do these things better. Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta, although much darker as a story, does a lot of this stuff better for instance. I think the start here is a bit rough and bit too fixated on sex and shock value over the narrative and making those shocking moments contextualized well.
>divorce husband
>turns into a whore
Unironically, I would not be surprised if that happens with how "lol I'm so edgy" this author is.Can't wait for the mom to get fucked by the bullies' cock
You're comparing apples to groundcherries. Shiruka Bakaudon is an exceptional case because of her background (she was viciously bullied as a child and was allegedly raped during that time) and style. Even if it was meant as a representative example, it's in its own league.Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta, although much darker as a story, does a lot of this stuff better for instance.
It wouldn't matter-- it's still harassment fodder that nobody's going to bother to look into to definitively disprove. It's why people freak out about deepfakes at all.There's a lot of stupidity here, like that the porno being leaked in the first chapter is just her face photoshopped onto existing porn and not actual blackmailing material.
Why would the driver be charged for inadvertently running over someone who jumped in front of his truck because he (ostensibly) wanted to kill himself? People don't get charged for that if they weren't breaking other laws in the process.the fact the car wouldn't have seen the kid getting run over, the fact the person driving the car never got charged for accidental manslaughter
the fact it took the mom like a day to find all this evidence definitively proving he was being bullied and never went to the police with it
That's the point. The mother doesn't want to have this solved by the regular channels. She wants to make some high schoolers suffer, for the sake of her unlawful revenge. Everything she did just to get to the point where she is in chapter 2-- divorcing her husband and changing her identity, dropping all her friends, getting full body surgery, prostituting herself for a job-- is for that extreme purpose. There's no way that this isn't meant to be understood as radically self-destructive on her part, and it's accordingly expositive of the kind of character she is.the aspect of the divorce being entirely undeserved and unnecessary
They forced him to write a suicide note. Before he killed himself, he kept covering up his being bullied (which is why his parents were none the wiser) because he was essentially rescuing someone else that was being bullied. The investigators don't have the knowledge we, Mari, or Kiritaka does, so there's no reason to naturally expect that they would just happen to think about whether the suicide note written by the hand of the suicide victim was coerced.the fact the bullies were just able to cover up their involvement in a way that is never explained
You're comparing apples to groundcherries. Shiruka Bakaudon is an exceptional case because of her background (she was viciously bullied as a child and was allegedly raped during that time) and style. Even if it was meant as a representative example, it's in its own league.
I'm even split on whether to agree with this idea: I'm instinctively inclined to believe that women-- whose primary "conflict arena" tends to be socially based (put another way, they tend to be more familiar with extensive "drama" in real life compared to men)-- would be better, but... the writing scene is fairly male dominated and used to be even more so. Whether we're talking about those whose works are foundational to the mode that is drama, or those whose works are otherwise renowned, men aren't sparse.
Conversely, even in the woman-dominated shoujo and josei demos (incidentally, the author for this had a manga they co-authored published in a josei mag), the drama is often schlocky in a different way (and, in josei, often in a smutty way).
Nearly none of this is a function of sex or sex-based socialization-- it's about editorial standards/interference, effort, and the willingness to be meticulous.
That aside, everything you brought up are either debatables or missing the point:
It wouldn't matter-- it's still harassment fodder that nobody's going to bother to look into to definitively disprove. It's why people freak out about deepfakes at all.
Why would the driver be charged for inadvertently running over someone who jumped in front of his truck because he (ostensibly) wanted to kill himself? People don't get charged for that if they weren't breaking other laws in the process.
That's the point. The mother doesn't want to have this solved by the regular channels. She wants to make some high schoolers suffer, for the sake of her unlawful revenge. Everything she did just to get to the point where she is in chapter 2-- divorcing her husband and changing her identity, dropping all her friends, getting full body surgery, prostituting herself for a job-- is for that extreme purpose. There's no way that this isn't meant to be understood as radically self-destructive on her part, and it's accordingly expositive of the kind of character she is.
They forced him to write a suicide note. Before he killed himself, he kept covering up his being bullied (which is why his parents were none the wiser) because he was essentially rescuing someone else that was being bullied. The investigators don't have the knowledge we, Mari, or Kiritaka does, so there's no reason to naturally expect that they would just happen to think about whether the suicide note written by the hand of the suicide victim was coerced.
I appreciate the response. I think a lot of my criticism is that I feel like the the revenge half of the story should have start with exhausting all legal options to go to the extra legal route, thereby making her rage more justified, but then slowly have her commiting more unethical and unjustified actions to show her slide from antihero to villain.I'm not going to tell you that this is compelling, but it's absolutely functional and almost formulaically airtight in how it sets the premise.
I feel that the era of certain gender writing certain types of stories is long past, I mean we've seen any genre with any author regardless of their gender and sometimes people who thought they were male writers turn out to be female and vice versa. It's now more of how they were educated, what kind of interest they have, and other complex factors that can't be summed up with "Because they're men/women"Just a general observation, but women are just general at writing compelling drama in manga then men. There's a lot of stupidity here, like that the porno being leaked in the first chapter is just her face photoshopped onto existing porn and not actual blackmailing material. the fact the car wouldn't have seen the kid getting run over, the fact the person driving the car never got charged for accidental manslaughter, the fact it took the mom like a day to find all this evidence definitively proving he was being bullied and never went to the police with it, the fact the bullies were just able to cover up their involvement in a way that is never explained and which the investigators buy uncritically , the aspect of the divorce being entirely undeserved and unnecessary, etc.
There's a lot of holes and contrivances in this story and I've noticed other manga, usually written by women, do these things better. Kimi ni Aisarete Itakatta, although much darker as a story, does a lot of this stuff better for instance. I think the start here is a bit rough and bit too fixated on sex and shock value over the narrative and making those shocking moments contextualized well.
By the way, have you read tons Shoujo manga written by a woman author? A lot of them are full of contrivances with plot holes because they prefer more drama and emotional conflicts, I've lost count of how they write stupid misunderstandings just because of contrived reasons which can be resolved just by having common sense. It shows that not all women have the same writing style or behave the same way.There's a lot of holes and contrivances in this story and I've noticed other manga, usually written by women, do these things better.
Also as for the suicide note, I thought they expressly said he wouldn't die if he jumped off the cliff, and so why would they force him to write a suicide note? When did he have time to do this? The only explanation is the bullies wrote it, but then wouldn't a handwriting expert be able to tell that it's bullshit?