More Amazon Anime and Manga bans. Japan now very worried.

[ColorfulSoy]

There's also the argument that "depictions of [X] will lead to [X] occurring more in real life", but that's simply not true. Extreme violence in video games doesn't lead to increased crime rates. The widespread popularity of incest porn doesn't lead to an increase in incest. And the sexualization of prepubescent cartoon characters doesn't increase the sexualization of real-life kids.

This is what i am talking about as i quote

There is some people in this god damn earth that has a sexual towards something fictional but not in real life, did you not realize that ? every human works differently. They're enjoying what they read and they watch.

@bigtiddyoneesan
thank you.

Outlets for potentially harmful fantasies and behaviors are important. Banning this will do more harm than it will good.

This is true.

 

[Mr_Detective]

Well, some of us can differentiate between reality and fiction, and steer away from stuff that we don't find "right" with us. Some others can't, and combine that with the tendency to project their disgusting characters onto others, the authoritarian complex (thou shall not like what I don't like), and the idea that they are some sort of god's gift to the world, you have a mob of iam14andthisisdeep to deal with. I already had a "conversation" like this before and repeating myself is tiring and pointless with these arrogant people.

"Anime characters aren't real, unless they are sexualized, that's when we must treat them like real people and come to their rescue."

 

[ColorfulSoy]

@Mr_Detective
what is sexualized ??

is it like, that thing become a real object and have an emotion ?

 

[Mr_Detective]

@ColorfulSoy When 2D girls don't cover their face from head to toe, unless it's real teenage girls who dress provocatively in school to express themselves.

 

[GrandLotus]

@bigtiddyoneesan

There's also the argument that "depictions of [X] will lead to [X] occurring more in real life", but that's simply not true. Extreme violence in video games doesn't lead to increased crime rates. The widespread popularity of incest porn doesn't lead to an increase in incest. And the sexualization of prepubescent cartoon characters doesn't increase the sexualization of real-life kids.

'Gateway drugs' do exist of course, but when it comes to people searching online for their fantasies/curiosities, the vast, vast majority of those people know where to draw the line between fiction and reality.

Outlets for potentially harmful fantasies and behaviors are important. Banning this will do more harm than it will good.

First of all, I never said it would increase the sexualization of real-life kids. Secondly, there's practically an infinite amount of CP hentai on the internet; taking away pedophilia content from anime/manga isn't going to have any negative repercussions. And lastly, public shows/comics should NEVER have been the fucking medium for this shit in the first place. I'm disappointed you're* even defending it. Sexualizing children for god damn fan-service has no fucking place in that kind of public media. Pedophilia should not be normalized. I can't believe I even have to say this. JFC. Fucking anime/manga community...

 

[bigtiddyoneesan]

First of all, I never said it would increase the sexualization of real-life kids.

I know, I never meant to insinuate you did. I was bringing up another potential argument to play devil's advocate.

I'm disappointed you're* even defending it.

I'm defending it for the same reason I would defend you or anyone else's right to free speech: if it doesn't harm anyone, nor is it a call to violence, it should not be outlawed.

Pedophilia should not be normalized.

It's not normalized, nor is it being normalized, by the anime/manga community. A normalization of pedophilia would look look something like the sexualization in Cuties (the Netflix movie), but much more prominent and with little backlash against it.

I would recommend refraining from using ad hominems in the future, as well as avoiding sentences that emphasize your personal distaste for something. If one or more sides of a discussion use subjective reasoning, it is nowhere near as efficient a discussion as one where both sides use objective reasoning and attempt to see different perspectives.

 

[ColorfulSoy]

@GrandLotus
OMG, how many times do i must tell you ?? Age rating and a warn is very important, and that is why Public Media want to launch it. Whether that is an animation, art or a books.

do you know about Anime aired schedule ? Yeah, you better observe it, maybe you can make a job as a raw provider.

do you know about the ID verification when you want to buy a 18+ or 21+ books or CDs ? Yeah, you better remember that common thing.

 

[Yatsuki]

Ah yes, series like Hannibal normalize cannibalism. NGNL and Nanatsu no taizai normalize pedophilia, CS and any shooting games normalize mass shooters and violence. Oh yeah series like Overlord or Youjo Senki normalize war, violence, and mass murder also. But guess what, they are fictions.

Not saying people who confuse real life and fantasies/fetishes aren't real, there is indeed a large amount of those, but normally you should be able to differentiate between reality and fiction. They are fictional, no one real gets hurt or such in the making of those medium. And the point is fictional stays fictional, and you should definitely be able to separate it from real life. The rating and warnings/tags help with that. If you have trouble with confusing fictional and reality, please go seek help and consider consulting with a professional therapist instead of blaming the medium. Also rather than banning and twisting those things into something they're not, raise awareness about mental health, raise awareness about fiction definition, or put some more restriction on the distribution or something idk like actually check/confirm ID when buying those things?

 

[ColorfulSoy]

what @Yatsuki just said is the point of all this conversation.

go seek some help too and stop with the insult that you bring to anime/manga community once and all, you should be embarrassed.

 

[bugmenot2]

Just a reminder before this gets locked by a mod:

 

[GrandLotus]

@Yatsuki

Ah yes, series like Hannibal normalize cannibalism.

Except it doesn't. At all. It's portrayed as fucked up the entire time. Unlike in anime/manga, where sexualizing children is portrayed as completely normal, by it being fan-service, rather than an actual part of the storyline. Awful analogy.

 

[ColorfulSoy]

i am done, you're just repeating that line again, and you doesnt even read all of it, i bet.

nothing is good about that conversation anymore. that's why @Mr_Detective done with all of this shit.

 

[Yatsuki]

Lmao figured you would pick that single one example and ignore the rest ). I said what I wanted to say, if you have such problem with the manga/anime community and actually think we are all degenerate who can't separate fictional and reality, you should definitely leave and boycott Mangadex for allowing such fictional works to be accessed by the public and ruin our future generation ^^

 

[bigtiddyoneesan]

You know @Yatsuki's serious when they leave the Manga/Support/Suggestion forums and bust out the textmojis.

 

[Yatsuki]

@bigtiddyoneesan Wat you mean, I'm always serious, most serious person there ever was =.=

 

[GrandLotus]

@Yatsuki

I didn't ignore the rest. It's just the first thing you said, and it's essentially the same thing for all the other examples.

And no, I'm not confusing fiction with reality. Fictional murder is still murder; we just don't put any real person on trial for it. Fictional rape is still rape; we just don't put any real person on trial for it. Fictional pedophilia is still pedophilia. And, as I've said a million times now, the difference is all up to the handling of it.

I have no need to boycott. I can still find anime/manga that I enjoy. There may be a disturbing amount that sexualize child character for fan-service, but it's not all. And usually I just don't engage with the community on this topic. Happens every once in a while, though.

Anyway... I said my piece. Nobody here is going to be changing their minds. I'm going to bed. Goodnight.

 

[ColorfulSoy]

@GrandLotus
Then for what are those conversation ??

like as i quote

OMG, how many times do i must tell you ?? Age rating and a warn is very important, and that is why Public Media want to launch it. Whether that is an animation, art or a books.

do you know about Anime aired schedule ? Yeah, you better observe it, maybe you can make a job as a raw provider.

do you know about the ID verification when you want to buy a 18+ or 21+ books or CDs ? Yeah, you better remember that common thing.

You're not even reply to it, or any the rest of @Yatsuki's reply ?

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[bigtiddyoneesan]

I'm going to bed. Goodnight.

To everyone in this thread:

Sleep tight, pupper.

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^This.

 

[GrandLotus]

Uhhhh...

As I already pointed out a while ago, almost all of the anime/manga that sexualize children for fan-service are PG-13. Which means there's no restriction to accessing it. And any warnings definitely don't explicitly say anything remotely like, "This content includes the sexualization of young children for the sexual pleasure of the audience."

I know I said goodnight, but that comment showed up when the page refreshed after I submitted my last comment, lol. Now... goodnight.

 

[ColorfulSoy]

@GrandLotus

do you know about Anime aired schedule ? Yeah, you better observe it, maybe you can make a job as a raw provider.

jst go to sleep man.... i hope you have a good dream.
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