Nihonkoku Shoukan - Vol. 4 Ch. 16

[captain_crunch]

King still hasn't put on a pair of proper pants

 

[IronMace1990]

@captain_crunch

I think he was caught naked in the WN and LN

 

[dsuke]

@IronMace1990

Wouldn't (shouldn't?) the isekai kingdoms be wary of this mystical country with amazing technology who are more than happy to trade trreasures for 'junk'? Shouldn't someone catch on? And titanium is nice and all but it doesn't power your AC or car...

 

[StrangeStripes]

@dsuke: You're talking about Japan in as it is in the current world, their situation in this fictional work qualifies as a major emergency to the degree where the government should be able to exercise it's war time powers. The government is going to put in restrictions to limit consumption of resources; rationing (fuel etc), brownouts, reducing mass production to the level needed for domestic market only, and so on. As well as, probably shutting down nonessential business temporarily. So hopefully they'll only need a fraction of the resources they'd normally be consuming.
Regardless though, seems unlikely this series will go into details about this kind of thing so there's no point thinking too hard about it.

 

[hedgemoney]

@Adam Knight Why Japan would be screwed even with the agreements with the oil and farm country.

Fuel:
Japan's fuel reserves without importing would only last a few days, or a few weeks at most. And it takes many, many months and years, even to build oil infrastructure. This means in the mean time, people would probably be starving after a few weeks without any more fuel or effective means to transport it. Japan would have to do an abrupt manufacturing change (which takes months or years), then build the stuff to get the oil (even more months, with a rushed production), and then months for the infrastructure to transport the oil back to Japan. So in the mean time, Japan has huge power outages for a few years, massive starvation and deaths in probably the year (or more) it took to get the oil into a usable state.

Food:
Japan only has a food self sufficiency of about 50%, which means, even if they increased the food production, maybe would reach 60-70% (they have 40% the population of the US on the land size of California, even if they switch to as much farming as possible, the land size just isn't enough), so many people would have already starved before the food is transported back to Japan. And as for food imports, that isn't even worth considering. Assuming the agriculture country does all the transportation, that would take many, many, months to get to Japan. And even if they use all their self-produce able gas to transport food (unlikely as no trains, and trucks driving on rough terrain = dead trucks), they don't nearly have enough fuel to get sufficient amounts of food back to Japan before large amounts of the population died from transportation.

Social Structure:
Many people would be out of work (you can't hire people at factories/farms that don't exist yet). Huge increase in crime (for obvious reasons). Social Unrest. Mass Panic. Very, very strict food control, fuel usage, power usage. Lack of working hospitals or other medical needs too.

The author severely underestimates the dependency Japan has on external forces and established infrastructure as well as over estimates Japan's self-reliance/self-sustaining. Infrastructure is the single most important thing that most people (and the author) take it for granted, making any of this stuff unrealistic in the short time it took Japan to do it.

What I'm say is that if Japan really did suddenly get isekai'd as a whole, they better hope they teleport directly in between a sea of oil and an expansive plain of wheat/rice or else they are royally screwed.

 

[Armsdealer12]

Thanks for the translations

@hedgemoney you raise some fair points good sir. I am more wondering about the home situation of japan. What are the residents currently doing, the state of public order, is there unrest, what about foriegners on japanese soil and how they are coping.

Hoping for the next few chapters on world building. Interesting thought experiment and discusions are really nice to see in the chapter comments

 

[IronMace1990]

@dsuke

Nope. The kingdom didn't bothered. Maybe titanium doesn't power cars but it is very important material in aviation, especially construction of fighter jets engines and fighter jet airframes, especially Japan must develop the F-3 for the upcoming war against the Ravernal Empire

 

[NARKist]

@hedgemoney also you forgot to mention that Japan can't really maintain the amount of food they got since no matter how good the kingdoms agriculture are, they can't provide the food that Japan needed.. they can use magic to boost the power but it still doesn't make sense if magic is the most important thing to them..

 

[hedgemoney]

@Armsdealer12 Hmm... I would only imagine all foreigners suffering from grief and major depression. No matter how much the government tries to calm the people down, I'm pretty sure, no one can stay calm in the face of the country getting isekai'd, especially if its just the common citizen.
I can also imagine that most people would be out of work and suffering from unemployment. There are many real life examples of what happens when economies and infrastructure goes to hell. Take Brazil and Venezuela for example. Venezuela's economy and infrastructure got hit hard. Puerto Rico after the hurricane hit is another example of what would happen.

Real life is usually the best evidence. T.T

 

[Frozard]

Good job Yukkuri!
You're releasing so fast, that you should change the name to Hyokkuri

 

[dsuke]

@IronMace1990

As I said, titanium is nice and all. But to even be able to utilise it, in a fighter jet for example, you need a massive infrastructure which depend on a gazillion other things, many of which also are needed for the day to day business of a nation of 127 million.

 

[dsuke]

@StrangeStripes

Yes I would certainly expect rationing in a situation like this. But has there been any mention of such things? When the ambassadors visited Japan everything seemed as normal. Was that all a show?

 

[IronMace1990]

@dsuke

What do you think of the version of Japan that was transferred to the New World? Some backwater country just after WW2? This is 2015 Japan (or 2013 Japan in the LN), which is a technological might from Earth, that is transferred in the New World. They have facilities that can process and manufacture different metals, including titanium and plutonium.

 

[Kizuro]

@hedgemoney Gonna love how to see how the author explore this issue after this arc.

 

[optiso]

@IronMace1990 modern japan heavily relies on imports, basically their entire military is dependent on US arms deals. With them spraying expensive nonrenewable ammo at middle ages serfs it begs the question of if they are running out of ammo or will the author find a way to rationalize it.

 

[Kamelpov]

@optiso they did have the domestic production of licenced us weaponry so it's unlimited. Like when China provides goods for others countries they need the blueprint at least.

 

[Laundrysauce]

One thing that has always fascinated me about these kinds of isekais is realistically; how long before a small country like Japan before it collapses due to logistics, obviously it wont during this series because of pandering, but im just being hypothetical. Which country that is bigger than Japan but smaller than the US/China/Russia could thrive provided they overcame a few sociopolitical/infrastructure issues post isekai?
Id say either Spain/Germany or France
If only Yugoslavia was still around

 

[yarielist]

...
Too bad, that Dio wannabe don't have Stand ...

 

[themanj]

Atleast gate had the sense to have atleast one casualty durring their operation these guys just faced an cloae ramged ambush and are fine

 

[Filepool]

LOL, get rekt king