Ogami-san Can’t Keep It In - Vol. 4 Ch. 21 - Can't Be A Wolf

[Captaininvictus]

@givemerssplz please I am begging you, put all the effort you have put into the most banal nitpicking in existence into something actually worthwhile

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls The term "aircon" is actually very commonly used in English-speaking Asian countries like Malaysia and Singapore. The abbreviation "air con" even has an entry in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/air-con
Your issue with the translation is based on your ignorance of how the term is used by English speakers outside your limited worldview.

 

[xXPenisXx]

Americans are at it again, huh?

 

[Choco_Pudding]

It's just called AC in Canada too. I had no idea the Brits called it aircon. Kinda weird, actually. Wonder what Australians say.

Post-chapter edit: is he sure those are Oogami's thoughts? They might just be his own lol

 

[Lpopo4lyfe]

Sometimes this girl’s thoughts are so random, where did she see a dick? 🤨

 

[Choco_Pudding]

@Lpopo4lyfe it was just bad translation. Should've said "your dick is touching me".
(Japanese is a very simplistic language and in it those words are enough to get that thought across.)

 

[xXPenisXx]

@givemersspls bro please just take the fucking L

 

[Maiorem]

@Lpopo4lyfe she didn't see it, but she felt it when it brushed against her back.

@givemersspls So you are admitting that it was due to your ignorance that you were unaware that English speakers outside of your experience do use the term "air con". What assumptions did I make about your experiences and exposure to the English language?

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls Your ignorance has proved itself. My knowledge about your experiences and exposure is entirely irrelevant to the fact that you have spoken against a translator out of your ignorance; you cannot deny that. Is there a reason why you should take offense at being called ignorant? Only if you were wrongly called that. But you are rightfully called ignorant. You have no one else to blame but yourself.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls Indeed, if you lived in a country that uses the term "aircon" your entire life and you did not encounter the term, that being your life experience and exposure is one thing, you won't be considered ignorant. What's ignorant is for you to assert things based on your limited life experience and exposure which contradicts the actual facts. That is why I said your life experience and exposure are irrelevant.

 

[gronkle]

@Choco_Pudding
I thought it was a pretty good translation myself, sounds more like something blurted out

@givemersspls
Take your entire ignorant head out of your irrelevant ass.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls where did I say that your life experiences do matter? Perhaps I did not make it clear when I said "that being your life experience and exposure is one thing" even though it literally means that your life experiences do not matter when it comes to judging if you were ignorant in your judgement of others. Every life has limited experiences, that is true, but knowing that, you still chose to judge others wrongly. That is what makes you ignorant.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls Do not be foolish. Where is my error in judging you to be ignorant? Did I not make myself clear before?

What's ignorant is for you to assert things based on your limited life experience and exposure which contradicts the actual facts. That is why I said your life experience and exposure are irrelevant.

Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls The difference is that they are not making any assertions at all that are contradictory to actual facts.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls
I have actually said that yesterday.

What's ignorant is for you to assert things based on your limited life experience and exposure which contradicts the actual facts.

And of course I am well aware you have said that you could have said the same thing, which is why I immediately followed up my previous quote with the following sentence in the same comment:

That is why I said your life experience and exposure are irrelevant.

Whether or not you have had such an experience is entirely irrelevant to the fact that you were ignorant with your words.
My delay was because I went to sleep after my previous reply, which is why there was an 8 hour delay between your subsequent reply and my further reply. What's your excuse for your delay?

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls

Are you stupid? I asked about the fact that you made NUMEROUS posts between when I first asked you "what's the difference" and when you finally said what the difference was. You not only had multiple chances to respond, you actually did respond! You just ignored the question.

I already made it clear by my fourth comment here what's wrong with you. This is my ninth comment. Do you know how to count? But first, please learn how to read.
I also answered your question immediately after you asked me. It simply took you four posts to finally comprehend what I have already said earlier.
What part of "they are not making any assertions at all that are contradictory to actual facts" do you not understand? Did I say that the hypothetical person made any such assertions in the first place? That's the difference. They didn't do such a foolish and ignorant thing, unlike what you did.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls
You first asked:
"How do you determine whether I was wrongly called ignorant? It would be based on my experiences and exposure. How else do you call me ignorant? Because you want to use a HIGHLY subjective term? So whatever you decide is right? Please, enlighten me. Give me an objective standard for "ignorance" that is not completely bankrupt. If a child were born today and told all their life that Pluto is still considered a planet, they are obviously wrong. Is that child ignorant despite the fact that literally every person in their life gave them justification?"

My first response immediately following that question:

Indeed, if you lived in a country that uses the term "aircon" your entire life and you did not encounter the term, that being your life experience and exposure is one thing, you won't be considered ignorant. What's ignorant is for you to assert things based on your limited life experience and exposure which contradicts the actual facts. That is why I said your life experience and exposure are irrelevant.

This is the same thing I had quoted two replies ago to show how it has answered your question already.

Here's my second response after that:

where did I say that your life experiences do matter? Perhaps I did not make it clear when I said "that being your life experience and exposure is one thing" even though it literally means that your life experiences do not matter when it comes to judging if you were ignorant in your judgement of others. Every life has limited experiences, that is true, but knowing that, you still chose to judge others wrongly. That is what makes you ignorant.

This time, I even highlighted the part of the sentence to make it clear to you, but you failed to understand yet again.

Here's my third response:

Do not be foolish. Where is my error in judging you to be ignorant? Did I not make myself clear before?

What's ignorant is for you to assert things based on your limited life experience and exposure which contradicts the actual facts. That is why I said your life experience and exposure are irrelevant.

Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

This time, I even quoted my earlier response.

My fourth response:

The difference is that they are not making any assertions at all that are contradictory to actual facts.

And then only did you acknowledge that I have answered your question, in spite of it being simply four posts saying the same things over and over again. So it's not that I made two comments before responding to your question; it's that I have made four comments before you even began to realise that I have responded to your question. That's so pathetic.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls
I didn't miss that. In fact, I addressed that, saying that it's entirely irrelevant as to what makes you ignorant. I made it clear that having those experiences or not does not make anyone ignorant, but the moment they speak foolishly the way you did, they are ignorant regardless of their prior experiences.
I'm currently vacationing in Hanoi with my family so I may not respond to you in a timely manner.
I'm currently vacationing in Hanoi with my family, so I won't have as much free time to indulge in your masochism.

 

[Kisato]

@Maiorem @givemersspls

Should probably take it to PMs before a mod shows up.

 

[Maiorem]

@givemersspls If that hypothetical person made the same stupid assertions as you did, they're ignorant. There.