Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai - Ch. 74 - Real Hell

[Georgeorat]

If I remember right, this is told from Justus' POV to the inventor girl. Of course he bullshits at least 50℅ of the story

 

[Al_Azif]

Tie grabbing? Oh my.

 

[Kaarme]

Okay, I had fun with all the previous chapters so far and thought of this as another guilty pleasure generic isekai, but this chapter changed it all with Justus as a misunderstood villain and there are more layers to it.

I very much doubt he's still anything but a villain. I reckon he might indeed be a pure mad scientist. He doesn't hate anyone personally, or persecute any group of people, so he might appear surprisingly jovial, but he's still willing to burn down the whole world just to prove he can do it. I merely misunderstood just how much he's involved in politics. I imagined he's already controlling the kingdom, but it's possible he's doing that as little as possible, in fact. He might merely be promising things to unscrupulous people far more interested in political power, like that army general, to get their cooperation. Will Justus ever deliver on those promises, though? That should depend on how interesting research topics the promised things are.

 

[Kageura002]

No matter which is the greater Villain. Both is definitely not right in their head.

 

[MasterPannya]

Erica in shambles.
Ain't no way she can compete with these two.

 

[Zephyr]

Actual huge twist. Justus not being as much of an evil mastermind as Harold thinks he is. He still might be an evil mastermind - he's interested in powerful heroes, but didn't say why, exactly - but even so, it's a real surprise that he doesn't even seem to know about the Stellar Tribe attack and subsequent coverup, let alone being responsible for it all.

I gotta say, when most stories do these kinds of villain- perspective side chapters, it often just acts as cheap foreshadowing, or ends up draining the mystery and fear from an otherwise ambiguous threat. This chapter, on the other hand, makes the story much more intriguing than when it seemed like Harold had everything figured out in advance. He doesn't even know how much he doesn't know, and I can only imagine that it's going to blow up in his face at some point. Everyone else has been trying to tell him that he can't do it all alone, but so far, his memories of the game have been much more reliable than any living person - what happens when he can't rely on that knowledge as much as he thinks?

Edit: Unless this is all just lies that Justus is telling to El and Leafa. If that's the case, it would be just be a big letdown and kind of a waste of a chapter, lmao. I guess we'll see.

Edit 2: It would be a bit weird if it's just that, though - I mean, what is he saying, exactly? "And then, with Harold's bloodstained hands clutching my tie, we both gave each other sinister smiles, and laughed evilly for a bit. Ah, good times. Any questions?"

 

[Tds-PdV]

This implies that in the game story something happened that turned Justus eventually into the final boss.
Perhaps a slew of coincidences changed him or he tried to do something and it all went wrong.

Tbf, this does make it a more “realistic” case (as a story), it’s unlikely we have a (cartoon-ish) villain plotting the demise of the world.
However, things going wrong and now we have this character being the one meant (or wanting) to destroy everything. That has more depth.

 

[dkuro]

I think I have understood.
This chapter is his "version" of how he met Harold he is currently telling the two girls from the last chapter when they asked him why Harold is dying.

 

[CthulhuSans]

Actual huge twist. Justus not being as much of an evil mastermind as Harold thinks he is. He still might be an evil mastermind - he's interested in powerful heroes, but didn't say why, exactly - but even so, it's a real surprise that he doesn't even seem to know about the Stellar Tribe attack and subsequent coverup, let alone being responsible for it all.

I gotta say, when most stories do these kinds of villain- perspective side chapters, it often just acts as cheap foreshadowing, or ends up draining the mystery and fear from an otherwise ambiguous threat. This chapter, on the other hand, makes the story much more intriguing than when it seemed like Harold had everything figured out in advance. He doesn't even know how much he doesn't know, and I can only imagine that it's going to blow up in his face at some point. Everyone else has been trying to tell him that he can't do it all alone, but so far, his memories of the game have been much more reliable than any living person - what happens when he can't rely on that knowledge as much as he thinks?

Edit: Unless this is all just lies that Justus is telling to El and Leafa. If that's the case, it would be just be a big letdown and kind of a waste of a chapter, lmao. I guess we'll see.

Edit 2: It would be a bit weird if it's just that, though - I mean, what is he saying, exactly? "And then, with Harold's bloodstained hands clutching my tie, we both gave each other sinister smiles, and laughed evilly for a bit. Ah, good times. Any questions?"

I agree that it would be a bit weird if this was Justus bullshiting half the story to seem more likeable, especially since he has nothing really to gain from doing that. Yeah he could just what the alchemy research but that isn't really the main focus of his own personal research. But this is not to say Justus isn't a villian, just not the final boss or anything like that kind of like how Harold is technically still a villain but people who know him will say its complicated. Somebody said it before that he feels more like a mad scientist instead of a big bad final boss. It would be very interesting if Harold's meddling with the plot creates a whole new final boss and turns Justus into a unwanted ally. But also I haven't read the LN so I don't know

 

[Kireato]

Well let's not forget that the concept of a "unreliable narrator" exists. This is Justus telling the story, it does not mean this is reality.

This is not an unreliable narrator, but just straight up lies if Harold's understanding of the story is to be trusted. Justus has no knowledge or an event that he apparently orchestrated so he's either getting framed later on and this was never exposed in the story Harold knew about, or Justus has some method of obfuscating his own memories (possibly to ensure that he wouldn't reveal anything compromising under duress).
If Justus isn't lying regarding his lack of involvement in the stellar tribe event, Harold's suspicion of him might mean he'll gather evidence of his innocence when he eventually gets framed, though Harold is going to be in a situation where he has no clue about who actually is the enemy.

Edit: Unless this is all just lies that Justus is telling to El and Leafa. If that's the case, it would be just be a big letdown and kind of a waste of a chapter, lmao. I guess we'll see.

Yeah, if he's telling a story to them, it would make sense that he's lying, but it's an odd way of presenting it. Is it meant to show that he was incredibly persuasive?

 

[panzerkampfwagyu]

that it is more of a flashback instead of a "he tells it" does imply it's legit though.
Mostly by how it's presented
Dedicating an entire chapter as a flashback, only to say "fake" would be a weird choice

 

[Pumpki]

Eyyyy nice to see your translations again, thanks for the upload! Good luck to kirei too, hopefully their irl stuff works out for them

 

[Excel-01]

It's a fake, remember that Justus is known to us as the mastermind and final boss. I'm sure y'all love plot twist and some but it's prob more so a schemer scheming something.

He is fabricating the stories out of his mouth about their first meetings. It is convenient to him in that the story would paint him in better light and clear him out of suspicion, while casting the shadow of doubt about the mastermind elsewhere.

 

[ZeroWWE]

It's a fake, remember that Justus is known to us as the mastermind and final boss. I'm sure y'all love plot twist and some but it's prob more so a schemer scheming something.

He is fabricating the stories out of his mouth about their first meetings. It is convenient to him in that the story would paint him in better light and clear him out of suspicion, while casting the shadow of doubt about the mastermind elsewhere.

...ok what you say makes sense i read the novel and in it, he is the evil last boss but this chapter throws out everything I know and makes me doubt myself

 

[Shinigamisama]

Bro is actually cool ngl, despite being a villain. The "good guys" are the ones that framed him. I don't think he's really nice, but hey, at least he's using his brain more than the ones who framed Harold.

 

[albirew]

kukuku intensifies

I am confused. I thought he was supposed to be the villain.

I thought it was Justus that had orchestrated the whole thing... Am I remembering wrong or was it all a misunderstanding from Harold?

that's Justus narrating his version to the girls, selling himself high...

 

[FFUJIN]

Thanks for the chpater

 

[Rainmoarr]

Thanks for the TL!

So the scientists guy isn't straight up evil? I guess I'll have to re-read.

 

[Amplify]

Read notice.

Limited time upload.

Can't we just keep you instead?

Maybe he's just a chaotic good character and is just misunderstood?

I've read the novel as much as there is, he is extremely not misunderstood and there is not a single morale bone in his body on the path to bringing back his wife(?). This chapter threw me for a loop too.

 

[Amplify]

Thanks for the TL!

So the scientists guy isn't straight up evil? I guess I'll have to re-read.

It looks like rather than an actual flashback, this is Justus telling the story in his own way; AKA it's massively embellished.