Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai - Vol. 9 Ch. 60 - The Duty of an Adult

[MangaDex]

 

[Ninoren]

Guess it will take the entire Story now for Harold to stop working for Justus, though that's weird as shit since he knows he's the main villain, but it doesn't feel like he's trying to find anything to expose him

(Since he's already stuck to him for 5 Years after literally just kicking EVERYONE away)

Already gave up on any romance happening between Harold and Erica, before I enter my grave 😐

 

[Jakeh24]

Guess it will take the entire Story now for Harold to stop working for Justus, though that's weird as shit since he knows he's the main villain, but it doesn't feel like he's trying to find anything to expose him

(Since he's already stuck to him for 5 Years after literally just kicking EVERYONE away)

Already gave up on any romance happening between Harold and Erica, before I enter my grave 😐

Gave up on this manga tbh let alone romance. The forced twist was so fucking bad and taking 55 ish chapters to get to the actual start of the story is barmy

 

[tanabataz]

did they time skip to go back to before the time skip and continue the story? is there a going back in time arc to when harold starts working with the main bad after this one? Will we leave the fireplace in the next 20 chapters?

 

[TEU]

did they time skip to go back to before the time skip and continue the story? is there a going back in time arc to when harold starts working with the main bad after this one? Will we leave the fireplace in the next 20 chapters?

I-Impossible! Multi timeskip drifting?!

 

[Kaarme]

Guess it will take the entire Story now for Harold to stop working for Justus, though that's weird as shit since he knows he's the main villain, but it doesn't feel like he's trying to find anything to expose him

(Since he's already stuck to him for 5 Years after literally just kicking EVERYONE away)

Already gave up on any romance happening between Harold and Erica, before I enter my grave

But Justus doesn't know anything about Harold, and it's not like Harold would tell the man anything. I actually find this twist quite interesting because it basically reveals why Justus is the main villain of the story. The kingdom is already utterly corrupt, and no doubt Justus is sitting at the center of it, even though few must know about it. This whole affair with Harold's sentencing is precisely the kind of stuff that happens in totalitarian countries in RL as well. The justice system is one big theater playing farce nonstop, yet the majority of the population has got no choice but to go along with it. I don't remember if it was Stalin or which old Soviet leader that said catching the culprit of a crime is not important, you just need to catch someone and publicly sentence them. The population only needs that, it doesn't matter if it was the real guilty person or not.

Like I wrote in my previous chapter's comment, Harold's case happened only because it allowed the corrupt party (army) to raise their own position at the expense of the honest party (chivalric order), and because Justus couldn't figure out how Harold could do what he did. So, Justus pretended to be the one to save Harold, to forcefully recruit him. Naturally it's all nonsense for Harold who knows who Justus is, but Justus doesn't know that. Not that it matters, as I doubt he considers Harold much more than a curiosity.

But yeah, I'd have also liked a bit more romantic progress than a single head pat, haha.

 

[mangavorex]

did they time skip to go back to before the time skip and continue the story? is there a going back in time arc to when harold starts working with the main bad after this one? Will we leave the fireplace in the next 20 chapters?

Yes, this is "mistery" omniscient knowledge dispenser telling the escortee what they heard happened

 

[pab101]

I'm really glad to have been not as invested in the romance as in other mangas or I would've dropped it, this sorts of sudden obstruction bs has gotten me to drop three mangas this year.

 

[mayu_hojo]

Why spend the time to do a flashback? I don't see how it adds to the story since we have the dramatic irony of knowing that Justus is behind all of this. It just looks like it'll spend 2 chapters of filler at this point then.

 

[vannn]

This would have been more appropriate before the huge time skip.

 

[Kaarme]

Why spend the time to do a flashback? I don't see how it adds to the story since we have the dramatic irony of knowing that Justus is behind all of this. It just looks like it'll spend 2 chapters of filler at this point then.

I can't help but agree. The only useful detail I see in this is Erica and Cody getting reasonably acquainted. If Erica ends up joining Liner's party, like she should, it means she can take the party to Cody for occasional assistance, like the hero party did in the game story.

 

[KingsMan12]

This does happen irl, and one of the big reasons of why I will always call politicians are wh0r3s and sons of wh0r3s. They're practically the enemy of humanity. And for you who said this doesn't make sense, I ask you this: what did you expect? Dealimg with politicians and things related to politics will end up like this, like it or not. Expect the worst out of them and just give them a middle finger. Just walk away and never vote for them. They can go to hell for all I care. Call this a contempt or hate speech, whatever. I am only stating the truth and how you deal with it.

 

[TetraSky]

Great, the next couple of chapters will just be one huge flashback isn't it.

 

[hsun]

The flashback is just a chapter.

 

[LonerofGaming]

Really should of had the flashback...just shown at the time it was actually taking place honestly. Maybe the rushed timeskip was to show how sudden the whole thing was but that really didn't hit the mark.

It kinda went from "too little information to process" to "too much information to plow through" huh.

Also as someone who wanted & liked to see how Harold & Erica's relationship develop, I'm in slight pain.

 

[Al_Azif]

What's the point of having a timeskip if you're just going to immediately show events that you skipped anyway?

 

[Tds-PdV]

Really staying true to the title, Harold’s death flags is unending.

At first I was disappointed of the timeskip, but I kinda glad the author did it and explain the event as a past narrative.
It would have sucked having to guess how Harold is gonna end up while having jammed all the possible conspiracies. By having the outcome known first, I don’t need to focus so much on the nitty gritty details and new characters; just following the thread that goes to the present is enough, especially since the chapters are monthly.

But really feel bad for Harold, he can’t even run abroad because he had to make sure the game events happen and the world is saved.

 

[Lasiace]

I'm going to assume that in the source material, the author either went with the original time skip and then saw negative feedback that made them go back and write this flashback, or they just didn't know how to write these events at the time and wrote the time skip to buy themselves some time writing this part.

Well, I suppose it could also be what was said above, where the author wants you to know how it turns out so the story isn't about whether he lives and more about what people around him did about it.

This order of events definitely feels hella weird, but hey, at least they didn't actually just gloss over everything in the end.

 

[GreeneValley]

I'm going to assume that in the source material, the author either went with the original time skip and then saw negative feedback that made them go back and write this flashback, or they just didn't know how to write these events at the time and wrote the time skip to buy themselves some time writing this part.

Well, I suppose it could also be what was said above, where the author wants you to know how it turns out so the story isn't about whether he lives and more about what people around him did about it.

This order of events definitely feels hella weird, but hey, at least they didn't actually just gloss over everything in the end.

From the WN chapter release dates it doesn't seem likely as they're so close to each other. I think it's more of a plot twist/cliffhanger for the end of the Volume 2 (Volume 8 for the manga) to attract readers for the next book.. whether it worked or not is up for debate 🙈

Or maybe the author want to try new storytelling approach lol

Also, some parts were actually flashbacks from way down the road, in which the manga adaptation showed parts of it early

Spoiler: Novel spoilers

IIRC the courtroom scene & meeting of Harold and Justus at the prison is from next arc, like 20 chapters away. It's more detailed and showed Harold/Kazuki's inner monologues on the decision

 

[GreeneValley]

Really should of had the flashback...just shown at the time it was actually taking place honestly. Maybe the rushed timeskip was to show how sudden the whole thing was but that really didn't hit the mark.

It kinda went from "too little information to process" to "too much information to plow through" huh.

Also as someone who wanted & liked to see how Harold & Erica's relationship develop, I'm in slight pain.

Well

Spoiler: Mild novel spoiler

you'll like the next arc then, where Itsuki Sumeragi pulled some strings...