Otomege Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu - Vol. 5 Ch. 24 - Sky Pirate Subjugation II

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even if is called Marie Route once Leon knows that Marie is his sister it will be over for any Romantic Develpment from his part, pretty sure that the route Itself shows that Leon, Angie and Livia are Fated to be together is proved when Leon keep crossing path with them even if he tries to avoid them, also implied that Marie is fated to be with the five idiots lol
 
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Personally, I think the translation should be "mental growth" than "spiritual growth". Unless they really go meditate or something.
 
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later on does livia apologize to leon ? whatever he did he still had only good intentions to help her , she also hurts leon right now , like no one goes so far for a pet , her anger is justified but her choice of words wasn't the brightest

also leon helping her out was a correct choice as marie is the one who fucked up the script not leon ,except for taking lux , which wouldn't matter that much compared to other saint treasures , leon is doing the right thing yet he is being criticized , as if he didn't do anything to help her livia would have gotten bullied ( she does get originally as well) but not with marie in control it wud be too excessive and wud actually break her down , hardship helps grow but beyond a point it just shatters you into something that cannot be fixed no matter what , lux pointed out incorrectly
 
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I don't know why but Olivia is more annoying than what I remember when reading the LN 😬
 
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So...
How the fuck does Marie find out that Leon is her dead reincarnated brother? Do they both know it? Was there any "family reunion" between the two (I imagine a lot of yelling)? Does Leon resent Marie or anything?
 
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@nothingtosay
the girl supposed to be the happiest being in that world and the MC took it away from her and what would she got became 1 of his harem or etc? :(
what a nice reads we got here
While that's somewhat true, and even the MC feels guilty about denying her access to everything that she would've probably gotten, it's also worth considering that the alternative is... also probably even worse from the side stories and whatnot. Don't forget: In the otome game, Livia was a storytelling device. It was a self-insert for YOU - THE PLAYER. When Livia herself is a thinking, living, breathing human? With thoughts and feelings that don't belong only to a game script? Shit can get a lot worse and less rosy. I suggest hitting up the spoiler chats to see that the grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
 
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Leon doing to Livia exactly what he did to his sister and look how that turned out for her...
He is way too overprotective of those he cares about.

Well, technically Livia's future would be way worse by following the original timeline.

@definitionofinsanity

It's kinda weird to think how the player is actually the real villain in the game when you look from a certain point of view, it also makes room for a lot of reflection in about what we do while playing games
 
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"Hes Overprotective".
I agree, thats the same reason why Marie became such a spoiled cunt, her onichan was always there to bail her out of every situation she got herself into.
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They pretty much find out at almost the end of the first game, which is novel 4.
They were yelling at each other about how much they act like their previous lives sibling and then it hit them both, then Lux just helped them put the pieces together.
@Koshin_127
Do you remember a time when your parents always did things for you and never let you do anything by yourself?
Thats the exact same thing Livia is going through, Leon is too fucking overprotective.
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This actually is part of the Princes character growth, we get insight into how far removed they are from normal situations, the dude really has been raised wrong.
Not that its his fault, since his dad is too busy banging his harem and his mom is too busy running to country to raise him right.
 
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It would be needed some heavy spoilers to answer your question fully, but the basic is that her life was always suffering after suffering and they find out each others identity when she finally has a mental breakdown and basically gives up living, they begin talking about their previous life and start to piece the puzzle together. The scene itself is actually quite moving and it, along with other things, gives context to all of Marie's actions up to that point.

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They're both kinda brocon/siscon but not in a sexual way like in many other works. Leon was way too overprotective of her and didn't let her face the consequences of her actions but she always had really had bad luck so it's understandable, while she has always had really bad luck and was Leon who was always there for her, so she became dependent on him. Not to mention that at a surface level he doesn't seem like that good of a person, so maybe that also influenced her romantic choices.

Actually, it's kinda funny seeing this story having so much focus on the facets of sibling love when the author previous work is basically the story of siblings going at the each other throats until the other was dead, and leaving a river of blood in their wake.
 
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so, apparently the novel of this manga went downhill from a certain chapter... never read the novel tho...

Wait, what? At least until Vol. 5 it just keeps getting better. Vol. 6 was just out and from wat I heard the trend of getting better continues.
 
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@nothingtosay: If you are referring about Olivia and her Original Story, as per the Otome Game, then it would be better if you read the Bonus Novel Story "Marie Route" that the Author is writing.
It talks about the actual situation of how things would have gone for Olivia, if events went almost the same in real life for her as in the game story.
Aka., the Game Story only focused on the Positive side of Olivia's story, while the actual situation is quite different.
 

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