Otona ni Narenai Bokura wa - Ch. 27 - Tuesday

[gloss]

My interpretation that no, them fucking didn't stop the loop. It seems thr loop has a limit, say 100 years, maybe more. Since she began looping earlier she also got out of the loop sooner, so that would explain why Aoi is alone at the end of the previous chapter. It also seems like when the loop ends you lose your memories of it, but not the feelings. Happy end basically.

Judging by the comments people are utterly incapable of interpreting open(ish) endings. Like do you need your food chewed for you as well? Literally the point is, they don't know how to get out of the loop, it just ended at some point.

I think that looking at the events we see in the reel and remembering how she stopped showing up to hang out with him after she started killing herself again, it makes much more sense to assume that his time spent without her is due to her giving up on their relationship again, since it already happened once before. There's also blatant foreshadowing of them losing their memories in their dialogue, which again makes much more sense as a connection/interpretation than "they just keep the feelings, somehow."

Those are interpretations based on the text, which makes it really funny to me that you just made something up and decided to immediately high horse about other people also not interpreting, for no reason.

Anyway, on the subject of "having food chewed for you" it is important that a story resolve its own premise, since the premise is the vessel through which the stories themes become apparent. That being said, it is valid to argue that the loop starting and stopping for no comprehensible reason is the point, and that the theme of the story lies there, I just don't like that personally.

But even if you were to argue that, given how the chapter immediately before these last three was about how the characters wanted to see if ghosts would persist through the loop, just to see if something about the loop could ever change (showing an inherent interest still in what the mechanics of the loops are), the fact that (if I remember correctly) they discuss what might stop the loop a few times, and that they'd go so far as killing themselves just to see if that would free them from it even as far back as chapter 1 (plus all the visible suffering and loss of their mental faculties as time went on), then I would argue that "how does the loop work/when will it end/why is this happening to them" had already become a pretty clearly well established part of the story. It pervaded every chapter. "How long are they meant to suffer like this" was like, the central point to a lot of them even, so it would be strange if you had missed that.

With that being the case, I would say that something being so directly asked (by directly asked I mean that it's what the mangaka is clearly trying to make us feel) of the viewer, does warrant direct attention and some form of answer, so this ending doesn't cut it. I personally don't find "It takes a long time, idk how long but a loooong time, then suffering kind of just goes away" to be satisfactory. That's like if you went to a therapist, told them about your problems and were told that they'd just go away if you didn't think about them for long enough. That's nothing

 

[gloss]

The description of the story on the Japanese page is:

This is a silly and never-ending story about how we kill time, repeating July 7th. A time-loop love story about two high school students trapped in "eternal youth"!

I don't think the author thought about how the loop started or how it ended he just wanted to write two characters living the same day in different ways.

This synopsis feels facetious to me, since it was very clearly not just a silly time loop story even from the very start

I personally think what happened was that the scope of the story just couldn't sustain itself. We were seeing a gradual mental descent for the characters, like you could see it on their faces even, but what the mangaka was writing and what the Japanese audience wanted to see just didn't seem to align with one another

 

[RichardPercival]

Sad it got axed, but I really enjoyed the ride

 

[silencers]

The series got axed? Damn, what a shame. The author deserves to cook a bit more, we were on a good roll too.

 

[imbestigador15]

Sex had nothing to do with it. Read the chapter before the last. They banged a lot and still looped.
It flatout isn't explained what solved it.

I know. I just put it that way since they slipped out in the explanation. Though on a previous chapter, they mentioned loop will end in xxxx years. Which they skipped telling us how they know how long it's going to take.

 

[L33tSkeels]

IT WAS SEX ALL ALONG????????

 

[smoothw]

Good series overall, but the last chapter stinks honestly, even if it was axed author could have come up with something better

 

[smjin]

Yikes so they went with the memory loss cheap out huh? If the last few chapter had been more focused and not have such a predictable and lame plot device as an ending (and not a fucking 12 pages last chapter) this could have been so peak.

 

[redblaze]

According to twitter, the author plans on writing a bonus chapter. My assumption it will be with the 3rd volume.
The author's quote:
"ありがとうございます…！！ おまけ漫画も描く予定なので、もう少々お待ちください！！"

 

[Audiomannen]

They don't remember a thing, the good ending.

 

[Felkin]

I think that looking at the events we see in the reel and remembering how she stopped showing up to hang out with him after she started killing herself again, it makes much more sense to assume that his time spent without her is due to her giving up on their relationship again, since it already happened once before. There's also blatant foreshadowing of them losing their memories in their dialogue, which again makes much more sense as a connection/interpretation than "they just keep the feelings, somehow."

Those are interpretations based on the text, which makes it really funny to me that you just made something up and decided to immediately high horse about other people also not interpreting, for no reason.

Anyway, on the subject of "having food chewed for you" it is important that a story resolve its own premise, since the premise is the vessel through which the stories themes become apparent. That being said, it is valid to argue that the loop starting and stopping for no comprehensible reason is the point, and that the theme of the story lies there, I just don't like that personally.

But even if you were to argue that, given how the chapter immediately before these last three was about how the characters wanted to see if ghosts would persist through the loop, just to see if something about the loop could ever change (showing an inherent interest still in what the mechanics of the loops are), the fact that (if I remember correctly) they discuss what might stop the loop a few times, and that they'd go so far as killing themselves just to see if that would free them from it even as far back as chapter 1 (plus all the visible suffering and loss of their mental faculties as time went on), then I would argue that "how does the loop work/when will it end/why is this happening to them" had already become a pretty clearly well established part of the story. It pervaded every chapter. "How long are they meant to suffer like this" was like, the central point to a lot of them even, so it would be strange if you had missed that.

With that being the case, I would say that something being so directly asked (by directly asked I mean that it's what the mangaka is clearly trying to make us feel) of the viewer, does warrant direct attention and some form of answer, so this ending doesn't cut it. I personally don't find "It takes a long time, idk how long but a loooong time, then suffering kind of just goes away" to be satisfactory. That's like if you went to a therapist, told them about your problems and were told that they'd just go away if you didn't think about them for long enough. That's nothing

Wonderful comment. I fully agree, these interpretations, while valid, just aren't very appealing.

I think the author gave enough hints that we can piece it all together, but this requires a few rereads of the whole story and some group discussion. At the end of the day, japanese "groundhog day" loop stories are effectively always about the loop being a metaphor for the characters being in some way stuck in their lives and unable to move forward. (The only exception is kind of steins;gate, but that story is a deconstruction so it doesn't really apply).

So what we have to answer is 'what changed'. Obviously having sex is not the answer in an of itself, that's too shallow. The question is what does having sex represent. It was the beginning of the end. Once he made that commitment, it then spiraled out of control until the loop ended.

One read I could give is that the characters tried to maintain their sanity. They refused to completely give into their bodily desires and entirely succumb to each other while rejecting the world around them. They kept going to school. This is a constant point the author kept highlighting - that they kept doing 'normal routine things', mostly driven by the MC, rather than just nonstop fucking each other senseless, ignoring the sanctity of their own bodies and rejecting the existence of all other people. Put another way, many of their actions were such that they could recover if the next day were indeed to happen. They kept a handle on their actions having consequences. Now of course they ignored this on multiple occasions, but it was always one-offs. I think what happens in the end there is it going from one-off to complete commitment to no longer giving a fuck. And it is that abandonment of the routine and the very idea of playing along with the loop that finally frees them.

However how we can draw a moral lesson from that is not something I quite see yet. Maybe we can make some sort of argument for taking risks. Like they only moved forward after they decided to risk it all, but I don't really see it. It's weird. They essentially gave up their sanity to get free.

I don't want to accept that the author ran out of time to give all the puzzle pieces, it would be a real shame if so.

Another point we must fully analyze is if this isn't 'modern art route' and there really wasn't logic to it. While I hate the interpretation, its not impossible. I've gone to enough modern art galleries and exhibitions to know these people love pulling this sort of crap to comment on certain genres and tropes.

 

[crossx1993]

"Have Sex"
-Shinzo Abe to Author, probably.
But seriously, is sex the answer to every time loop manga?

Wish we had like 100 more chapters, this ending would've been perfect if only it had a more meaningful story behind it, because, them just having sex and going rampant the chapter right before this makes it lose all the value it had built up until now.

That's just my opinion, though.

didn't they literally keep looping over and over for a very long time after having sex,it was a very long timz after that they literally drifted apart.
unless i missed something

 

[K8Skies]

I guess they just rode out the loop. Who friggin knows if it took them a fire punch amount of time, but it seems this loop just wasn't infinite.

It might have been better not to tell the story in detail after they just let go of their sanity. It's fluffier this way.

 

[EntireInterent]

Sucks it got axed. The ending isn't good but to be expected. I liked the journey still though.

 

[SoldierZoom]

"Have Sex"
-Shinzo Abe to Author, probably.
But seriously, is sex the answer to every time loop manga?

if u look at the last chapter u can see the loop went on for a while after that and the girl got out whilst the dude ended up alone seems the loop just ended after a certain amount of time

 

[antarctico]

According to twitter, the author plans on writing a bonus chapter. My assumption it will be with the 3rd volume.
The author's quote:
"ありがとうございます…！！ おまけ漫画も描く予定なので、もう少々お待ちください！！"

Translated: "Thank you so much!! I'm also planning to draw a bonus manga, so please wait a little longer!!"

So, it looks like we have one more piece of the puzzle to wait for. Hopefully, this will answer enough of our questions as to provide a little more closure. I actually didn't hate the ending, I just wish we had another few chapters to better ease us into it. It was sweet that, after the innumerable loops, and all the existential torture, they remembered each other even without remembering the loop or why.

 

[LordofAlI]

I guess they fucked so hard they beat the time loop?? Though looking at the images and stuff from the previous chapter it seems the girl got out first then the guy? idk but I guess that's what happens when a series gets axed. Not much time to fully expand upon things and end properly.

 

[Alleras]

I was appreciating the slow burn and the underlying dread. It's a shame that the axe necessitated a rushed ending.

 

[K-Lye]

According to twitter, the author plans on writing a bonus chapter. My assumption it will be with the 3rd volume.
The author's quote:
"ありがとうございます…！！ おまけ漫画も描く予定なので、もう少々お待ちください！！"

Hopefully it’ll explain things better. That was such a lacklustre ending. I really can’t understand why so many smart capable manga authors simply struggle to write decent endings?!

 

[OtakuMan93]

"Have Sex"
-Shinzo Abe to Author, probably.
But seriously, is sex the answer to every time loop manga?

Wasn't it related to the answer in groundhog day too?