Potion, Wagami o Tasukeru - Ch. 7
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Editor: "Give a slave to the girl."
Author: "Why?"
Editor: "This is an isekai. Slaves are part of the genre."
Author: "Uh..."
Editor: "Find a way to make the girl a slave owner."
Author: "Why?"
Editor: "This is an isekai. Slaves are part of the genre."
Author: "Uh..."
Editor: "Find a way to make the girl a slave owner."
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Ah yes, ethical slavery, the best kind that causes no moral issues.
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Where do these authors get the idea that slavery could be cheaper in the long run. If you already live in a populated area, finding hired help for a reasonable price should be trivial. Owning a whole person takes a large lump sum upfront plus upkeep for having them live on your property.
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Glad to see she had actual reservations about buying a slave, and even though it was just one chapter for us, it was a decent amount of time in-world for her -and she was still reluctant even after being attacked at her own home. Not just a quick "Oh well, guess that's just how this world does things. Off to buy a person, then," thing that so many other isekai jump to.
The issue is that The guard has a time setting where they actually have to go home etc because guarding is just a job meanwhile the slave can stay with the MC 24/7
The other thing is that a Guard I imagine could betray you Unlike a slave where usually there's some magical rule bs that prevents them from hurting you
So yea the Large lump sum upfront might be expensive but the upkeep I imagine will be way cheaper then hiring a guard, its like investing on a big expensive vehicle that will eventually be able to pay for itself since your able to take on more things in it hence make more money
All in all if safety/money is a concern I imagine slavery is better long term then a guard
Something I always wondered when I looked at MC's house with tall grass, I'm surprised that the Authors never insert an issue with these places like a fuck load of ticks or mosquitoes etc, as soon as I saw those tall grass I'm like man how are there NOT any ticks there etc
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She could hire someone else for the night shift.
Hmm, I guess it is very convenient that slaves don't need any sleep, huh.
That is a major reason in many isekai indeed, but since this wasn't mentioned here I'm ignoring it. And she had a history of hiring people from a reputable establishment (the guild) and none betrayed her.
Yeah, I'm paranoid about meadows and thickets unless I'm completely bundled up and then check every inch of skin for ticks at home.
Insects are hardly ever mentioned in fantasy manga unless they're much larger than normal.
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You know... The 8 hour shift system will allow you to have a guard for 24 hours straight.
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NGL slavery exists in modern society, and most of us support it without even considering it slavery. It's just been rebranded to avoid the stigma that comes with word. Almost every country has a prison system, and most also enforce restitution for crimes and debts. So it matters more on how it's regulated, then the fact it exists.
How is that any different then what is portrayed in most isekai novels? What that slave is being abused you say? Google how many prisoners are literally beat to death in a year around the world... don't worry, I can wait while you do your own research.
Kidnapping people off the streets or small villages? Oh please, have you watched the news? There is a first world nation taking whole families and throwing them in makeshift guarded camps with little food and water. And half that nation cheered them on as they did it.
But they are not being sold into slavery you say? Have you seen the cost to profits of just housing prisoners? How much was it again that first world country paid out to a guy in South America to house prisoners? Hundreds of millions you say....
And that is only one form of modern slavery. We don't have to like it, and should be fighting against it and it's abuses, but don't think for an instant it doesn't exist here and now, on Earth, in the year of our AI overlords 2026.
Because even if you properly feed, house, and cloth a person, it is way cheaper then then paying a regular wage even with an upfront cost of purchase. Even more so when most medical expenses can be handled with a potion.
Where things start to fall apart is when resentment builds up to the point of rebellion and or self-harm.
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She is a Japanese isekai protagonist. At most she would want to restrain an assailant, but would much prefer to just scare them away. One of those stones would would do neither of those things, and just outright kill someone it was thrown at.
True that might be an acceptable response from the audience's perspective, but not really one from the FML's. Unless she is going to specialize as a combatant, some kind of Guardian or bodyguard really is a better option.
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Nah. In populated areas like towns and villages it's cheaper, less troublesome, and more flexible to use local labor. You can hire as many as you need each day, cut their pay if they screw up, and easily find replacements if they get sick or die.
Slaves are more useful in remote places that are short on available hands and hard to escape from like distant colonies, plantations, mines, or galleys.
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That honestly depends on many factors, not all of which would readily apparent to someone of a different culture. Especially so when you consider the type of employee she would be hiring. Not arguing that an appropriate slave would be any easier to aquire, only that the process of hiring and vetting a bodyguard would cost just as much as finding and purchasing a slave would be.
No not really. Unless your hiring unskilled labor, you're going to want to do a much more thorough background check on anyone you're going to be hiring. Especially so if you need someone to deal with money or security. And if you can fire a screwup, why wouldn't you be able to sell/trade one back to the slave merchant?
And I truely think you are underestimating how easy it is to find and hire competent and reliable employees...
Useful yes, but not exclusively so. Frankly hired employees would be just as subject to the conditions any slave would, and while true a non-slave would be able to quit, most wouldn't unless conditions were truely abhorrent.
Why are they always so tied to using slaves? Seriously!! Indentured servants are right there! So many fewer negative connotations. Unless they're extremely tied to the fact that you own them for life and they're property instead of just being "stronger than employment"
It's like they feel like these alternate worlds need slaves to prove they're more barbaric. The MCs always get slaves, but they're the good kind of slave owner which doesn't abuse their slaves unlike the evil slave owners.
It's one of my least favorite things about reading manga. Both the slave stuff, and the sexualization of child-like bodies is just so weird.
It's like they feel like these alternate worlds need slaves to prove they're more barbaric. The MCs always get slaves, but they're the good kind of slave owner which doesn't abuse their slaves unlike the evil slave owners.
It's one of my least favorite things about reading manga. Both the slave stuff, and the sexualization of child-like bodies is just so weird.
As opposed to a competent, reliable slave, one which both has the ability and willingness to kill on command AND not think about killing a single girl in the middle of nowhere, the act would not only grand them freedom but also everything in the house and said act would not be noticed for days?
There's a reason why slaves required many armed guards.
And you're forgetting she's already hired competent and reliable guards, through the guild who are tasked with vetting adventurers.
I get you, but so many isekai and fantasy want to hook on the "they're yours forever and thus can't betray you because magic"
If it was me giving someone a job so they can pay off their debts would be far easier to stomach if I needed such, but isekai gonna isekai I guess ..
