Risou no Himo Seikatsu - Vol. 17 Ch. 69 - Change

[Screenwatch]

I’m of the exact opposite opinion; I don’t understand why they’re so consistently nervous of him. He’s ambitious, sure, but that’s no crime in either a noble or a military man, and given that he’s now reached the pinnacle of his ambition — the only way to improve on being Marshal is to join the royal family, which he can’t do — what’s the problem?

He’s never shown a hint of disloyalty. On the contrary, during that business with the forbidden hallway, he absolutely went to the mat for Zenjirou, refusing to let insults to his liege lord stand unanswered even as Zenjirou himself was trying to downplay them.

So yeah, he’s a big scary dude who wants to do well. And given that he’s on their side, that’s a good thing to have.

I do want to point out that the hallway incident where he defend Zenjirou is EXACTLY the type of shit they worry about. He wasn’t defending Zenjirou for his honor, but to take political hostage. Its a theme that his constant want for more, his ambitions so to speak, may cause more problems than answers. For example, causing resentment with a neighboring country you were at war with just recently, but his new wife has been able to properly navigating him now.

This leads to their worry because as they mentioned, it would be fine if she was just making sure he doesn’t do anything excessive, but its not like he is any less ambitious. So if she keeps on helping him with his ambitions, there is reasons to be of concern for. He really won’t cause a revolution or anything extreme like that because he wants the kingdom with teleportation magic. That is to say, he has no intentions of letting the royal family die. But it is in his interest to strip them of power to become a puppet position as he becomes the true ruler of the kingdom. Which is of course a huge concern for the royal family, cause they don’t want to be puppets.

 

[CapnAndy]

I do want to point out that the hallway incident where he defend Zenjirou is EXACTLY the type of shit they worry about. He wasn’t defending Zenjirou for his honor, but to take political hostage. Its a theme that his constant want for more, his ambitions so to speak, may cause more problems than answers. For example, causing resentment with a neighboring country you were at war with just recently, but his new wife has been able to properly navigating him now.

This leads to their worry because as they mentioned, it would be fine if she was just making sure he doesn’t do anything excessive, but its not like he is any less ambitious. So if she keeps on helping him with his ambitions, there is reasons to be of concern for. He really won’t cause a revolution or anything extreme like that because he wants the kingdom with teleportation magic. That is to say, he has no intentions of letting the royal family die. But it is in his interest to strip them of power to become a puppet position as he becomes the true ruler of the kingdom. Which is of course a huge concern for the royal family, cause they don’t want to be puppets.

I mean, I guess? But so far he’s done nothing but act in their interests as he sees them. The military guy you put in charge of the military wants a strong military, what a terrible shock.

He’s doing his job, he’ll get better at it over time and with his wife’s guidance, and he’s one power player of four. If the other three can’t keep him in check, they deserve to be puppets. But they can. I see a functioning government.

 

[adrianojuniocunha]

Love that image. No idea where it is from, but looks like it'd for perfectly in an SNES or N64 era game. I do think it is too high in fidelity for that though.

Dont know! Search on https://giphy.com/ for world and after some scrolling you gonna find it.

 

[RonBWL]

I mean, I guess? But so far he’s done nothing but act in their interests as he sees them. The military guy you put in charge of the military wants a strong military, what a terrible shock.

He’s doing his job, he’ll get better at it over time and with his wife’s guidance, and he’s one power player of four. If the other three can’t keep him in check, they deserve to be puppets. But they can. I see a functioning government.

Corrections: He acts in others' interest in such a way that benefits HIM in the end.
-During the hallway incident, he defended Zenjirou with the intention to one-up the Navare kingdom.
-When Zenjirou wanted to go to the Twin Kingdoms, he himself suggested a near-foolproof plan that let Zenjirou go immediately. The result? Winning Zenjirou's favor and self-nominate to be Marshal (Which he successfully achieved).
-His decree was for-the-country-in-names, as Aura pointed out that his "excuse" was perfect. So he stands to benefit the most in the end while showing off as a good guy.

 

[wilddeath]

Firstly he may be ambitious but from what we can deduct he is also massively competent, secondly being ambitious is not a crime, you can't get rid of everyone with a bit of greed from the political landscape or you'll end up with no one left, thirdly he is already pretty powerful so even if they wanted to they can't root him out without a solid reason and not risk a civil war

He could have an... accident and his body never be found.... teleportation can be very useful in removing evidence like bodies...

 

[Screenwatch]

I mean, I guess? But so far he’s done nothing but act in their interests as he sees them. The military guy you put in charge of the military wants a strong military, what a terrible shock.

He’s doing his job, he’ll get better at it over time and with his wife’s guidance, and he’s one power player of four. If the other three can’t keep him in check, they deserve to be puppets. But they can. I see a functioning government.

The fact that he’s not actually doing anything bad is exactly why he can stay in power. And people keeping an eye on him is their way to keep him in check. Thats sort of the point, nothing is actually being done to him but they need to keep an eye on him in case he does. You don’t ever want to be reactive in these type of things.

 

[Aureliano]

Japanese honorifics on top of Duke is redundant, just get rid of them.

 

[kikix12]

It's not like they can't get tree seeds anyway, they don't exactly strip-search diplomats before they leave...

Yes. But if they ever found out trees that are native to Capua kingdom in Twin Kingdoms, the latter would be in a political predicament, having to pay massive damages etc.

It's not really worth it, especially when their climate alone may make it a waste of said risk.

 

[radstylix]

Noice.

Puyol like a little boy that just received his bucket of toy soldiers lol. "In times of peace, prepare for war" is a wise decision though, but obviously it's easier to say like with how things are going in the series.

And aside from the plants possibly becoming invasive, Zenjirou's correct about not strengthening the other kingdom too much without benefit for themselves.

But more importantly, do you have enough personnel Duke Bilbo?

 

[Rhin]

He is kinda late to realise that danger that the technology and knowledge he possesses can bring into this world uh, but at least he did notice it. He already introduced glasswork and the compass, two VERY big technological changes, specially in addition to magic tool making, and im not mentioning his PC or the AC cause those are supposed to be a secret, and remain in the inner palace.
Lets hope they build into this, instead of just forgetting it ever happened.

 

[AAA1]

The general is a massive downside to this. Why keep allowing all his ambition when it's clearly getting in the way of mc an aura.

That kind of decision can possibly make a civil war just because you FEEL right. Being a wise leader is forcing your own feeling to not be a downside of your populate. This is why monkey d dragon haven't yet make a move even though he have the urges to do so. Information is the key to control high capable people like puyol

 

[derpdederp]

 

[Lame_Security]

She still supports her husband but she's also working as a leash to prevent him from running too wild.

And that's why she's dangerous; Without her Puyol might eventually hit the tipping point of tolerance and face severe repercussion from Aura and potentially other nobles who he happened to offend. With her however, he can constantly dance on the fine line of authority and play technicalities for years, and sometimes he can even do so without arousing suspicion while still building influence.

 

[WhimsiCat]

And that's why she's dangerous; Without her Puyol might eventually hit the tipping point of tolerance and face severe repercussion from Aura and potentially other nobles who he happened to offend. With her however, he can constantly dance on the fine line of authority and play technicalities for years, and sometimes he can even do so without arousing suspicion while still building influence.

Puyol has been doing that 'dance on the fine line' since forever ago, he knew enough to not 'hit the tipping point' (how do you think he even got this Marshal position?)

Like why do you think Aura chose to observe further for now? It's because right now Lucenda is NOT a 'threat'
Guess what's an easy way for her to start becoming one? Antagonizing her first.

 

[morichiro]

Common Massive Puyol W

What a gigachad

You meant massive W for his wife.

 

[fight2live]

every day, we stray further from sponger life

 

[DeadVoid]

They aren't buying wood from Capua anyway. Never have. It was just an idea, but a difficult one because of the great distance (without using teleportation). Duke Bilbo himself suggested coal, which would make it somewhat more plausible.

At the end of the day, if the TwinKingdoms don't have forests, it's because the environment can't support them or they chopped them all down. In the former case, they won't have them either. In the latter case, they would just be restoring something that used to be, so who would blame them for it? Such blaming has never led to any real consequences in our world, has it? Even more gross examples didn't change anything, such as cheap labour countries copying product designs from older industrialised countries and then selling the copies as their own. It has caused a lot of fuming, but that's all. And that's a much worse case than someone planting a forest.

The source of the wood doesn't entirely matter, a tree farm appearing on their land at all is enough to sour relations and cause wars. If the trees could at all be traced to Capua, it would harm Capua's relations with the wood suppliers (which is not what you want in a nation still recovering from a war). If Capua says the Twins weren't allowed to take the seeds, the end result is either the same as I stated previously (people angry at the Twins) or similarly people are still angry at the Twins and maybe also Capua if they aren't believed.

This kind of thing absolutely has led to wars in the real world, just petty wars on a more local scale prior to industrialization and globalization being a thing. Yes, sometimes wars do not happen (given the intricacies of diplomacy and sometimes reliance on foreign powers) but a 'maybe' is always a risky gamble and I would argue it's actually more likely given their culture and systems of governance (It's a lot easier to wage war and be petty on a national level pre-industrialization especially when you're ruled by a monarch).

Literally in this chapter it is made abundantly clear environmentalism isn't really a thing. There's no concept of restoring an ecosystem, and even if there were (they definitely know you can over-consume natural resources) it's almost certainly not held in the same light as our post-industrialization view where our need to shepherd and control our ecologically-influencing actions is vastly more significant. I doubt the "we're just restoring the land" excuse would fly.

 

[Rob9972]

Let's just hope that Puyol or his actions won't be a reason for Zeijiro to use that repulsor bracelet

 

[AnotherDuck]

Because if you get rid of everyone competent just because they are ambitious you end up with modern day Russia eventually,

And that's why the biggest one is still there. They only got rid of the competent ambitious people.

They want to take the trees from a tropical country... and grow them in a desert? If big trees could grow there, it wouldn't be a desert.

You can grow trees in a desert. They're doing it in Africa currently, to stop Sahara from spreading. It's going to take quite a while to make it into a sustainable forest industry, though.

 

[finalm]

He could have an... accident and his body never be found.... teleportation can be very useful in removing evidence like bodies...

He's a powerful figure, from a family good enough to be considered a candidate for the seat of king consort. Not only that, he's well liked by many, especially the soldiers. No matter how well you disappear him, no matter how fervently you deny having anything to do with it, there's just no escaping the consequences. There would be a huge schism between the royal family and all the nobles who backed his faction. Civil war would be likely, a conflict that all but paralyzes the country's functioning would be inevitable. It's just not worth it at all, especially since right not there's no justification to move against him - he's done nothing to compromise the country or the royals yet. He's also useful due to his skills and authority. An autocratic ruler is always balancing his need for the people he employs against his distrust of them and Aura is used to it. Recall that she didn't really trust the MC to have her best interest in mind, since it was so outlandish in that culture for a man to take up a support role to a woman, rather than force it the other way.