RTA Sousha wa Game Sekai kara Kaerenai - Vol. 5 Ch. 20

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Aren't you being a bit harsh? From their point of view, it makes sense to be suspicious and cautious, even if they're going a bit overboard. Look at the facts:
I'm not accusing the politicians of anything in particular, though I do think it's absurd. We lack enough information about their point of view or the current wider situation to make any sweeping judgements.

We're just desensitized by years of watching OP isekai protagonists effortlessly steam roll everything, so we find it hard to emphasize with anyone doubting it happening here.
What I am annoyed about is people pushing this as "realistic" or "depth". It's another conflict for the MC to effortlessly roll until proven otherwise. It's not "depth" for people who probably have no actually particular reason for this conflict or hope of victory to choose to fight it, nor is it "depth" to dunk on them heckin' evil conservative nobles. It's just another masturbatory thing isekai authors tend to do. Doesn't make it any less entertaining but it sure isn't deep until we get shown the depth.
 
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Thanks for all your great work in translating this manga. Godspeed!
 
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"Alright, a control question to start us off, to show how the flame works. Otherworldly hero, have you defeated the demon king? We know the answer's no, so just answer accordingly."

"Uhhhhhh..."
 
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So everything is the goddess's fault? Why are they still worshipping her when she created the problem.
Surely they should also learn from this right? They literally know the goddess betrayed the hero which caused him to become the demon lord and the saintess to become the witch, even then they have the stupid idea to capture the hero. Like do you want another demon lord!? Who can quite literally end the world in a minute.
 
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They still modeled their temu high lords of Terra council after that 7 headed dragon who rekt that world in the first place. Yeah I get before the Dragon betrayal it was a important cultural icon of their civilization but the other heads still sided with that one traitor head. You might want to reconsider changing up that national icon since it pretty much put this world into a cyclical centennial trash fight.

Also, if you are gonna send the hero back either tell the dude upfront or at least do it before he has children. I more surprised that none of his children revolted. (Maybe the big twist here the elite demons are descendants after the Witch and Demon lord decided to get freaky again :smug:)
 
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Nah, I get it. As annoying as it is, conservative idiots in charge is kinda just a natural fate for any sort of governing body. They trust their own common sense over the results in front of their eyes, and any facts they see can be twisted to suit their interpretations.
Just because you're leaders doesn't mean you're competent, and just because you're competent doesn't mean you can't have massive blind spots due to fear, personal agendas, and complacency.

All that said, a lie detector kinda makes this work out. They're basically begging him to just tell the truth and utterly destroy their common sense. I say Shachiku gives them one last chance with the following claims before telling them everything and letting their worlds collapse.
  • "I don't know how the other heroes were, but in my old world, we have a way of simulating our journey to take down the Demon King in this world and so I'm actually very well-versed in defeating the Elite Four and Demon King." No black flame.
    • "To that end, the reason I immediately ran off is because I was trying to defeat one of them in a very narrow timeframe of opportunity" No black flame implicitly suggests it's referencing a vulnerbility in the Elite Four even when it's about frame-perfect speedrunning.
  • "I am a spy." Black flame proving this claim false.
  • "I have ill intentions for this world and/or kingdom." Black flame proves this claim false.
  • "My goal is sincerely to defeat the Elite Four and Demon King so this world can be at peace."
  • Optionally, "My methods are confusing and hard to explain in a way that you would understand. Everyone I explained them to suggested I not bother."
And if all that fails...well, they're literally asking for it. Break their understanding of reality as they know it.
You said it yourself - the guys in charge might have their own agendas/presumptions/whatever that they will value more highly than the truth. The black flame itself might not be something that always tells the truth, after all, that's just the claim of the ability's owner and who knows how it really works. It might be possible to make it announce whatever conclusion you like, or it might just not be any kind of lie detector at all and simply manifest at the user's preference, while being validated only due to said user's social position - this is how "justice" worked under feudalism, after all. Even if it is for real and confirms the MC's innocence - who's to say that they won't simply announce that the demon king gave him the ability to subvert it?
 

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