Seirei-tachi no Rakuen to Risou no Isekai Seikatsu - Vol. 2 Ch. 11

[urtoast]

Assuming a spirit's age based on appearance. Psssh, what a noob.

 

[aigomorla]

Is that a grown up bell on the cover...
Oh man that's on hell of a spoiler

 

[Mojo]

@ Nogoodimaginativename
I've given some thought about item box loop holes before. What would and would not be considered "living" by them? For example, are you familiar with scions? A young shoot or twig of a plant, especially one cut for grafting or rooting. All apples we eat today are clones made from grafting scones on to root stock. You can buy them on the internet for 1/10th the price of a whole fruit tree in a big box store. But they are basically fresh green STICKS. Would that count or not count are living to a item box? If it counts then would you never be able to put green firewood in the item box.

What if you have a fatally injured team mate? They would survive if given the right medical treatment by an expert but you are far from help. Could you put their fresh body in the item box and give them CPR to restart their heart and breathing once you take them out?

Lastly, there are always millions of unseen microbes on people, objects, everywhere. If living things can't enter item boxes, does that mean I could use it as a means of sterilizing things like bandages or canning jars? Would a contaminated piece of meat with parasite in it (something common when hunting wild game, it's why they recommend always thoroughly cooking meat you hunt) become safe to eat if put in a item box because the living, harmful things would be left out of the item box and only the clean edible meat go into it?

I have a feeling the author didn't give it much thought. It's such a common trope I seen over and over that I can't help but wonder about it from time to time.

 

[RonBWL]

@aigomorla That would be

Spoiler

The forest spirit

 

[aigomorla]

@RonBWL
:O

@Mojo
i can tell you have never had a planted fishtank before.
In soil, there needs to be nitrifying bacteria.
In scientific / farming terms, its called the nitrogen cycle.

Its not just any bacteria, its a specific type of bacteria used to convert NO2->NO3

The Gnome obviously meant this, the author probably didnt want to go into a large science debate about it, but without these bacteria, the soil is basically useless.
Here is how complicated and important these bacteria are...

Spoiler

This is also why they needed a pre existing soil with bacteria.

But how he put the soil with bacteria in a bag which should of filtered out the living bacteria is a x-files loop hole.

 

[Truerror]

Lolis are lolis.

 

[Kuratenshi]

Lol. Thanks for the chapter

 

[CountryMage]

@Mojo This comes up a lot in videogames, you're often expected to store away plant seeds, eggs, or saplings, for use in some event or game mechanic, and unless stated otherwise, food still spoils in your inventory. So there should still be some living matter, and bacteria, in a videogame character's storage, which should also apply to most isekai MCs.

 

[Flashplayer0CD]

@echonic yeah the author did not think about that whatsoever

 

[Nk9bjP4A]

I don't think the MC has grown anything in 8 months

 

[JJTheWeeb]

@mojo @aigomorla maybe the whole "living being" refresh to things with a "conscious", not barebones living (does bacteria decide if it wants to do the chemical reaction thing, or it just does chemical reactions to survive, but nothing else from there). It still dumb, but it's a theory. Maybe if I knew what the Japanese they used to write "living being" implied it'd help, idk.

 

[Happily_Grim]

@Aichan - You may be right, this might be like an isekai farmville (while i've never played any fb game, I assume its like this?) or some similar type game. Still kind of a fun SOL read, though.
Also, does Ai-chan always speak in third person? It's not that I dislike it or anything; just curious.

 

[Kisato]

I was expecting The Martian soil mixing.

 

[Garnt69]

Jokes aside, his intention to revitalizes the dead land are very noble.

 

[smashman42]

@Kisato yeah, when he asked old mate if there was an option other than healthy soil to seed it, I was totally expecting that.

 

[Mojo]

@aigomorla Actually my sister was a manager for a pet store I've seen her set up salt water coral tanks at home including the plant life. And I am well aware what the nitrogen cycle is, hell I even inoculated my peas/beans with beneficial bacteria before planting them in the garden so to be doubly sure I'm getting optimized nitrogen fixing in the soil. Hint, when a person brings out terms like "scions" they are most likely to be a gardening otaku or have a home garden, or worked in a plant nursery. Or all three in my case.

I think that @CountryMage or @JJTheWeeb have it right. It's either that the author is copying some game mechanic where the item box doesn't' freeze time and/or the item box defines living beings differently. Bacteria are living beings but don't have a consciousness like a mouse or a human. I'd also like to have a more detailed translation of the kanji used in "living being" it might indeed give a hint as to what the author meant.

Any way thanks all for the replys 😀

 

[Nogoodimaginativename]

@RonBWL

@Nogoodimaginativename Probably because they're considered part of a non-living thing (the soils) and thus their characteristics are ignored

That's what I mean, it seems kinda poor reasoning...

Thanks for the chapter btw

@Mojo
Yeah totally agree with you on all the abusing and exploiting of the time-freeze mechanic

@aigomorla

But how he put the soil with bacteria in a bag which should of filtered out the living bacteria is a x-files loop hole.

Exactly my point

@JJTheWeeb

@mojo @aigomorla maybe the whole "living being" refresh to things with a "conscious", not barebones living (does bacteria decide if it wants to do the chemical reaction thing, or it just does chemical reactions to survive, but nothing else from there). It still dumb, but it's a theory. Maybe if I knew what the Japanese they used to write "living being" implied it'd help, idk.

I like this reasoning the best, define it by consciousness, or at least a minimum degree of consciousness.

 

[RC1138Boss]

It is back! Thanks.

 

[justforthelulz]

Like the soil in the Land of the Dead, this manga has been revived.

 

[quietlyhereoccasionally]

ther's something about stories of reviving dead land that I just absolutely adore. You can do it!

Everyone in this manga is such a cutie though. I love it!