Sensitive Boy - Ch. 80 - Opening Up

[ImabotStw]

As much as I think what she did is wrong; that is SO true. No one blinked twice when Orihime did it to Ichigo.

IIRC Orihime didn't kiss Ichigo in the end.

 

[JackWasGone]

I think the big difference here is that she's asleep. If someone forces a kiss and the other party can technically shove them away, that's not as awful. (Also, she could have gone for the cheek and not lips, etc.) But because she's incapacitated, it could be seen as assault.

That said, I don't think SA is necessarily the right term here? That might be a better one to keep for a more aggressive approach. Regardless, this is the kind of behavior that's uncomfortable in manga (as in RL) regardless of orientation. I think calling it out is a more recent development among readers, and I can't say I'm upset about that trend.

If you really love someone, you can also respect that they may not reciprocate your feelings, and you don't have to try to force your emotions on them. (It can be more challenging as a teenager, because everything feels really intense when you're going through it for the first time, but it's a good lesson to learn.) There's a big contrast between the two 'relationships' we see here ...

Unfortunately, this is textbook "Sexual assault" by 2 main reasons.
1. She was asleep, regardless of if this was platonic or romantic, she could not give consent. Whether verbal or implied. She quite literally forced herself onto her.

2. Kissing is a sexual act. Regardless of what you (not you OP but just in general) may think, or how your culture may proceive it, kissing especially upon the lips is a sexual act. This was an unwanted sexual act, as we know she has feelings for her.

 

[Dark1400]

Come on, I was rooting for the girl, but that was not OK, and I hope is treated as such next chapter

...still hope things go well to her, but this this needs to be addressed properly

 

[KDDV]

Remember guys, consent is a must in real life. Might ruin the moment but its better than scaring the other and catching cases.

 

[JackWasGone]

Ya know my dislike for this character started to grow from her outburst towards the boyfriend, but instead of talking to your friend that you have a crush on about your feelings, you decided to force yourself onto her without her consent.....

 

[KitRagnell]

The bros!!

 

[NeverAnother]

I get the feeling, but in my opinion an unwarranted sleep-kiss is just NEVER a good move.

 

[Goodbyefrankenstein]

I think the big difference here is that she's asleep. If someone forces a kiss and the other party can technically shove them away, that's not as awful. (Also, she could have gone for the cheek and not lips, etc.) But because she's incapacitated, it could be seen as assault.

That said, I don't think SA is necessarily the right term here? That might be a better one to keep for a more aggressive approach. Regardless, this is the kind of behavior that's uncomfortable in manga (as in RL) regardless of orientation. I think calling it out is a more recent development among readers, and I can't say I'm upset about that trend.

If you really love someone, you can also respect that they may not reciprocate your feelings, and you don't have to try to force your emotions on them. (It can be more challenging as a teenager, because everything feels really intense when you're going through it for the first time, but it's a good lesson to learn.) There's a big contrast between the two 'relationships' we see here ...

No, its SA.
Im a lesbian and if I found out one of my guy friends kissed me in my sleep id feel violated. This only works in fiction because either they both secretly already liked eachother, the other person just doesnt find out, the concept of consent is never really spoken nor exists.
It is a shitty thing to do irl and people thinking that action is okay perpetuates the idea uninformed consent is consent when it's not.

Obviously this is a work of fiction so I as well as others are free to separate life from art and go "kyaaaaa she made a move" because woah yuri development but it is vital to understand that that was not consent and not okay to romanticize to the point its deemed acceptable irl.

 

[Dark1400]

No, its SA.
Im a lesbian and if I found out one of my guy friends kissed me in my sleep id feel violated. This only works in fiction because either they both secretly already liked eachother, the other person just doesnt find out, the concept of consent is never really spoken nor exists.
It is a shitty thing to do irl and people thinking that action is okay perpetuates the idea uninformed consent is consent when it's not.

Obviously this is a work of fiction so I as well as others are free to separate life from art and go "kyaaaaa she made a move" because woah yuri development but it is vital to understand that action is not okay lol

To be fair this manga has a good track on handling serious themes, like the first MC that was a victim of SA by a teacher, or the second MC with the toxic/codependent relationship with the idol(and all the fucked up stuff in the industry), so I hope this situation will also be handled appropriately.

 

[cybeast21]

What a good friend you have there

I always wonder why people saw those thing as "gross", I mean, that's just people expressing their feeling to each other.

(No, I don't mean Hina's situation, I mean the boys scene)

 

[EchoGirl]

The absolute peaks of the bonds of friendship and the depressing pitfalls of doomed yuri

I mean assuming it's an all girls school she'd have others to choose from unless it's affected her so much that she never gets closer to another girl again

(But if this was a full on Yuri focus /spinoff there'd prolly be an arc where she does get a proper girlfriend and Hina getting jealous despite being "straight")

Hope they talk it thru but i guess the bright side is if she distances herself and don't spend time together anymore she won't have to listen to her gush about her bfs

(Plot twist doodle at the end is part of some mini game author might release. Altho i can imagine the chibis maybe getting a line sticker at least$

 

[pink_rabbit]

IIRC Orihime didn't kiss Ichigo in the end.

Not in the end but she was reaaaally close. Plus, Disney has Snow White and Sleeping Beauty kissing them when the girls are sleep. Yes, its old but they still advertise it as a (hetero) love story to this day.

 

[andsavs]

i think a rejection is coming and honestly i hope her friend calls her out for kissing her without her consent.

 

[EchoGirl]

i think a rejection is coming and honestly i hope her friend calls her out for kissing her without her consent.

i think a spanish group was a few chapters ahead we get a flashback of them first meeting in class (she overheard ppl talking in the bathroom, not sure the exact dialogue; i guess they were shit talking her or the basic mean girl talk like "she's so full of herself, i don't wanna be friends with her" (if not maybe them being jealous/potentially a guy they liked was interested in her, usual teen reasons) in contrast to mahiro's relaxed personality/not caring)/becoming friends and she cries and runs off when it switches back to present time

 

[Peachblink]

IIRC Orihime didn't kiss Ichigo in the end.

Not only did she not kiss Ichigo in the end, she outright called herself an awful person for even thinking she should do that when he isn't awake and that she isn't that kind of person.

Like, people are free to slander Orihime if they want (I don't get the point but hey, they can do as they wish), but if you're going to slander her at least do it with things that actually happened for real instead of saying that she did something she very visibly didn't do. At least in the context of fiction, "almost did" and "did do" have fairly different connotations.

 

[LordofAlI]

Bruh she really fully kissed her while asleep...I thought at most she was going to then stop or maybe on the forehead or cheek or something. Well lets hope Hina just didn't realize somehow or whatever. Still really shouldn't have done that now espeically after she finally got a bf as well like come on. Nothing wrong with liking who you like but no matter gender or whatever it's still SA.

Now, I'm really glad Asahi has his friends supporting him. Best part of the chapter for me.

 

[SPARTAN-141]

I think the big difference here is that she's asleep. If someone forces a kiss and the other party can technically shove them away, that's not as awful. (Also, she could have gone for the cheek and not lips, etc.) But because she's incapacitated, it could be seen as assault.

That said, I don't think SA is necessarily the right term here? That might be a better one to keep for a more aggressive approach. Regardless, this is the kind of behavior that's uncomfortable in manga (as in RL) regardless of orientation. I think calling it out is a more recent development among readers, and I can't say I'm upset about that trend.

If you really love someone, you can also respect that they may not reciprocate your feelings, and you don't have to try to force your emotions on them. (It can be more challenging as a teenager, because everything feels really intense when you're going through it for the first time, but it's a good lesson to learn.) There's a big contrast between the two 'relationships' we see here ...

I think it's worse when the person is awake. It's a selfish shit thing to do to a sleeping person, but it's way more innocent of an intent.

 

[Doomroar]

cmon man that’s weirdo behavior

That's some Shinji behavior

 

[Sparrowhawk]

Kissing someone while they’re asleep/unconscious is fucked up, girl. Gross behavior.

 

[EulBassist]

Thanks for the chapter!