Shinju no Nectar - Ch. 41 - Uprising

[phil777]

Just purge those little upstarts. -.- Geez.

 

[zz2000]

The question is whether the author reveals Dr Alaia as the (obvious) mastermind, or he surprises the readers by saying the mastermind is another person and Alaia was just an innocent red herring.

 

[Cant_Roar]

@Kyujyu Thanks dude... idk, really since begging of this arc i feel so lost when it comes to recognizing characters and recent (detailed) plot... also, somehow Raiza feels really similar for me, to that girl captain that Grey have under him
[Edit]
ah, now i found it, that Raiza and Grey Captain girl are sisters, thats why they seems so similar xD

 

[alacaelum]

@gaigous Here in my country there was in its colonial period a revolutionary called Tiradentes ( it would translate to something like Teethtaker ) he was something like a makeshift dentist, dissatisfied if things he tried to overthrow the government by rallying the people... the catch, he was "sponsored" by the bourgeois class when shit hit the fan they threw him and some other "officials" of the plot to the government and that was that.

The case in the manga is obviously different, but the core is the same, some asshole with their own agenda manipulates the simple-minded and uses the revolution screen to mask their intentions.

Now the thing that surprised me the most... it seems that i was wrong about the doctor, it seems that she isn't the mastermind behind all this, this isn't completely clear yet, but i don't think that she would need to drag the girls to a secret magic house to only after betray them (if this happens, have to say, the author will be pulling a asspull with that).

 

[Darklight99]

I genuinely can't tell what's even happening anymore.

 

[alacaelum]

@Cant_Roar Raiza is Ligia little sister, the big tittied subordinate of Kai... and a harem member, even if the doesn't admit it, and Milva was one of the girls that killed that guy that didn't go with Kai's face and got to deep investigating, she has three moles in a triangle in her right? breast.

 

[lastKANAshimi]

OK so from this demand there are a few interesting posibilities here.
1) this is a power grab, by someone I do not know who but someone who wants to weaken the power of the nobles and the absolute monarch and and consolidate power into a single body from which they can control , Parliament.
2) this will probably be potentially someone in the lower nobility who wants to get rid of the more powerful nobles.
3) OR, the more fun possbility, this is a multi-dimensional chess plot by the queen to put richard into power. He has rejected the crown, but is still a prominent figure that would be easy to transition power to and as a bonus, move away from absolutism.

 

[Werebearguy]

Woo, dude kills himself for no real reason. Gotta love how a student at a military academy that's not even a greenhorn kills himself over nothing just to throw a hollow message. "WE WANT CHANGE" doesn't need to be followed up by blowing your brains out. Literally pointless to demand something, only to kill yourself right after.

Feels like this excessively long arc is finally coming to an end.

 

[Freezee]

@DeadKinginHell There's a very crucial part you are missing from your thoughts on government overall: human nature.

All types of governments will function "perfectly" in a vacuum with "perfect" people leading it. Education won't really matter per say, but it provides a means for humanity to keep "progressing".

...Human nature doesn't work like that though. Every person has their own personal agenda. You can work tirelessly your entire life helping to benefit everyone, but there's also another guy whose life mission is to make sure only they (and possibly those like them) have access to the best life possible at the expense of others.

While I personally want the best for all of humanity going forward, not everyone agrees to that notion. I'm not going to call it okay, but I at least understand why some (many?) people can only live life through outright... "superiority". It's something I find wrong, but there are those that quite literally take life as a "game" and they want to "win" at all costs with their 1 life. Any threat to their "progress" they would shut down as hard as possible. I am a videogame entertainment kind of person, so those are the terms I use to describe it. There's probably a non-game way of describing it.

Guess what types of people tend to rise to power by that thought. It's definitely not as simple as that, but being in a position of power requires a mindset that desires it. For those that try for it "for the good of everyone and everything", their choices in doing so while abiding to that idea are limited. Especially compared to those who use any means possible to put themselves at the top.

Anyway, looping it back to this manga here, the lady interacting with the main girls isn't definitive mastermind/plotter now. You just don't really know what you're actually dealing with until you dig deep. Fortunately, for the purposes of storytelling here, that is created and shown for the readers' enjoyment. In reality, it's almost always a shitshow you can only speculate on (though usually pretty accurately with some digging) unless you're in that position yourself.

 

[duy0699kat]

@DeadKinginHell any governing system is vulnerable to corruption since their cores are people with entrusted power, and they can always be corrupted: 1 king, a communist party or 2 branches of a tripartite system (T-rump!). There are downsides of separation of powers in a nation too such as they are slower, bigger and more divided. There are some examples of mixing systems like Vietnam, they're not really communism but something called "Leninism with Hochiminh Thought"

 

[lenovoaxioo]

I got the feeling that most students are wimps, so it's kinda impossible for this kind of big recolution demand actually come from inside the academy body (not to mention they are noble daughter and sons, people who would lose their privilege if the system is changed)

I'm excited too see the reveal.

 

[GoblinGuy]

@DeadKinginHell
Wouldn't it suck if bad people could get in power through lies, follow up on those lies, but meanwhile sneak in policies in education to lower the intelligence of the voting public to pave the way for more bad people with worse policies?
Of course that's not what happens in reality. Politicians don't follow up on their lies, just the bad policies.

 

[Mimcoa]

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Has the author some kind of mental illness ????

 

[KrimzonHawka]

@Werebearguy

I mean he's being mind controlled with mermaid blood drugs and sex, I rather doubt he actually had much choice in it 😅

I suspect the main plotters really expect this revolt to succeed or even care about those stated goals. This is about causing an embarrassing scandal to tarnish the reputation of the Queen and her family with a Jonestown esque mass suicide example, with all the students being viewed as expendable by the main plotters.

 

[EtanRed]

The pagan sex cult isn't doing this for democracy, guys. Is a ruse. For all we really know they only want religious sex cult shenanigans.

And look at that...we all suspected the nurse and she was a good egg after all.

 

[Kamelpov]

@DeadKinginHell The worst is still ahead with idiocracy showing the dumbing down of the people(by social design) expect worse each time for democracy. Fail example India and African countries

 

[Kamelpov]

@Werebearguy It's literally the same thing like "tibet monk setting themselves on fire"

 

[Salfaro]

It feels like a crackpot theory, but I wonder if maybe the doctor herself isn't the mastermind, but a "guardian" that possessed her (+the previous doctors). The introduction of an ancient camouflaged tower as a hiding place feels like it's gotta be significant somehow beyond being a convenient escape, which might be to introduce the idea that Sakura's transformation isn't a crazy/unique concept when it comes to relics of the age of the gods, and that the doctor has access to relics from that age too. Sakura also says that the temple is full of areas "nobody alive knows about", which would make sense if the cult was hiding away in them being led by some multi-generational mastermind who does actually have knowledge from back then. But then again, that knowledge could just as easily be passed down through the secret doctor research notes she mentioned, so who knows.

 

[kwendy]

F*cking revolution continues. We will f*ck the world by means of drugs and republicancy.
Students were often on the spear of coups and rebellions (though googling gave me whole page of exclusively modern history), but usually they were pushed on someone else's gun to grant some publicity and to make monsters out of evil government that kills students.
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@lito954 So, not suicidal at all? I'm getting more of a US marines vibe here with "do or die" attitude towards their masters will. It's in their motto after all.

 

[Kizuro]

For some reason I got bored following this manga, dropped.