Shin'yuu no Otto wo Ubatta no wa, Watashi deshita - Ch. 2

[UdenEmpati]

Was the author not Mahora?

Don't think it was ever implied she was, actually, at least from what I remember from the Author Notes of the original series.

 

[14Darius28]

Don't think it was ever implied she was, actually, at least from what I remember from the Author Notes of the original series.

From what I understand from other peoples points were that these events were somewhat true. That haruto was a fictional character. It's not been made clear which person was and to whom. So I'm confused.

 

[Mute2732]

That's the craziest take to throw on a whole sexuality. So here is some statistics from the 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), this CDC report is the first of its kind to account for a respondent’s sexual orientation. State that

The lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence and/or stalking by an intimate partner is extremely high in the lesbian, gay and bisexual community with lesbian women (43.8%), gay men (26%), bisexual women (61.1%), and bisexual men (37.3%) reporting experiencing this violence, compared to heterosexual women (35%) and heterosexual men (29%).

Lesbian women don't have it better over straight women. This trend is even worse in the 2016 to 2017 range (the 2023/24 hasn't been updated yet) with it climbing upto 51.7% for lesbian couples and 40%for heterosexual women.

If it was a choice I don't think many would because statistically your more likely to end up in an abusive relationship then not. Less people make that statistic more likely to happen to you.

Dog learn to read between the lines we were being sarcastic about women /wanting/ to be lesbians obviously it's not a choice

 

[UdenEmpati]

From what I understand from other peoples points were that these events were somewhat true. That haruto was a fictional character. It's not been made clear which person was and to whom. So I'm confused.

The general gist of the plot of the original/main series, is based on events that transpired in the life of someone the mangaka knew, and some of the characters are based on some of the people involved in those events.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

Was the author not Mahora?

No the author is the totally awesome, fully self-realized Lone Wolf Mangka who is a lone wolf only from choice who could has many friends as she wanted if she wanted them becasue she's such a cool, aloof self-sufficient cool lone wolf. The one who gave Kyouko the fingerprint kit she just happened to have because reasons.

i would've simply told him "the bride doesn't want us wearing dark colors" or so

Yeah black is mourning color, I always though you were supposed to wear lighter, cheerful colors to a wedding.
Not that Itsuki would have taken that any better, probably.

Other than a court order i can't imagine him or other similar ppl irl going "yeah i'm a piece of shit help me be better"
esp if they're an upper class rich person used to getting their way

Sometimes if they have the resources for self-improvement, a stark event (like melting down and cutting up a dress) might be the thing to help them realize just how bad shit has gotten is the wakeup call to realize they need to do something about it.

From what I understand from other peoples points were that these events were somewhat true. That haruto was a fictional character. It's not been made clear which person was and to whom. So I'm confused.

Other than Haruto who is the author's idealized husbando, all of the characters were based on either people the Mangaka knew irl (and maybe more than one person went into the same character) or were players in stories her friends told her of this sort of salacious shit.

 

[donlanthirion]

I'm assuming they're ok now if they can write about their experience and get some money back from it at least. tho pretty dark autobiographies like nagata kabi or whatever her name was and that one who had a manga loosely based on being part of a cult b/c of their parents

Let's hope she is okay.

Oh yeah, I am always concerned with Nagata Kabi's health. I wonder if her life did get better after the pancreas manga. I don't know the other story, though.

Was the author not Mahora?

You know, this question got me confused because I never thought who the author/narrator was. I assumed it was an "anonymous" narrator that portrayed the story mainly through Mahoro's PoV, although we could see some flashbacks from Kyouko's and Momoka's PoV. I guess Mahora can be the author, then!? Or what @Friendly-Sentence710 just said before me LOL.

I was referring to this character from the prequel, though:

https://imgur.com/9txLk55

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

Let's hope she is okay.

Oh yeah, I am always concerned with Nagata Kabi's health. I wonder if her life did get better after the pancreas manga. I don't know the other story, though.


You know, this question got me confused because I never thought who the author/narrator was. I assumed it was an "anonymous" narrator that portrayed the story mainly through Mahoro's PoV, although we could see some flashbacks from Kyouko's and Momoka's PoV. I guess Mahora can be the author, then!? Or what @Friendly-Sentence710 just said before me LOL.

I was referring to this character from the prequel, though:

https://imgur.com/9txLk55

I am going to start a petition to force the Japanese government to ban characters with berets from Manga.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Everyone here talking about statistics and empathy, but missing the REAL question:

Itsuki cut up the dress he bought her because she didn't wear it.
Rio cheated on him with Rei and put it on OnlyFans.
So is he also going to scissor up his penis when they get back from the party?
Discuss.



other than cheating on Rei as a way to get back at her husband and Mahoro for having a better life than she does, nothing will be her fault and it'll all be Itsuki. She was simply forced to make these terrible decisions because of everything outside of her control and she couldn't have done anything to change that, other than cheat on a different guy.

Even if she couldn't get a divorce there was simply nothing she could have done. She couldn't have just moved out, she couldn't have . no,clearly her only option was wrecking her friends marriage and then trying to turn them on each other.
because Rei's milkshake brings all the terrible friends to the yard.

Becasue that's how the genre goes. So while people need to at least somewhat on board with the genre rules, you also can't accuse people of lack of empathy when they point out the obvious plotholes, motivation flaws, and logical inconsistencies. Because much like the Isekai world just happens to be identical to the MC's favorite videogame the goal is versimilitude for the genre audience, not realism.

So don't confuse being unwilling to empathize with a character due to annoyance at genre rules with the lack of ability.

All I know is reading the main story, then this, has me thinking that Rio is currently trapped in an abusive relationship and chose very toxic and destructive ways to cope with her situation, and I can sympathize with her situation while condemning her decisions as they affect the events and characters of the main series.
I don't see this as Itsuki forcing her into her course of action, because I have the example of Mahoro showing that Rio could have chosen a different path. I interpret Rio's decision not to, as being due to aspects of her character that differ from Mahoro, and not because of Itsuki's pressuring her into an inevitable course of action - at least as far as we've seen.

I don't believe I'm forced either into or out of that position because of the genre or formulae utilized by the mangaka or rules of manga categorization.

If that's the incorrect way for me to engage with this genre of work because of the rules and rationale you've stated, then sucks to be me, I guess.

 

[donlanthirion]

All I know is reading the main story, then this, has me thinking that Rio is currently trapped in an abusive relationship and chose very toxic and destructive ways to cope with her situation, and I can sympathize with her situation while condemning her decisions as they affect the events and characters of the main series.
I don't see this as Itsuki forcing her into her course of action, because I have the example of Mahoro showing that Rio could have chosen a different path. I interpret Rio's decision not to, as being due to aspects of her character that differ from Mahoro, and not because of Itsuki's pressuring her into an inevitable course of action - at least as far as we've seen.

I don't believe I'm forced either into or out of that position because of the genre or formulae utilized by the mangaka or rules of manga categorization.

If that's the incorrect way for me to engage with this genre of work because of the rules and rationale you've stated, then sucks to be me, I guess.

I think your way of engaging with this story is perfectly fine. Go for it! And be happy!

 

[gum_rummy]

That's the craziest take to throw on a whole sexuality. So here is some statistics from the 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), this CDC report is the first of its kind to account for a respondent’s sexual orientation. State that

The lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence and/or stalking by an intimate partner is extremely high in the lesbian, gay and bisexual community with lesbian women (43.8%), gay men (26%), bisexual women (61.1%), and bisexual men (37.3%) reporting experiencing this violence, compared to heterosexual women (35%) and heterosexual men (29%).

Lesbian women don't have it better over straight women. This trend is even worse in the 2016 to 2017 range (the 2023/24 hasn't been updated yet) with it climbing upto 51.7% for lesbian couples and 40%for heterosexual women.

If it was a choice I don't think many would because statistically your more likely to end up in an abusive relationship then not. Less people make that statistic more likely to happen to you.

Looks like I struck a nerve. Just like I strike my lesbian wife.

 

[dogmeister238]

Don't think it was ever implied she was, actually, at least from what I remember from the Author Notes of the original series.

i don't think the author is either character. i think they're just mediums to illustrate her various experiences. maybe she's been rio, mahoro, kyouko, and momoka during different parts of her life.

 

[UdenEmpati]

i don't the author is either character. i think they're just mediums to illustrate her various experiences. maybe she's been rio, mahoro, kyouko, and momoka during different parts of her life.

Most of the named characters, sans Haruto, are based on people in the author's own life.

The actual events of the story, are based on experiences of someone the author knows.

 

[Natsu7411]

The author doesn't stop dropping the afterword nukes

Also "as the story progressed", this is just chapter 2.

I think they mean in the other story as well, with how hardcore he went in the ending chapters.

 

[Cynn]

Just read it as providing context for how Rio got to where she was in Mahoro's story.

It's not redemption or a defense, simply illuminating.

Yes, I guess that’s what I’m here for, just some context from Rio on how things got where they did.

I feel like we went on such a ride with the main story, and a big question hanging in the air after Rio couldn’t deny the affair was “Rio, why? How did this affair even come to be?” and this is the answer for the readers.

 

[AnonymousContributor]

The genre here isn't well rounded complex life tales, its housewife escapism. Hence Rio can't really be at fault for anything.
See also: Kyouko.

I.e. how we never get into the ethics of slavery in Isekai (the point is to show how good of a guy the MC is and/or why he has just no gosh darn choice but to build a harem) or why no one calls the cops in a RomDram, or why in RomComs the perfect 12/10 class idol secretly has a crush on the gloomy MC and shares his favorite series.

idk man i did see one but the mc was let's say not a saint lmao (but that being said his opponents are actively genocidal and have slavery) and it was a kr isekai novel and the world was literally earth but more magical