Tensei Shitara Hime Datta node Dansou Joshi Kiwamete Saikyou Mahou Tsukai Mezasuwa - Vol. 1 Ch. 3 - Episode 3

[MangaDex]

 

[RePlay_]

this joke page will likely make you ship for these two till the end of the series

Spoiler

thats what i call "the power of typesetting (lol)"
and its joke, so ofc its not real (probably), just dont take it too seriously

 

[Saon]

Man, the action in this chapter is just...


exactly what happens when your game stutters during a cutscene and runs under 15 fps.

 

[Thepandas12]

I don't know what to post here... so here's a random video.

 

[Blaze_Rod]

"Oh no! He has poison behind his back! I've gotta do something!"

Just warn dude he has a hidden syringe behind his back. Or just tell him to shoot some magic.

Proceeds to say nothing, wastes time fighting their bonds and then clumsily tackles the guy and gets kidnapped.

Are you fucking kidding me.

 

[Saon]

Just warn dude he has a hidden syringe behind his back. Or just tell him to shoot some magic.



Are you fucking kidding me.

While I mostly agree, but she actually didn't get kidnapped for the second time. I know, it's confusing.

Also, just like the action in the chapter. My conjecture is that she couldn't talk well but her legs worked enough to go for a clumsy tackle.

 

[BayuAH]

"He got away. I had to tend to you, so I didn't have the time to chase him."

How much time you tend someone that not even injury? You just frickin kick him, why not just finished him off, or at least burn off his legs so he not run away forever, with your frickin magic?

Aargh! You just let a way your future problems!

 

[Blaze_Rod]

While I mostly agree, but she actually didn't get kidnapped for the second time. I know, it's confusing.

Also, just like the action in the chapter. My conjecture is that she couldn't talk well but her legs worked enough to go for a clumsy tackle.

Because she bumbled around and tackled the guy, she got taken hostage so the dude couldn't just use magic on him.

She was dropped when the dude started blasting the potions and the kidnapper's IQ dropped by 50 points.

 

[Apocrypse]

Because she bumbled around and tackled the guy, she got taken hostage so the dude couldn't just use magic on him.

She was dropped when the dude started blasting the potions and the kidnapper's IQ dropped by 50 points.

Okay, so what do we know about Ikuto?

He's a massive chuunibyou/weeb (based) who was reincarnated as a princess.
He was forcefully given etiquette training and kept away from combat/magic.
Given how impulsive he was in the forest, Liam concluded that they were both too immature to handle the minions.
His magic only appears to come out when used for others (protecting Liam from the giant cat and protecting the innkeeper from Schtell).

Given what we know about him, I don’t think it makes sense to expect him to automatically make every right decision. Unlike Rimuru, he doesn’t have a Great Sage. Edited: Even then, despite ending up a hostage, Ikuto's tackle still prevented Liam from getting injected. It was a better trade off to the alternative where they'd both be paralyzed and sold. Ikuto's not as pathetic as he thinks.

In my humble opinion, I think you'd enjoy this story more if you didn't anger yourself by holding a sheltered rich kid to such unrealistic and uncharacteristic standards.

I get it. I'd love it if my favorites only ever won, too, but inexperienced people are allowed to fail. I'm not saying this just to argue. I legitimately want as many people to enjoy the things I like as possible, which is why I offered to proofread this scanlation for free (although I still hope Replay gets donations; I mean have you seen how well that anthropomorphic cat redraws? Like dang). To that end, you’d have to be willing to forgive characters for being flawed (especially since it’s not coming out of nowhere).

I hope you enjoy future chapters better if you enter that mindset. The choice is yours, though. Either way, thanks for reading!

 

[Blaze_Rod]

Given what we know about him, I don’t think it makes sense to expect him to automatically make every right decision.

I don't expect them to be perfect. I expect them not to do arguably the worst possible thing they can do in this situation.

In my humble opinion, I think you'd enjoy this story more if you didn't anger yourself by holding a sheltered rich kid to such unrealistic and uncharacteristic standards.

First off, I am not angry because there is an idiotic character bumbling around in random manga. That's pretty much the norm. I am facepalming at the writing, not angrily fuming at a fictional character.

Secondly, I don't think verbally warning about a concealed weapon instead of bumbling around on a broken leg and being taken hostage because of that is an unrealistic standard.

I get it. I'd love it if my favorites only ever won, too, but inexperienced people are allowed to fail.

I don't know how you got "MC is not allowed to make mistakes or fail in whatever they are doing, ever" from "Can you just not do literally the stupidest thing you can possibly do right now?"

I hope you enjoy future chapters better if you enter that mindset. The choice is yours, though. Either way, thanks for reading!

It's not a mindset issue, and I would rather not forcefully try to lower my standards. I'll keep reading but I have a feeling there is going to be more stuff like this in the future. I am exactly not expecting to be impressed by the writing.

 

[MontDilanus1343]

It's not a mindset issue, and I would rather not forcefully try to lower my standards. I'll keep reading but I have a feeling there is going to be more stuff like this in the future. I am exactly not expecting to be impressed by the writing.

Pretty much this.

There's a difference between a fictional world with magic and dragons.
And another to try to cover terrible plot holes and bad writing with it.

Author, editor, and artist all had a chance to fix this. Storyboard. Layout.
They didn't.

• Slurred speech, fine. Depict it better. Use incomplete sentences, make scene blurred POV.
• Couldn't finish off kidnapper threatening to kill your friend? Show it. Don't make him showboat about "only using a leg".
• He cares deeply for him? Then why let the people who drugged, kidnapped, and almost sold friend off as slave escape.

There's terrible writing, that even artist can't save.
Can't take drama written seriously with inexperienced and immature scenario.

It doesn't even appear to have a source WN/LN, so there's no editorial review, polish, or universe building.
They're literally going off the cuff.

 

[Apocrypse]

Author, editor, and artist all had a chance to fix this. Storyboard. Layout.
They didn't.

• Slurred speech, fine. Depict it better. Use incomplete sentences, make scene blurred POV.
• Couldn't finish off kidnapper threatening to kill your friend? Show it. Don't make him showboat about "only using a leg".
• He cares deeply for him? Then why let the people who drugged, kidnapped, and almost sold friend off as slave escape.

Excellent feedback! However, the speech was incomplete, as you suggested.

Blurring isn't a common manga technique for depicting that (probably does happen, but not common; personally only seen it used for motion blur, and to your point, I do so often see anime, movies, and games use it). Still a good suggestion, because one can still advocate for that to change, despite my personal dissent.

Exposition also states that the Datura poison made it hard to speak (when he tried to ask his first question). To further communicate that to the audience, Ikuto basically got all of ~6 words out at the hideout. For me, going from "what are you..." to "a- a guy" along with basically spelling out that it was difficult to speak was more than enough, honestly. This means that "if you have trouble speaking, just shout" isn't actually good advice.

As for the showboating, I can understand doing it when a person is angry. That's again, just an opinion. I personally don't think of it in terms of opportunity cost, and even if I did, I'd still be satisfied knowing they won and destroyed Schtell's operation. He also wasn't threatening to kill Ikuto. He said, "Follow me quietly, and he won't get hurt," so the tension wasn't as high. He consistently wanted to sell both of 'em off to the Russells, so I can see why he wasn't as desperate for capture.

Even then, violence is not the only way to show caring. I'd argue anyday that literally helping Ikuto recover by carrying his lifeless corpse unconcious body to the inn for an antidote was a way better way to express that. In fact, a pretty common trope is to say, "that's not what [deceased loved one] would've wanted." Burning all his poison/destroying his entire carreer was a pretty good way to get back at him in my opinion.

 

[Apocrypse]

I feel like a lot of what is getting in the way for you two is shounen expectations for a shoujo manga. Vengeance and violence won't be at the forefront, although ever-present (Liam's primary motivation, too, but given the genre, they are highly likely to find an alternative route to a resolution). Fight choreography won't be as complex, hence Saon's neat critique of the 15 fps for fight scenes. This is what I mean when I say it's a mindset. If you keep holding an apple to an orange's taste, you'll just stress yourself out.

It's not a mindset issue, and I would rather not forcefully try to lower my standards. I'll keep reading but I have a feeling there is going to be more stuff like this in the future. I am exactly not expecting to be impressed by the writing.

Just further explaining it, though. I understand not wanting to force oneself to change one's standards. You tempered your expectations, too. Cool!

 

[Apocrypse]

I don't know how you got "MC is not allowed to make mistakes or fail in whatever they are doing, ever" from "Can you just not do literally the stupidest thing you can possibly do right now?"

Whoops! Got roped into a different semantic aspect of the debate (mindset and such).

To answer this, you're criticizing a plan that ultimately worked by essentially saying, "Having trouble speaking? Just shout!" In your response to me, you then double down and consider his plan (that again, worked; Liam didn't get injected) to be "literally the stupidest thing you can possibly do right now." If success in different form than you'd prefer is dumb to you, then it really, truly seems like you expect perfection. But this, too, is just semantics.

Speaking of semantics, we can argue all day about how bad or good, "trouble speaking, just shout" is as advice for paralysis or other such topics, but I'm done here, because I really gotta learn some discipline. This kind of debate is rarely if ever productive. There's my 2 cents.

 

[Blaze_Rod]

I feel like a lot of what is getting in the way for you two is shounen expectations for a shoujo manga. Vengeance and violence won't be at the forefront

What? Are you saying that if the series is shoujo it can just completely ignore plot when it comes to fights when they occasionally happen? Genre is not an excuse for shit writing. Just because your focus is on a different subject doesn't mean you can do others things half assed and expect people not to call this shit out.

You tempered your expectations, too. Cool!

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. I read the thing, realized that the writing is shit and made a comment about it.

To answer this, you're criticizing a plan that ultimately worked by essentially saying, "Having trouble speaking? Just shout!" In your response to me, you then double down and consider his plan (that again, worked; Liam didn't get injected) to be "literally the stupidest thing you can possibly do right now." If success in different form than you'd prefer is dumb to you, then it really, truly seems like you expect perfection. But this, too, is just semantics.

The plan failed completely and landed the pair into a worse situation they already were in. The only reason this wasn't a game over was because the thug was an absolute moron who both released his hostage and proceeded to leave himself completely vulnerable to an attack when Liam started smashing shit. The plan was a complete failure on every metric. This is like saying that a plan to take a sip of water from a lake was successful because now you're drowning in the lake because you fell in.

it really, truly seems like you expect perfection. But this, too, is just semantics.

I am really baffled at your insistence that others are expecting fucking perfection when they make a point about how the writing is shit. The situation was made worse by the MC and then got convieniently resolved because the thug was an incompetent idiot.

Speaking of semantics, we can argue all day about how bad or good, "trouble speaking, just shout" is as advice for paralysis or other such topics, but I'm done here, because I really gotta learn some discipline. This kind of debate is rarely if ever productive. There's my 2 cents.

The MC both speaks before and after the kerfuffle. The writing is shit because it's inconsistent about what the fuck is happening. The MC is supposed to be unable to speak because of the poison, but does so twice and in capacity that would have been enough to make a verbal warning. There is no thought bubble when MC is trying to warn Liam about the syringe how she can't speak nor is there garbled speech when she tries to warn Liam. There is zero indication that the MC would have been unable to warn Liam verbally. She just decides that speech is not a thing and proceeds to tackle a guy.

And ofc these "debates" never lead anywhere. I don't understand why you're trying to defend pretty bad writing instead of just admitting that "Yeah, that was pretty damn bad. It should have been better" and moving on.

 

[Zblurth]

this is honestly kinda a surreal experience, like you can see their is effort behind it but on the other end I read fan fict written by random 12 years old in an afternoon with better plot, dialogue and personality than that

 

[ThePieGuy]

Bruh, Datura? The Devil's Trumpet? The one that causes Psychosis? Damn.

 

[BrunoUwU]

Shipping them