Tensei Shitara Ken deshita - Vol. 20 Ch. 97 - The Adventurers' Guild People

[Azurekyte]

Big sissy is correct... good grief.

 

[Pilomotor]

Apparently Elza has a skill for deadname detection.

 

[PhycoKrusk]

Great, it's fruitcakes all the way down....

 

[pandatime]

Oh Inina got a good design i like . She one lf those never rly had a illustrsrion in novel type of chars afterall .

 

[isoycrazy]

I hope Fran can make more friends. And deliver punishment to those who harm her friends.

 

[Osha]

I'm sure this comment section is going to be absolutely normal.

 

[boursk]

Well I assume that the translators consciously chose to call Erza a she and her completely ruining the bit where Master asks if it's a woman or a man...you wouldn't ask if someone is a man or a woman after already having chosen to call them she and her...especially when Erza has a clear male physique...so I would guess at first they are using gender neutral pronouns to refer to Erza.


Now I don't throw shade at the okama trope, it's amusing in its own rights.

Just wondering if I am correct in my assumption or mistaken...I would like to see some raws of this.

The chosen pronoun was prob based on the fact that she was referred to as a 姐さん (nee-san, translated as "big sis") to begin with on page 9. I think it's also fair to assume that "Erza" is a female name.


That said, as is typical in Japanese, the RAWs don't have pronouns in those bubbles, but I think it's fair to have used the English female pronouns in the translation in that context given the established expectation from Erza's name and the use of 姐さん.

 

[drakedog]

Great, Now I need some soap for my eyes

 

[Xelarion]

Is this type a caricature in Japan?

This is a common stereotype with older generations in Japan, yes. It doesn't help that they do whatever they can to legally shunt actual gay representation to the sidelines, so younger generations don't know any better.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

Translator-san you might want to go with The Hatchery as their party name to keep consistent with the novel

This is a common stereotype with older generations in Japan, yes. It doesn't help that they do whatever they can to legally shunt actual gay representation to the sidelines, so younger generations don't know any better.

The nice bit is that Elza is one of the best characters of this particular arc and is a legit ally to Fran and a very good person. She isn’t sidelined in it and the only one that has difficulty dealing with Elza is Teacher as everyone else views her to be the hero of Ulmett

 

[Morose]

how?

Haven't read it completely, but her party gets betrayed by their Scout (named Solus), causing everyone in the party to die by monsters and traps, except Solus.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

Well I assume that the translators consciously chose to call Erza a she and her completely ruining the bit where Master asks if it's a woman or a man...you wouldn't ask if someone is a man or a woman after already having chosen to call them she and her...especially when Erza has a clear male physique...so I would guess at first they are using gender neutral pronouns to refer to Erza.


Now I don't throw shade at the okama trope, it's amusing in its own rights.

Just wondering if I am correct in my assumption or mistaken...I would like to see some raws of this.

It’s actually Fran that was asking her that question as it was her first time meeting someone like Elza so she was curious

 

[Morose]

Considering her party composition, probably gang rape.

Did you have to make such assumptions, just because of that reasoning?

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

Did you have to make such assumptions, just because of that reasoning?

As someone on volume 13 of the novel, what they said isn’t an assumption and is what happens unfortunately

 

[Imryse]

Well, just going to say something related to Inina, she is going to die soon.

of course. can't ignore the flags.

 

[galaxia9]

I hope Inina is just as nice as she seems, a cheery big sister would be good for our little Fran.

 

[storm_crow]

Is this type a caricature in Japan?

Pretty sure it is, yeah. I think I've seen this "super buff crossdresser/transwoman high-rank adventurer/receptionist" like 3-5 times over the years in different mangas.

IIRC wasn't there even some character like that in One Punch Man? Just read the thread further and there's literally a gif of that character I vaguely remembered.

 

[jipowap]

HARDO GAY IS HEER TA BRING YOU PEACE IND LOVUU!

 

[HDMI1]

Did you have to make such assumptions, just because of that reasoning?

It's Japan, and a common trope when a female character is introduced just to be killed off.

 

[fury130]