The Main Heroines Are Trying to Kill Me

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this shit so ass.. is the source really better? :aquadrink:
As novel reader, i was disappointed in this manhwa when i read chapter 10 and 11 because while i anticipated that some details will also be cut however they cut most of the important details and parts that make it enjoyable and emotional.

Manhwa chapter 10 and 11 took place in Novel chapter 14-16

The Difference
The timing when Kania return to the dorm are different, in the novel it was late at night and in manhwa it was after Frey bandage his wound.

Frey read a letter he found in magic space he created to get the spare brooch after realizing he dropped it while it was cut in the manhwa

Kania timing of confrontation were different, In the novel it was Morning while in Manhwa it was at night after Frey bandage his wound

Kania place the cat doll and cast possession magic on it in the novel before she went to sleep in the extra bed while in the manhwa it was cut.

Frey confided about the yesterday event, letter written by his father and being a hero to the cat doll(while Kania listening it) in the novel while in the manhwa it was cut.

Kania details and reason for applying magic constraints and restraints to ruler of Frey Sub-conscious were cut out.

Kania process of learning the truth are different, in the novel ruler of Frey Sub-conscious told her the truth the system and how to gain it, the reaction when Kania committed suicide, how many times Frey cry and his last time with his father while in the manhwa ruler of Frey Sub-conscious simply give his memory to explain it.

About the last one in manhwa it make Kania a bit stupid if you read the novel as Kania apply restraint as a pre-caution to avoid being assimilated to Frey Sub-consciousness
 
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Can someone who read novel explain why MFC are trying to kill him?
It makes sense from his POV - he knew he will return in time so nothing he did will remain
But from their POV? One day the wake up, have "memories of timeline that didn't happen" and instead of "It was nighmare, I'm gonna ignore it" they all go "I have to kill him!"

Kania was his childhood friend, we saw how they got close together, but after gaining these memories she goes 180 and tries to kill him at first opportunity? He didn't even have time to do something evil that would made her believe he changed.
Mage was in similar situation - I had nightmare where you killed me, so I'm gonna curse you even before we meet each other

like wtf?
 
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This is fun actually. I like this. Haven't read the LN but I find this interesting.
Agreed, I liked this. Still only partway through the LN, but newcomers should start here. I would have given up on the LN if I hadn’t seen this up to ch15+ of the manHua. LN is extremely depressing, this is tragic heartfelt comedy.
 
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Can someone who read novel explain why MFC are trying to kill him?
It makes sense from his POV - he knew he will return in time so nothing he did will remain
But from their POV? One day the wake up, have "memories of timeline that didn't happen" and instead of "It was nighmare, I'm gonna ignore it" they all go "I have to kill him!"

Kania was his childhood friend, we saw how they got close together, but after gaining these memories she goes 180 and tries to kill him at first opportunity? He didn't even have time to do something evil that would made her believe he changed.
Mage was in similar situation - I had nightmare where you killed me, so I'm gonna curse you even before we meet each other

like wtf?
Rather than thinking it was just a nightmare of a future yet to come, I think it's more likely they'd think going back to the past would be a dream in their dying moments, or something like their life flashing before their eyes.

IIRC it's not explicitly stated, but the things they're using to kill Frey are probably things they normally couldn't do at that point in time, except for Ferloche's Blessing of the Sun. That one is actually explicitly stated in the novel, the other heroines question how she can already use that when it's supposed to need a year's worth of ritual setup. Ferloche's answer is basically "I just asked the Sun God and they said sure".

On the topic of why everyone is suddenly trying to kill him, it should touch on this in the next ten or twenty chapters but if it doesn't:
Frey got access to the prophecy when he was a younger kid, as you see in the earlier chapters. This happens a bit after his mother died.

That's the point where he begins his act as a False Evil, so they don't immediately become suspicious when he actually gets the System. Most of the main heroines knew Frey from before he got the prophecy though, which is why they trusted him for so long.

It probably took a while for him to adapt to the false evil role as a kid, so it seems to the main heroines that Frey just gradually became a worse and worse person as a reaction to his mother's death. Likewise, his sister isn't a main heroine but also thinks the same way.
 
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Can someone who read novel explain why MFC are trying to kill him?
It makes sense from his POV - he knew he will return in time so nothing he did will remain
But from their POV? One day the wake up, have "memories of timeline that didn't happen" and instead of "It was nighmare, I'm gonna ignore it" they all go "I have to kill him!"

Kania was his childhood friend, we saw how they got close together, but after gaining these memories she goes 180 and tries to kill him at first opportunity? He didn't even have time to do something evil that would made her believe he changed.
Mage was in similar situation - I had nightmare where you killed me, so I'm gonna curse you even before we meet each other

like wtf?

Because it wasn't a nightmare, it was something they actually experienced before regressing. Also he has (in their view) already have done many bad things in this new timeline after his mother's death.
 
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The premise is intriguing, it makes me want to read the novel. I absolutely despise harem, but if that's only a side-focus then it will likely be a decent read.
 
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It is a harem novel
Basically my main issue,

the plot becomes extremely predictable

like its (mc does bad things, heroine find out true nature, repeat...) it isn't until 170-onward that there is more interesting stuff

Some other issues involve how it tries to focus on being this depressing spectacle but also has these harem comedic moments in between...
 
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This is one of the most convoluted, dumbest shit iv ever seen for a premise in quite some time and around here, that is saying a lot. To save everyone you have to kill everyone, and after you go back to before you killed everyone, you need to continue being a complete cunt to them and if they find out your not actually a total bastard you'll.....lose points?
The hell are these arbitrary rules anyways? Just fuckin, feel like it so here you go good luck.

Flips table and storms off
 
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Maybe it is the adaptation that’s shitty, but does the novel ever explain why the 5 heroines never question why the MC has a major personality change for no reason when he should’ve been acting like a relatively normal person before? I‘m sure he’s acting very different than pre-time travel. You’d think they’d deduce something, even if it’s not true, like thinking that he also time traveled?
You guessed it and yes, they did and there are like a bunch of chapters dedicated to backstories leading up to they finally being convinced that he is a lost cause. Like Frey himself commented how hard it is to convince some heroines to believe he is a bad person.
 
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This is one of the most convoluted, dumbest shit iv ever seen for a premise in quite some time and around here, that is saying a lot. To save everyone you have to kill everyone, and after you go back to before you killed everyone, you need to continue being a complete cunt to them and if they find out your not actually a total bastard you'll.....lose points?
The hell are these arbitrary rules anyways? Just fuckin, feel like it so here you go good luck.

Flips table and storms off
This is nothing more than a wet dream for people who "Had good intentions" but were denied IRL.
Next point author didn't address is the world building issue that actually we IRL have:
Did he travel back in time or did he travel back to a different universe?
In both cases the pain he caused still is true. But in second case it adds to his sin, he basically helped ruin the 1st world, teleported back BUT that world still continues to live in demon filled world.

Author dabbled in a premise that destroys any "heroism". If he were to act as a hero the 1st time maybe some heroines would die but the world would ultimately be saved yet he decided to do a "perfect" run by killing everyone only a degenerate gamer would do this, disregarding current reality for another for a "perfect clear".
 
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This is nothing more than a wet dream for people who "Had good intentions" but were denied IRL.
Next point author didn't address is the world building issue that actually we IRL have:
Did he travel back in time or did he travel back to a different universe?
In both cases the pain he caused still is true. But in second case it adds to his sin, he basically helped ruin the 1st world, teleported back BUT that world still continues to live in demon filled world.

Author dabbled in a premise that destroys any "heroism". If he were to act as a hero the 1st time maybe some heroines would die but the world would ultimately be saved yet he decided to do a "perfect" run by killing everyone only a degenerate gamer would do this, disregarding current reality for another for a "perfect clear".
It's time travel, they'll specifically get into it more later, like 100 chapters later at this rate.

The adaptation skips out a lot and Frey's mentioned it in parts that have already been skipped, but it's kind of funny that you mention only a degenerate gamer would do that. His personal reasoning is the exact opposite: he's going to do this because his world isn't a game to him, it's filled with people he loves and cares for.

If the world were just a game to him, he'd go for some route that causes him the least amount of suffering, he'd pick out one of the heroines to live with and let the others all die, and they'll rebuild a ruined world together and live happily ever after.

Quite frankly, the adaptation is skipping so much, you don't even realize what you're suggesting is actually "We'll just pick up from a postapocalyptic scenario after the Demon Lord has razed everything to the ground."
 
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Can someone who read novel explain why MFC are trying to kill him?
It makes sense from his POV - he knew he will return in time so nothing he did will remain
But from their POV? One day the wake up, have "memories of timeline that didn't happen" and instead of "It was nighmare, I'm gonna ignore it" they all go "I have to kill him!"

Kania was his childhood friend, we saw how they got close together, but after gaining these memories she goes 180 and tries to kill him at first opportunity? He didn't even have time to do something evil that would made her believe he changed.
Mage was in similar situation - I had nightmare where you killed me, so I'm gonna curse you even before we meet each other

like wtf?
He was already doing bad deeds since he was little in the previous loop. Also it wasn't like or dream or nightmare but an actual timeline that happened and they felt pain and got betrayed by Frey who they loved. Also Kania was right next to Frey since he started the false evil path. She took the brunt of Frey's acting.
 
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Maybe it is the adaptation that’s shitty, but does the novel ever explain why the 5 heroines never question why the MC has a major personality change for no reason when he should’ve been acting like a relatively normal person before? I‘m sure he’s acting very different than pre-time travel. You’d think they’d deduce something, even if it’s not true, like thinking that he also time traveled?
I know this is pretty late but I need to defend one of my favorite novel. Yes the adaptation is that shitty as they don't really explain in detail and even do the novel is revolved around the depressing and sad story the adaptation skipped over it.
It is also mentioned in the book why they never question is because how when Frey started acting different from his kind personality when he was little was when his mother died. (AHHHH I wanna spoil the ending but I need to do only minor ones.)
 
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This is nothing more than a wet dream for people who "Had good intentions" but were denied IRL.
Next point author didn't address is the world building issue that actually we IRL have:
Did he travel back in time or did he travel back to a different universe?
In both cases the pain he caused still is true. But in second case it adds to his sin, he basically helped ruin the 1st world, teleported back BUT that world still continues to live in demon filled world.

Author dabbled in a premise that destroys any "heroism". If he were to act as a hero the 1st time maybe some heroines would die but the world would ultimately be saved yet he decided to do a "perfect" run by killing everyone only a degenerate gamer would do this, disregarding current reality for another for a "perfect clear".

All of the stuff you written gets explained later. This is why people should stop being so impatient, expecting everything to be spoonfed in the first 5 chapters or so of a story. To answer your question as to why Frey doesn't just pick the ordinary route and leave some people to die, it is because in every of those routes, the world ends up getting destroyed with almost everyone dying. Charging the heroes armament the normal way takes too long. He and the whole of humanity will need to fight a long and drawn out war against the most powerful being in the entire world who can potentially level an entire continent by just simply snapping her fingers.
 

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