The Moon on a Rainy Night - Vol. 4 Ch. 13 - Burst

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I don't know, I still feel like something is missing for me,
this story should be good, and it is a sad story
but compared to other similar plots I read, it is just doesn't seem right

I feel like the author wants the readers to feel sympathetic, especially with so many "you are kind" lines thrown from Saki.
I think I'd be more connected if at least Ayano's face is shown a bit more mellowed when telling the backstory.
I mean, you said that what Ayano did is inexcusable, but when I hear a story like that from someone with a frown face like that, I'd be like: "do you even sorry?"

don't get me wrong, I read this author's other manga such as Ani no Yome to Kurashiteimasu.
and I LOVE AniYome
the whole expression drawn there is very touching for me

that's why I feel like something is missing here
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I think this girl also actually also gay for Kanon, or at least want Kanon to reply on her.
That why she snap after there is some guy appear. She seem to confuse the take care of Kanon with all that stuff at home and lured them both as resiponsible she is forced to take > the reason she suffer. Litelary the she compalin about when Kanon try to make up is "there are whole lot of other who can take care of you" even though Kanon offer that she would help which reducd both end of the problem, her work for Kanon and her family work.
That would explain the cold treatment when she found out there are a new girl (MC) who beside Kanon now. Or the inbetween when they are apart and Kanon get quite close to that guy, she have the same as other girls, but just toward different target XD
 
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I think this girl also actually also gay for Kanon, or at least want Kanon to reply on her.
That why she snap after there is some guy appear. She seem to confuse the take care of Kanon with all that stuff at home and lured them both as resiponsible she is forced to take > the reason she suffer. Litelary the she compalin about when Kanon try to make up is "there are whole lot of other who can take care of you" even though Kanon offer that she would help which reducd both end of the problem, her work for Kanon and her family work.
That would explain the cold treatment when she found out there are a new girl (MC) who beside Kanon now. Or the inbetween when they are apart and Kanon get quite close to that guy, she have the same as other girls, but just toward different target XD

uh, I think you're missing my point here

I have no problem with how the sad story went
I understand all of it, that's why I said "this story should be good, and it is a sad story"
whether about Ayano also romantically interested in Kanon or not, or about the cold treatment, whatever

I'm just saying that the way Ayano's expressions were drawn/depicted as she tells the story, for me, made me not feel sorry or sympathetic for her
 
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Saki is too forgiving. While I understand from where Ayano is coming from, and I get she regrets how things turned out, I dislike how she's just running away from it. As Saki said, Kanon is the only one who should decide if what Ayano did is unforgiveable or not. Ayano must apologize. That's the least she can do. So, no Saki, she's isn't "kind."
But she's not directly affected by her past action, hating someone or thinking they complete trash just because they hurt someone that you love, especially when they're explaining their situation at the moment and giving you helpful avise to avoid going through the same, makes no sense, Kanon know her since childhood is no like she became fatherless all of a sudden, is being a while, but even so she didn't even know, it doesn't matter if the friend never told her, there are things that you notice just by being close to someone and paying attention but she didn't even notice she was having a hard time, they both where selfish and engrossed in their own word, the friend used her as a punching bag but since part of her frustration was the fact that Kanon never even noticed she also wanted someone to rely on, you can give her some breathing room and understanding, She has all the qualities needed to learn from her mistake and become a better person and that's what Saki see
 
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uh, I think you're missing my point here

I have no problem with how the sad story went
I understand all of it, that's why I said "this story should be good, and it is a sad story"
whether about Ayano also romantically interested in Kanon or not, or about the cold treatment, whatever

I'm just saying that the way Ayano's expressions were drawn/depicted as she tells the story, for me, made me not feel sorry or sympathetic for her
I dont think i missed your point. You saying her facial dont ad upp, you didnt sympatetic, doesnt feel the way the author intend to make you feel. i show there maybe a another intended for that face.
My point is that even thouth the end she "you stay with her, for me too" she was still bitter that Kanon found a new girl. Even during the talk she still bitter and still in the "Kanon have plenty people would willing to take care of her", no i dont want that... XD anyways, i think she dont realize that herself too, and as they talk it out she come to see that it is best that Kanon have a new one to help her, as their relationship can no longer go back to how it was.
 
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Thanks for the chapter!!
Why can't I find a Yuri without drama,💀 bruh

Must there always be drama and problems
Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei - pure comedy
Koishikawa-san Is a Carnivore - The ending was just 10/10
The Female Student and the Woman on the Same Bus - ch3 hit different
Gentle Flutters - I love this one
A story concerning sweets - this one is so cute and so heartwarming. But mangadex is missing some chapters...
Hatsukoi, Tokimeki Usuihon - I think it's pretty cute....

I have more if u want some 🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️
 
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1. Well, that won't explain the cold act the moment she see Kanon with a new girl if she reflected on her action and now the guy is not invole then.
2. And Also how she take the "forced responsibility" but become overprotective for Kanon.
3. I also don't see know his schedule mean much, he also around a lot. And also remember this is not first time boy try to get close Kanon, and she was overprotective right, so it won't strange to check on them a little. And... "He doesnt seem like he have time..." is that interest to him that much to begin with ?
4. And Also she is aware that the guy is aiming for Kanon to begin with, she didnt get mad then, so no reason she mad at Kanon for steal the guy later. This is also not the first boy to ever try

5. But you know what different ? this is the first boy who bring up her hearing, and express how he want to protect her and only he can understand what Kanon going through. Is it coincidence that this is the first igniter ?
6. Or follow after all that is how she least out at Kanon for "there are plenty of people who can take care of you, isnt it"

I rest may case
That "I rest my case" love that ending phrase! Also ur 5 and 6. Point is really good
Thats all
 
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I don't know, I still feel like something is missing for me,
this story should be good, and it is a sad story
but compared to other similar plots I read, it is just doesn't seem right

I feel like the author wants the readers to feel sympathetic, especially with so many "you are kind" lines thrown from Saki.
I think I'd be more connected if at least Ayano's face is shown a bit more mellowed when telling the backstory.
I mean, you said that what Ayano did is inexcusable, but when I hear a story like that from someone with a frown face like that, I'd be like: "do you even sorry?"

don't get me wrong, I read this author's other manga such as Ani no Yome to Kurashiteimasu.
and I LOVE AniYome
the whole expression drawn there is very touching for me

that's why I feel like something is missing here
I kindda get what you mean! Idk about the sympathetic tho. I think it's more about "understanding why Ayano did it" than feeling "sympathy why she did it"..

I re-read the chapter and I gotta say she's one stundere character like Rinne.

In her case she doesn't want to accept that after all she's done she could still be friends with Kanon and that she really cares for her(she might have only realize this after Saki point it out). That might explain why she has an angry face?

Remember the time kanon met ayano at the book store? Well we dont know why ayano is in there but I also think the reason why She's scary and intimidating kanon; is because she saw how easy it was for kanon to find another person to take care of her.. but yeah I understand your point.


Also what I mean about being stundere is that they try to show that they are strong/ cold or hostile when impact they have a softspot in them. Not in Romantic way just being stun lol this is after the fight coz man...ayano do have a huge pride
 
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I still love this story; this chapter just wasn't part of the reason why. I really enjoy the author's ability to display some of the less visible feelings around being different in some social settings.

My personal favorite panel from the whole work is when Saki puts on the fake smile for Kanon after learning the sign language hand symbol for marriage is a combination of the symbols for man and woman. That kind of quiet conformity that slowly sucks the life out of you is something most works never even hint at, and it matches how I feel personally during those types of situations so perfectly.
 
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Please, why hasn't this been updated in 6 months? How do i go on with my life now...?
 
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can the translator please release a note whether they're gonna translate the rest? i've seen raws up to ch 18. if you need funds to buy the raws, i'm down to help pls i just want to read the rest T_T
 
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I really enjoy reading this series, and then heading into the comment section and seeing the war zone that's happening in here 😂
i had no clue people could possibly get this worked up over such a surface level yuri manga
 
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Evil people don’t regret, they justify
Indeed. She didn't ask for forgiveness because she believes what she did was so wrong she doesn't deserve forgiveness. That's self-imposed martyrdom but that's not bad. She just has bad habits and apparently no one to help her have an healthier way of dealing with a crappy situation.
 
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I definitely can sympathise with Ayano's story and the reasons her relationship with Kanon turned out the way it did, but damn, what the hell was the thing with their last encounter even about then, when she told Kanon that Saki was "the new one"? In this chapter we see that Ayano regrets the way their relationship turned sour and she doesn't want to hurt Kanon any more, but the only purpose of making such a snark remark about Saki is to hurt Kanon, nothing else. She could've just ignored her but no, she explicitly went out of her way to remind Kanon of their falling out and make her upset.

I just can't see how Saki can call Ayano a kind person with only that limited information, can she read minds? The attitude Ayano has shown towards Kanon until this point just seemed to be very intolerant. The build-up of this whole subplot could be handled a bit better in my opinion.
 
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hurt people hurt people. Ayano had a shitty situation, and she was a teenager, dealing with all of that alone, without having anyone helping her. I understand why she snapped and acted like that.

However it's also true that she hurt Kanon. I do hope they can talk it out, at least clear up all the negativity between them.
 
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No, Ayano is mean, I’ve seen terrible people do awful things then feel bad about it (thinking that makes them good is what locks sooo many people in cycles of abuse). This woman decided to never comunicate her feelings on her own, then blow up at her, then when she tried to apologize for something she couldn’t know she was doing wrong, she said even worse stuff. Then she sees her again in a store and again decides to torment her and make her feel bad.

I really don’t get why people feel so apologetic for her, we have represented evil so wrong so often (as sadistic hand rubbing villains) that people don’t get that realistic bad people are closer to this. The boyfriends who beat you up, also explode at you then feel super remoursful about it. For me the point that should be address and makes this pretty clear is, she hates seeing her happy. Why would you try to ruin the day for someone you’ve already made sure to make misserable during middle school if you are suposed to know you were an asshole and feel bad about it. Real bad people, may feel bad about their actions but they hate it even more to not have control over the other persons feelings, including if that person is not feeling bad like you wanted them to feel, so you make sure to stop their fun.
 
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Ayano story is very sad, it feels like something that seems so posible to happen.
 
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ah, makes sense. she's a caretaker type and just snapped under pressure
 
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So we just gonna ignore the fact that the moment they met eachother again she acted like the same f`ing b*tch she was back then? And like someone else say “evil people dont regret, they justify”, which was basically what she did when she talked to Saki.
Brother, you have no idea how hard it is to talk to someone like normal after that. Especially since we see the whole thing still affecting her. If anything her pride's in the way.

Does that mean shes an irredeemable evil bitch? HELL NO.

But does that mean shes innocent? HELL NO.

People can hurt other people, and people can be self aware and regretful, but people cant also confront their own feelings/actions, these arent mutually exclusive. People are messy period, and looking at Ayano's story, can you really blame her for being such a mess?
 

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