The Politics Megathread

[Tamerlane]

 

[Richman]

I saw a meme the other day of Biden and Trump playing a Modern Warfare Rust 1v1, it made me laugh very hard.

 

[BestBoy]

@Nako What isn't being relayed to you is that all voters must register to vote, with the exception of North Dakota. I'm not 100% certain if this changed anywhere this year, but I do not believe so. Registration requires proof of eligibility (age, resident in state, us citizen, not serving a prison sentence), and proof of residency (DL or ID, current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck or govt. check, or a govt. document). It can vary state by state, but this was the most lax (aside from ND) that I saw in my quick check.

ND is interesting because while they had no registration required since the 50's, they have Voter ID laws. In 2016, there was a change to these laws that disenfranchised native tribes in the area (requiring a street address as opposed to a PO box). It was taken to court and the law was overturned it was determined that voter fraud was virtually non-existent in the state and the effect of the change was adversely affecting that population.

 

[youdontknowwho]

@Ivegotnolife

Dems want to just scatter unregulated, and unrequested mail in ballots across the country, so anyone can just pick one up, vote without proof of id

Dude, eligible citizens must be registered to vote. Most of the times you must have witness(es) to sign your mail-in ballot. In the first place, there's not a single thing either Dems or Reps can do "across the country" to interfere with the process because US elections are heavily decentralized, with every state setting its own rules.

 

[Ivegotnolife]

But in states that don't check, verify, and purge their voter registries of the dead, inactive, moved to new address, and former state residents, have sent ballots to the last known address of voters that fit those criteria. If the new homeowner is crooked they can vote more then once, by using their own ballot, and the ballot of the stranger that just showed up in the mailbox!

 

[BestBoy]

You don't think states update their qualified voter profiles? All but 6 states are required to, and 5 of those 6 use SSN to verify instead. The whole thing is operated by the Social Security Administration.

https://www.ssa.gov/open/havv/

You can even check each state to see how many verification requests they had by week.

 

[Kanami-chan]

Glitch or Feature? XD

do you believe in science and math? XD

Spoiler

 

[youdontknowwho]

@Ivegotnolife then take it to the state legislatures. They're the ones who set up election rules. Last time I check, Republicans are actually in charge of more states than Democrats, including the important ones that decide the election

Spoiler

Because elections are administered at local level, the chance that either campaign could interfere with the voting process is exceedingly small. Not even the federal government could. It was designed that way for maximum security, in exchange for being messy and time-consuming.
If the Trump campaign think some serious fraud did happen, they can always file lawsuits to let the courts intervene, which they're already doing. We have processes to resolve electoral disputes. The thing is, it will take more than badly done Facebook memes to convince judges of the merit of your challenges.

 

[Ivegotnolife]

@bestboy Yes the states are legally obligated to do so, but when the responsible officials like GA's Brian Kemp attempt to do so, the Dems scream holy hell, and accuse them of voter suppression! Evidently in Demtard world every dead, and criminal vote must count!

 

[youdontknowwho]

Kinda proved my point.

 

[immortalartisan]

Welp Biden won. At least it’s a different kind of nightmare.

 

[kasajizo]

Smh smh, I watched (and monitor it thoroughly because I did the livestream for it) every state's count and then something went very fishy just in matter of minutes well that was something from the protector of democracy, welp I'm not american but I do have much experience where democracy appears only as a label to gain power but inside of it they're implementing socialism 101 and yes, there you go America.

Welcome to the trial mode of socialism or even worse, communism.

Remember, the most important thing for socialism/communism is not YOU people, it's the resources that YOUR LAND have.

And the most ridiculous thing from this thread is how the left plays out to be the most innocent side in the history of politics after biden projected as the winner while in the last 9 months what they chanted were races, defund the police, russia, impeach then when donald's side ask to audit the vote what the left have is impossible, unbelievably, no way, conspiracy. You gotta be kidding me, this is how truly what mao and lenin did to their previous government.

As an outsider, I believe in Joe as he had his vice-president experience with Obama. though we knew it from the start Joe is old and the most he can make it is 3 years. It's out of topic but for malaysians (I'm not malaysians) how muhyiddin betrayed mahathir (mahathir, the oldest prime minister in the world) is the frame of how america politics would work, joe will be the next scapegoat after donald.

 

[Kanami-chan]

Joe the next scapegoat

He'll be suicided and replaced by his vice president in less than a year anyway.

 

[BestBoy]

@Kanami-chan The Dominion thing is old news. Check back a few pages for an answer. Same with the Benford's law. It's something I'm keeping an open mind about, but I've seen a lot of skepticism about it. Links are a page or two back, I think.

@Ivegotnolife If you're going to make a claim like that about Kemp at least provide a link. Preferably nonpartisan.

And you're still shouting the same stupid memes about dead and criminal voters without any evidence. By evidence I mean something that's been presented in court. Not twitter posts and facebook memes. Are y'all just pulling these from your discord or something? Also, you realize the republican court cases so far have had nothing to do with dead or criminal voters, right?

@kasajizo You watched every ballot count all at the same time? What'd you see that was fishy? No one's saying they can't audit the votes. Good, strong evidence is needed to prove electoral fraud, and we haven't been shown any yet.

@Tamerlane Please don't encourage them. You know as well as I there hasn't been any strong evidence provided. Don't take a giant shit on your own values of being objective towards this by posting that drivel.

 

[immortalartisan]

You know I’m not asking for much when I don’t want to have to organize my own school fundraiser for half a year to get text books from the last decade right?

 

[Kanami-chan]

just use libgen or rutracker bro

 

[Ivegotnolife]

Here's a link for the lawsuit that was spawned by a effort to tidy up the voter roles.

And a link to a article that chronicles Stacy Abrams fight to oppose cleaning the voter registry, and the counters to those charges.

 

[Coriander]

American left in full force rationalizing all the weird shit going on in their election, just like how Trump won in 2016 and it's totally Russian for 4 years huh. To be honest I expected some wouldn't mind an investigation to make sure their democracy is working, but it seems just winning is fine, no matter who their candidate is as long as it's not Trump.

The election would've been more interesting if Bernie was the candidate, but they've gone for the no charisma dementia puppet instead and he broke Obama's 2008 popularity vote record and it's all fine no funny business here.

 

[2SpiritCherokeePrincess]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/how-voter-id-laws-discriminate-study/517218/

 

[Ivegotnolife]

Like BO's shovel ready jobs, the New Deal just sucked money out of the private sector to create taxpayer funded, government subsidized jobs. Like the Russian Gulags they put people to work, but did nothing to grow the private sector economy.

Check out this article about the myths of the new deal.