@2SpiritCherokeePrincess I think you missed the point really badly of that post, which was meant to point out that if you keep telling people that companies have a right to serve whoever they want when they target people, like is happening now, that it means they should just go make their own business. It was in response to Halo's post.
Hell, segregation is a good example that would support that argument, as we can pretty much all agree that businesses should serve customers indiscriminately unless they are specifically causing damage to the business, and not on immutable characteristics or beliefs.
@Halo
Does this also apply to the people who invaded the Capitol and were confronted by the police?
Yes if it was proven that an officer killed because of a reasonable threat to their life with a roughly equal amount of force, then it is justified, though it probably wouldn't be wise given the tensions in the situation.
What does this mean? In what way they were stripped of their rights?
It's very clear that the right to peacefully assemble has been dampened by COVID lockdowns, and that their right to free speech has been under attack for years by Social Media who have made policies to remove any content that goes against their narrative. Progressively, and right now, we're seeing more and more politicians trying to make lists of people who supported Trump or who are politically advocating for policies they think are outside of the overton window. It also is clear that there is a double standard in society by which the left is allowed to riot, loot, protest, and cause damage to unrelated parties for weeks, but one protest by the other side leads to Draconism, and this lack of consistent standards leads to a lack of equal protection under the 14th amendment.
These statement are indisputable, and are evident even now. If big tech continues to discriminate against these people, will it only lead to further disenfranchisement and further escalation. Companies should not be discriminating in the ways that they are.
This portion also applies to the follow up by @EOTFOFYL
Name one person on this forum who actually cares about politics.
Very clearly I do, and several other people. You framing our arguments or positions as you do does not invalidate this.
Then there's Timur who, despite being able to make a good point and can express himself better than most on this stupid forum, keeps on making manifestos about voter fraud and smoking guns while having zero evidence for more than 2 months. Sorry, too tired, can't take it seriously.
Maybe if you had actually read those posts instead of ditching them because they were too long, you would have seen myself outlining the points within them and presenting evidence of voter fraud. It's disingenuous to say I had no evidence for my claims and it's just a mantra that people and the media seems to be saying to themselves to not have to face the facts.
But if you want more evidence, go to this site and you can see a whole lot of it.
www.hereistheevidence.com
@rh75
Anti-establishment to becoming the establishment
Free speech to restricting speech
Fighting the Man to becoming the Man
Leave me alone to I'll tell you how to live your life
Free thought to hive mind
War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
@immortalartisan
Democrats haven’t done a damn thing.
Republicans have actively tried to walk backward in history.
Gotta disagree with you on this. I'd say aside from Trump, the Republicans have no political willpower and only have been reacting to the left's actions and increasing social power for the last decade or so. The Left has control of the institutions and universities that are enacting social policies and are implementing double standards and set agendas by which the right has not had any real means of combating. The fact only six senators had the spine to object to the results when over half the country believes in fraud is more than enough evidence that they do not care about representing the American people, nor do they have the political willpower to oppose the left.
Tell me, what is the aim the left is progressing towards? What is the ideal end result, or are they just moving forward for the sake of moving forward, never-mind that what we in society consider what is "forwards" or "backwards" is usually decided after the fact and usually is not accurate to how history has a pattern of progressing and regressing.
To me, framing society as moving forward or backwards in history is soothsaying, and not only lacks prospective, but is just done to give one side an aura of authority that they did not deserve.
@EOTFOFYL
The fact most of these people are veterans or people that have served in the military indicates to me that these are people who have vested interest in the well being of the country, and people who have put their lives on the line to protect the nation. It reminds me of the Bonus Army marching on the Capitol a century ago, or the Jewish War Veteran's 1933 protest of the Enabling Act by marching on the Reichstag. I genuinely think that these people believe themselves to be trying to protect the constitution and the nation, and not some group of thugs or ruffians like Antifa, as they have both the mental and physical scars to show for it. Whilst I condemn the violence, I can't paint this with the wanton violence or destruction of earlier in the year because it underlies a much more deep concern for the nation and the principles it was built upon, which is not present in the earlier riots which mostly harmed the poor, dispossessed and minority voices.
