@EOTFOFYL
I agree with you that if this was a coup, then obviously what they would install would be whatever nu-govermenttm model they wanted, but if you coup brings this to the political overthrow.
Then maybe it wasn't a coup, it was insurrection at most. As an American, I know you are more used to destabilizing other people's governments, as opposed to it happening to yours, so for context, this is a picture taken at the 2019 Sudan coup de'tat.
The man on the tank is the one overthrowing the government. Does this look similar to what happened at the Capitol?
The majority of MAGApedes there were not asking for the government to be overthrown and the new Emperor of Americatm to be installed into power. They have very plainly stated they wanted the election results to be more transparent and audited, and they have felt ignored. Probably because their claim is in and of itself stupid, but that's besides the point.
Are you under the impression that every person there came to kill every single politician and draft a new constitution? Was this done by a super-organized para-military force?
As already stated, the boomers insurrecting are, if liberal points are to be believed, stupid. Telling them to not be stupid doesn't really change anything. If you somehow think that I think there should be no consequences for them, then you're heavily mistaken. Doing things that follow your personal morals can get you destroyed. Just look at Snowden and Assange. All of this is besides the point, as now you're trying to state that bad things *should* happen to them for doing this. When my point is doing this doesn't fix the radical problem, the thing people should hopefully be trying to fix if they don't want more violence. If you on the otherhand, are possibly fine with more violence, then I agree this is a great course of action to take.
I agree with you that if this was a coup, then obviously what they would install would be whatever nu-govermenttm model they wanted, but if you coup brings this to the political overthrow.
Then maybe it wasn't a coup, it was insurrection at most. As an American, I know you are more used to destabilizing other people's governments, as opposed to it happening to yours, so for context, this is a picture taken at the 2019 Sudan coup de'tat.
The man on the tank is the one overthrowing the government. Does this look similar to what happened at the Capitol?
The majority of MAGApedes there were not asking for the government to be overthrown and the new Emperor of Americatm to be installed into power. They have very plainly stated they wanted the election results to be more transparent and audited, and they have felt ignored. Probably because their claim is in and of itself stupid, but that's besides the point.
People are not courts of law, not you nor anyone else, they do not need "evidence beyond a reasonable doubt". You are willfully avoiding the premise by deconstructing whether or not election fraud did take place when that is not what I am asking you to consider. Forget anything else, you are someone who believes the election was fraudulent, what is the moral action to take in such a system?
Look! You and the insurrectionists agree on something! Thank you for finally engaging in the hypothetical! Too bad the boomers tried doing exactly what you are saying they should have, and the courts are not even taking a show trial for their stupid evidence that is most likely wrong. Over 50 lawsuits not even brought to trial. Now, do you consider the stance of "We refuse to even take the case" and "We rule there was insufficient evidence that fraud took place" as equivalent? Because if you do, you have fundamentally misunderstood the concerns involved. Continuing the hypothetical, you attempted to bring the evidence to court and was turned down the chance to a fair trial because of various reasons, a trial did not take place. You are still convinced fraud took place, the courts have failed (in your eyes) to fulfil their role to arbitrate, what do you do now that it seems the courts are corrupt too?
Again, you are willfully dodging the hypothetical. As a premise for the hypothetical I asked you, there is enough evidence to convince you, personally, alone, that election fraud took place. What do you do?
When American culture literally indoctrinates the implicit understanding that overthrowing tyranny with violence is morally obligated as a founding principle. Once the political framework starts breaking down, all bets are off. If you don't believe it be morally obligated that you kill tyrants, then I can see why you're having a hard time grasping the sense of morality of some of your fellow Americans.
Did I ever imply they wanted to talk to the politicians? It seems you don't have a grasp on the difference between coup, insurrection, riot and protest. The closest thing to a "plan" I can even fathom for this boomer riot would be taking the senate hostage, halting the electoral college vote, and demanding a trial for the legitimacy of the election, in the general case. Maybe after hanging the Vice President if the chanting is to be believed. Some extremists probably wanted the entire political body destroyed (Not a single bomb was brought with them? Literally could have destroyed the entire building. Worst coup I've ever seen 1/10). A few were just rioters having fun with the sense of taboo and looting with glee, wanting to watch the machinery burn rather than have strong feelings about it.
Are you under the impression that every person there came to kill every single politician and draft a new constitution? Was this done by a super-organized para-military force?
