Tsuihou Suru Gawa no Monogatari - Vol. 1 Ch. 3 - Invitation

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If I'm Dal, I'd just fistfight him, make him eat dirt first, then explain.
 
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Okay at least Daru tried, Est just refused to listen. Anyway, go kick some dragon arse!
BUT, can you really blame Est for not listening?
He got kicked out of the team by the very girl he was in love with and was told he was not needed, became desperate to grow stronger and almost died alone, got a miraculous second wind and unlocked the abilities he needed to be accepted back, but when he gets back he sees THAT scene!

Can you really blame the 15 years old that just keeps suffering these blows to his psyche for not believing what the guy that was on top of the drunk girl was saying?
 
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BUT, can you really blame Est for not listening?
He got kicked out of the team by the very girl he was in love with and was told he was not needed, became desperate to grow stronger and almost died alone, got a miraculous second wind and unlocked the abilities he needed to be accepted back, but when he gets back he sees THAT scene!

Can you really blame the 15 years old that just keeps suffering these blows to his psyche for not believing what the guy that was on top of the drunk girl was saying?
Yes. He didn't stand up for her. It always was just about his own ego.
 
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Yes. He didn't stand up for her. It always was just about his own ego.
Stand up... FOR HER!?
The guy nearly died going to the labyrinth alone after being kicked out of the party BY HER!

You wanna talk about his ego? He's been betrayed, humiliated, left alone with no friends or party to help him get his livelihood, risked his own life fighting monsters alone and when he thought he could get back his place in the party, he comes across a scene that seemingly contextualizes their harsh treatment of him - they just wanted him out of the way so they could have drunk sex without him knowing.

His ego is shattered, his self-esteem is crushed, and the damage has been done by ATHENA! And you want him to "stand up for her?"

Of course this is about his own ego! This part of the story is about his "friends" ARE EMOTIONALLY ABUSING HIM!!!
 
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So what you're saying is that if you see a drunk woman getting taken advantage of, if you're pissed at her you'd leave her be. Check. That's all I need to know about you and your incel opinion. Bye Felicia.
Common twittard moment. Only heard what he wanted to hear and attacks the character of the other based on that out of context quote.
 
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You sure seem eager to attack someone in return. ^_^ Love the incel fuckers. Bye Felicia.
Because you already set the precedent yourself. You fired the first shot, so you should already expect someone to shoot back in return. If you were any respectful then you are also deserving of respect. But you aren't, so I won't respect you.
 
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This is so dumb. Daru could've blurted everything out. Scream that he doesn't like her and all that he was doing is helping her. "Calm down for once"? How can you expect Est to calm down after all he has been through?

Also, Athena is weak? Both her and Est? The party is being carried by the magician and Daru. What's with all the praises and then getting defeated right after? You have a buffer like Est and you let your guard down and allowed him to be attacked. Bruh. Why blame it all on Est's weakness? Why not try to improve with him so they'll be strong enough to defend Est while gaining buffs and Est can grow stronger to be able to avoid attacks and all that.

The idea is so dumb. You have a guy with buffing skills who does all the administrative work. Then you push him away. I think Athena also got her EGO boosted beyond her abilities from the praises so she thought she's already strong enough without Est. How did the party think, "oh Est got hurt he's a burden now" even though he's carrying a lot for the party? He'll die if he's with us? Yeah, right. He got hurt while he was with you. The vanguard let him get hurt even though he's supposed to be a buffer in the backline? Entering the advanced Labyrinth without being up to par with the difficulty and blaming the one who got hurt because of the lack of foresight.

To those trash talking Est for his reaction, how can you not imagine being betrayed by your friends and being called useless? He tries to become stronger by goin in a cave alone, almost dies, gets stronger and thinks he can convince them to take him back, and then sees that scene. He doesn't even see Athena is unconscious and drunk and then Daru says nothing about it and blames Est for acting out. Like bro. How can you just say all the blame is on him?

Geez. It's been a long time since I got irritated by a fictional story.
 
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i kept seeing people constantly complain about the mc being bad for not trying to communicate properly with est but from what i can see here est is the one refusing to listen to him in the first place. honestly if est is gonna be a bitch about everything and refuse to listen to anyone else then he deserves to suffer in his self made delusions of being cucked.
 
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Typical, too hardheaded and emotional to listen to someone's explanation


Est is just acting like a whiney bitch at this point, getting this heated over a misunderstanding


I can't stand people who refuse to listen when someone is trying to clear something up
 
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the misunderstanding trope is the worst thing in the universe
 

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