Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 79 - Now and Forever

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This is coming to an end? Nothing for Tsubami? Half expected a little more honesty from Chisaki/telling Ueno that the bully came from her crush on him.

Would like to at the very least see how Moka and Ueno try to work together to resolve the compatibility issue and Chisaki and her friends trying to move on from Ueno.
 
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Out of three it maybe show that Euno-kun would only have contact relationship with tsubomi? But if chisaki want to keep their trio BFF then Chisaki would still be in contact with the couple too. Only kanako is out of picture rn
 

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I don’t think anyone ever foresaw that we”d be here at the beginning.

Wild levels of introspection, communication and general maturity from what is fundamentally a gooner-bait fetish manga... Enough to put some actual romance manga to shame, though I suppose at the cost of the story coming to an end.
 
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author cooked so hard in the latter half of this, the character growth and the realistic outcomes of the scenarios portrayed was so well done
Overcooked, the flavors gone

Bro was writing something good then his mom/gf walked in and found it, scolded him “Your self insert MC is going to repress his desires and learn to love consensual, wholesome missionary sex with a generic girl, right? Right??” and he folded
 
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:qq: I know it is bad for me to think this two would be great together for the rest of their lives with how their dynamic plays out. It still hurts a bit to see how the resolution is playing out but seems to be the best course of action for the "morally correct" ending
 
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So we're ending this series?
 
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Overcooked, the flavors gone

Bro was writing something good then his mom/gf walked in and found it, scolded him “Your self insert MC is going to repress his desires and learn to love consensual, wholesome missionary sex with a generic girl, right? Right??” and he folded
Hmm I don't think that's the final take at all.

I feel it's more on the line of a kink is not the same as a twisted relationship. People with ill intent can abuse sexually repressed people, which is what happened with Ueno and Moka. The femdom between Ueno and Chisaki could have worked if they both were exploring it together, but it became damaging with how Chisaki bullied Ueno. Both immature dealing with a different kind of sexual desire. You can see a good side of exploring sexuality in the Ueno and Tsubomi (it should have been her :V ) scene in the love hotel, they feel much more natural there.

Both Chisaki and Ueno even agree that they won't change their kinks, they will only find new ones or new ways with people they can be happy with.
 
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I guess this entire later part of this manga is a weird self sabotage from the author side..
Moka, other than is by far the most boring and unintersthing character, having nonexistent chemistry and build up with Ueno. Even Kanako got more chemistry and build up then her.
All the while the author does a fantastic build up and chemistry with Tsubomi in the while the entire manga is center around Chisaki as the main girl and clearly the one that has the deepest connection with Ueno.

Yet, it seems like it gonna end up with Moka...I even suprised there isn't some forced ntr injected in terms of tsubomi and chisaki...
 
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-snip- Ueno might never break his programming, but he's optimistic in finding a way to circumvent it for Moka. -snip- No redemption...and she's definitely not apologetic for what she did to Ueno. It's hard to say what changed in Chisaki's character throughout the story unlike Tsubomi for example. -snip-
Preface disclaimer: My reactive humanist defiance towards operant conditioning makes my most-desired isekai goddess power "necromancy" so I can summon the spirit of B.F. Skinner and punch him to death again because of how behaviorism has both obviated the need for any kind of romantic free will and also made American special education's most valiant efforts still racist as fuck
For once I appreciate Ueno's recognition of a behavioral conditioning model of kink acquisition because his assertion to Chisaki is basically "Yup, you did your damage, and I've been 'developed' or 'programmed.' But guess what, bitch? Call me EEPROM 'cause my ass is reprogrammable. I'm gonna be a masochist on my own terms with a girl of my choosing, and you can go kick rocks with those mysteriously-steaming and un-licked feet of yours."

I think we're owed at least one more Chisaki chapter where she reconciles her feelings and actions, because basic reading comprehension and common sense tell us (and the MC) that the lady doth protest too much, methinks, when she asserts that she has no feelings for a fungibly-submissive Ueno, because...

I think one of this series' most yikes-ass takes is going to be a moral equivalence between Ueno and Chisaki on the basis that they're equally "perverse" and that if we're going to be accepting of Ueno's kink, we must therefore accept Chisaki's ドS-ass abuse of him because consent doesn't really factor into traditional understandings of BDSM and their relationship was cool because it was balanced and transactional; if he had himself an orgasm it wasn't rape. Thus, she needs no redemption and any apology would undermine a JP kink-positive reading. I'm dying to see how it ultimately resolves this.

I agree that it's hard to concretely point to any way in which she's grown as a character, because she keeps doing the same shit but with a potentially different understanding of herself and her circumstances that remains unconfirmed, and that's like, nothing.
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