Usuzumi no Hate - Ch. 38 - On The Same Path

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Alright, so 1000 years ago humans ruined everything by fighting over giant high-energy crystals that Daigiren call Marebito? Wars ended, crystals were hidden and Daigiren is responsible for both rebuilding civilization and immediately ruining it again with the Executioners? The Executioners, through consumption or miasma, killed humans and converted their bodies into suspiciously crystalline clusters? These same crystals appearing on the bodies of children born from pregnant women killed by the Executioners rendering them apparently immune to the miasma?

Wild stuff, love it. I wonder if the Marebito are non-carbon based lifeforms and the altered children are some form of hybrid between them and humanity. They may even be what Daigiren wanted out of the whole Executioner plan, a bridge to interacting with the Marebito directly.
 
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The timeline on this story is... long.

A thousand years before, there was a great world war, and they clearly already had pretty advanced tech... then they stopped, rethought about their priorities, and built the cities and giant self sustaining mega structures.

But even after hard decisions were made to not fall into another war... a sect of dumbasses still passed around the myths pertaining to the reasons of the war, and it was entrenched and strong enough that with time, those idiots rose to the top of the ruling structure and forgot why they sealed those crystals in the first place.

Anyway... I am a little worried now, because... this feels like it will be aliens, I really hope it ain't aliens.

Every time a manga brings aliens as the reason for every bad thing, it weakens the story... I hope those crystals ARE manmade, that the marebito is just some sort of high-dimensional construct that went rogue, but that everything is just technology working on principles humanity hasn't fully understood, and that is why things went out of control.

But no aliens... mind you, aliens can be fun, but manga has a bad record using them.
 
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So the Marebito, likely an alien species, left the energy crystals on Earth for humans to eventually find and use when at a sufficient technological level, in true A Space Odyssey fashion. Predictably, humans ended up killing each other over this resource, also in true A Space Odyssey fashion. I wonder how the Ark ships from chapter 23 fit into Daigiren's revelation and ascension. Were they planning on transforming all of humanity into an immortal space-faring species like the Marebito themselves by merging the crystalline material with human DNA? Is Crystallosis some sort of security measure to prevent humans from tampering with the crystals the wrong way and trying to reach "God" in a Tower of Babel scenario? Crystallosis and its derivatives (executioners, miasma) are already confirmed to be of alien origin from the get go.
 
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love how far Isami has come. "I'm not saying I forgive that man from Daigiren...but more than that, I want to honour what she's feeling right now"
"if we say she's not human...we're no different from the people who denied us"
AND Isami accomodating Vinny by offering a fist bump instead of a handshake... :')
thanks for the chapter!! god. what a great manga
 
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Isn't this a plot hole?
Saya is surprised that transferring a consciousness into a robotic body is possible, when she met that movie freak in chapter 3, who had done exactly that.
I think she means a real one. That guy couldn't even move and was connected to a bunch of wires. I think she means a more advanced android like the one depicted. That guy was nothing more then a movie projector projecting a human mind.
 
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The timeline on this story is... long.

A thousand years before, there was a great world war, and they clearly already had pretty advanced tech already... then they stopped, rethought about their priorities, and built the cities and giant self sustaining mega structures.

But even after hard decisions were made to not fall into another war... a sect of dumbasses still passed around the myths pertaining to the reasons of the war, and it was entrenched and strong enough that with time, those idiots rose to the top of the ruling structure and forgot why they sealed those crystals in the first place.

Anyway... I am a little worried now, because... this feels like it will be aliens, I really hope it ain't aliens.

Every time a manga brings aliens as the reason for every bad thing, it weakens the story... I hope those crystals ARE manmade, that the marebito is just some sort of high-dimensional construct that went rogue, but that everything is just technology working on principles humanity hasn't fully understood, and that is why things went out of control.

But no aliens... mind you, aliens can be fun, but manga has a bad record using them.
It kind of reminds of that trope where the mc only has the power they have because of their parents, it isn't anything innate or learned. It, again, weakens the story.

Tsutomu Nihei's new manga Tower Dungeon id the same thing. The mc is crazy strong and seemingly invincible, but turns out he's only strong because he's the kInGs SeCrET sOn. Dropped it right there, which sucks because it was pretty good despite that...
 
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love how far Isami has come. "I'm not saying I forgive that man from Daigiren...but more than that, I want to honour what she's feeling right now"
"if we say she's not human...we're no different from the people who denied us"
AND Isami accomodating Vinny by offering a fist bump instead of a handshake... :')
thanks for the chapter!! god. what a great manga
The dialogue in this chapter was very good. What Isami said just before that was great too: "Burying the dead... was her mission. It was all she had. If you were thrown into a world that already ended... and given a life that never ends... how would you feel?"

Makes up for my disappointment in what has felt like a genre shift in these past several chapters.
 
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Isn't this a plot hole?
Saya is surprised that transferring a consciousness into a robotic body is possible, when she met that movie freak in chapter 3, who had done exactly tha

Alright, so 1000 years ago humans ruined everything by fighting over giant high-energy crystals that Daigiren call Marebito? Wars ended, crystals were hidden and Daigiren is responsible for both rebuilding civilization and immediately ruining it again with the Executioners? The Executioners, through consumption or miasma, killed humans and converted their bodies into suspiciously crystalline clusters? These same crystals appearing on the bodies of children born from pregnant women killed by the Executioners rendering them apparently immune to the miasma?

Wild stuff, love it. I wonder if the Marebito are non-carbon based lifeforms and the altered children are some form of hybrid between them and humanity. They may even be what Daigiren wanted out of the whole Executioner plan, a bridge to interacting with the Marebito directly.
Yep good summary, and the hybrid theory is interesting.
Daigiren really comes off as cult-like, just with science instead of faith to me. I mean with the executioners and miasma its clear they are willing to do anything to find the Marebito (whom the worship like a god)
 
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Yep good summary, and the hybrid theory is interesting.
Daigiren really comes off as cult-like, just with science instead of faith to me. I mean with the executioners and miasma its clear they are willing to do anything to find the Marebito (whom the worship like a god)
(Also idk whether its a typo or not but the crystals arent called Marebito the Daigiren believe the crystals were brouught by the Marebito)
 
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The timeline on this story is... long.

A thousand years before, there was a great world war, and they clearly already had pretty advanced tech already... then they stopped, rethought about their priorities, and built the cities and giant self sustaining mega structures.

But even after hard decisions were made to not fall into another war... a sect of dumbasses still passed around the myths pertaining to the reasons of the war, and it was entrenched and strong enough that with time, those idiots rose to the top of the ruling structure and forgot why they sealed those crystals in the first place.

Anyway... I am a little worried now, because... this feels like it will be aliens, I really hope it ain't aliens.

Every time a manga brings aliens as the reason for every bad thing, it weakens the story... I hope those crystals ARE manmade, that the marebito is just some sort of high-dimensional construct that went rogue, but that everything is just technology working on principles humanity hasn't fully understood, and that is why things went out of control.

But no aliens... mind you, aliens can be fun, but manga has a bad record using them.
I don’t think they forgot at all — they knew why those decisions were made, but over time people twist ideas and repurpose plans for their own benefit. Its human nature lol.
humans know better and still do it anyway, which is why Vinny saying Humans are disgusting is pretty accurate lmao.
 

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