Wasureenu Majo no Monogatari - Vol. 3 Ch. 15 - The Unforeseeable October 5th

[PixelCrow12]

So how far has manga gone and where is the LN at right now chapter and volume-wise?

 

[deathpigeon]

So how far has manga gone and where is the LN at right now chapter and volume-wise?

This is, like, a sixth or fifth of the way through the fourth chapter of the first volume of the light novel. There's an epilogue and an extra to volume 1 as well, but no additional chapters, per se, and then there's a second volume with a prologue, three chapters, and an epilogue.

It seems like the next volume of the manga will be the rest of volume 1 of the light novel covering the rest of chapter 4, the epilogue, and the extra.

 

[bluestar77]

Yuuka gave me weird vibes, but I didn't expect her to be a complete psycho 😭

 

[Clover_Zero]

I knew the time loop was coming one way or another, but I sure as hell didn't expect Yuuka being a witch who can do such a thing. Some things make more sense now (and it also makes sense that there's someone other than Aya with weird powers, I like it). I still don't completely get Aya's ability, but cool.

Re: Zero (which I also love) but lesbian, you said? How exciting!!

 

[PetrichorScanlations]

and is her true power not the ability to relive days, but 're-observation'? or is re-observation just the true power of her perfect memory ability, on top of being able to relive days too?
also Yuuka still has no memory of the erased days, despite it being revealed that shes the one whos been choosing the days?

Normal people recall memories, but she can reobserve them. So instead of thinking of something that happened before (a memory which is condensed and edited and limited), she can basically revisit any scene within her mind and essentially be there again to look at everything from every angle for as long as she wants. Ayaka experiences this as a reliving while Yuuka calls this reobservation.

Can't get over how over the top the accident is. The first car needed to have a speed way over the speed limit it's supossed to drive in to actually manage that stunt. Plus, i'm no no specialist but i don't think cars are suposs to explode on impact with another car, they're not made of C4.

The OTTness is explained later, in a way.

 

[rikahime]

Can't get over how over the top the accident is. The first car needed to have a speed way over the speed limit it's supossed to drive in to actually manage that stunt. Plus, i'm no no specialist but i don't think cars are suposs to explode on impact with another car, they're not made of C4.

Yeah, the whole accident is so cartoonish lmao. It's comedic, even.

 

[lluNhpelA]

I've read through the comments but I'm still struggling a bit to understand what's happening here. Let's see if I have this right;

• Aya's power is basically mental time travel and, as a result, she also experiences alternate timelines and can thus mentally return to them at-will.
• Yuuka, on the other hand, can copy/paste events. She can't observe the other possibilities on her own, but if she knows that something happens in a different timeline she can choose whether or not it becomes reality, perhaps locking it in at the end of the day at the same time Aya's days reset.
• Since Aya woke up on May 24-A in her own room rather than Yuuka's apartment, it means a day where Yuuka died had been chosen, however, the version of Yuuka on May 23-F (i think), was informed of the accident and snipped it from the other versions of that day, so the accident effectively never happened in any timeline.

Here's what I'm really confused about:

• Why was there only one Oct 5? I assume that wasn't Yuuka's doing since she's apparently will to let Aya try that day again.
• Was Yuuka actually the reason good days are rarely chosen, or is that a natural aspect of Aya's power?
• Can Yuuka actually choose the day, or can she just cut out events? When she says that "today" will not be chosen, is she just just forcibly deleting everything back to when Michiru was alive? Is she using Aya as a focus to make Oct 5 come after Oct 6? Just what exactly is Yuuka doing here and how does Aya's power play into it?
  • If Yuuka can choose days, why didn't she choose the May 23 where she survived instead of just cutting the accident?
• How does Aya's power keep her from dying? Without Yuuka being involved, would Aya just keep repeating a day indefinitely until she manages to survive? (I figure we'll get the answer to this one pretty quick)

tbh I'd be satisfied just knowing that this stuff gets clarified in later chapters

 

[EchoGirl]

Yuuka doesnt remember the days she snipped, her power is only useful when she gets info about these days from Aya, that's why she is very eager and always wants to listen about the days Aya went through so she can find them easily before the current day ends and decide if she wants Aya to relive that day.

it's interesting that that'd be a 'weakness' of the power, unless that's a 'blessing' to contrast mc haunted by 5x as much memory space/usage in her head , tho if mc still remembers idk if she'll rly help her in the future or admit that she knows about her powers or so but idk

 

[PetrichorScanlations]

Here's what I'm really confused about:

• Why was there only one Oct 5? I assume that wasn't Yuuka's doing since she's apparently will to let Aya try that day again.
• Was Yuuka actually the reason good days are rarely chosen, or is that a natural aspect of Aya's power?
• Can Yuuka actually choose the day, or can she just cut out events? When she says that "today" will not be chosen, is she just just forcibly deleting everything back to when Michiru was alive? Is she using Aya as a focus to make Oct 5 come after Oct 6? Just what exactly is Yuuka doing here and how does Aya's power play into it?
  • If Yuuka can choose days, why didn't she choose the May 23 where she survived instead of just cutting the accident?
• How does Aya's power keep her from dying? Without Yuuka being involved, would Aya just keep repeating a day indefinitely until she manages to survive? (I figure we'll get the answer to this one pretty quick)

tbh I'd be satisfied just knowing that this stuff gets clarified in later chapters

Without getting into spoilers, it does get clarified later, yes. Specifically, your first and last questions will be thoroughly addressed and are basically the driving theme of this arc.

Yuuka's powers and the extent to which she uses them are pretty vague, ngl. What she did in this chapter... She can turn possibilities into reality but those possibilities have to be grounded in reality in the first place. That's why she calls Aya a telescope. With Aya able to "see" so many "real" possibilities thanks to her repeating days, she's an invaluable resource for Yuuka's ability. The stitching together and making a hodgepodge, unfortunately, doesn't get explained much better in the light novel.

 

[EchoGirl]

well, there's not a tragedy tag (unless that'd be a spoiler, tho i feel like i've seen 'tragedy' tags for when something happens in chapter one and then they move on/cope with it), so hopefully she'd be able to bring inaba back or i guess move on but i think even with a time skip readers would be infuriated if her love interest was permanently killed off

 

[beThereShortly]

Okay.
Holy shit! This is taking quite the turn but I am here for it!

I respect the decision to wait until the release of volume 4 before continuing the translation. I think it will help quite a lot to digest all the things that have happened so far.
I'll be looking forward to volume 4.

 

[UnnamedPlayer]

Ok, things go wild in this chapter, but also begin to make no sense. I'm curious about what the story will become, but i doubt i will like it.

 

[Kamui]

Not gonna lie, this chapter killed my interest on this series quite a bit. The explanations for the bullshit that happened on this chapter need to be pretty damn good.

 

[enthusiastically.y]

is Yuuka a kid liker and incester 🤔 (Yuuka is a Adult and she's MC's cousin Soo..)

 

[deathpigeon]

is Yuuka a kid liker and incester 🤔 (Yuuka is a Adult and she's MC's cousin Soo..)

Basically. Her love at first sight was when Aya was 10.

 

[enthusiastically.y]

Basically. Her love at first sight was when Aya was 10.

Yuuka was in like highschool when she meets Aya and assuming that Yuuka was a 2nd year.. That makes her 6/7 years older then Aya(who's rn a 1st year so 15/16) so shes 21/22 and is inlove with a 15/16 y/o who ALSO happens to be her somewhat cousin or relative 😭

 

[vixawi1793]

now it makes sense why Aya woke up in her room after Yuuka's "undeath". i thought it was a plot inconsistency since the day moved forward but Aya didn't wake up with Yuuka but now it's been explained that it's only because Yuuka stitched the days together

tho ngl the explanation for Aya's power is still confusing to me but they might get elaborated later on

 

[Roodypatooti]

Yuuka was in like highschool when she meets Aya and assuming that Yuuka was a 2nd year.. That makes her 6/7 years older then Aya(who's rn a 1st year so 15/16) so shes 21/22 and is inlove with a 15/16 y/o who ALSO happens to be her somewhat cousin or relative 😭

Yuuka was 18 when she first met Aya, who was 10 at the time. She was already an adult when they first met, and she's been grooming Aya and making her dependant on her continuously for the 5 years since. So yes, Yuuka is a predator. Them being cousins is probably the least gross part about it overall tbh.

 

[Roodypatooti]

One way to better explain Aya's memory power would be with the example of the invisible gorilla test. I'm sure most of you have heard of it, but I'll explain it anyway. It was an experiment from the 70's that demonstrated how perception and memory are strongly affected by selective attention.
It went like this: test subjects are shown a video of a group of people passing a ball amongst themselves, and told to count how many times people wearing white in the video throw the ball. After the video ends and they report the count they tallied, they are then asked if they saw the gorilla. Part way through the video, a man in a gorilla suit enters the center of the frame briefly, but half of all subjects fail to notice him, despite him clearly being in their field of view. The visual information reaches their eyes, but because they're too focused on counting the passes, they don't mentally register it and it isn't committed to memory. Despite all subjects having technically "seen" the gorilla, if they failed to notice it the first time then no amount of retracing their memories will let them remember seeing it.

Aya is different. Instead of her memory being stored as simplified information in her brain, her mind is a kind of information time machine. Any sensory information she's ever received in her life, any thought she's ever formed, any emotion she's ever felt, she can experience again at any point as if experiencing it for the first time. This includes all sensory information she receives, including things she failed to notice the first time. If Aya was a subject in the invisible gorilla test, even if she failed to notice the gorilla while actually watching the video, she would be able to remember it by reviewing her memories of the video afterwards. Which is something no one else can do, no matter what. Her power would essentially let her rewatch the video in her head as many times as she wanted while knowing to look for the gorilla, all in an instant because her memories of the whole video are recalled simultaneously.

On the other hand, if she didn't "perceive" the gorilla at all, like if he only walked behind her while she was watching the video and she didn't hear or smell him, then no amount of reviewing her memories would let her notice him. Aya doesn't actually travel back in time while reliving her memories, she can't change her previous actions at all. It's more like she's calling her past thoughts and sensations forward in time to the present. In fact, she doesn't really have a "memory" at all, none of her "memories" seem to exist as information that's actually stored in her brain. Her thoughts, feelings, and perceptions only existing in the present moment before fading, but all that information can be summoned back from the past an infinite amount of times afterwards. So in effect, her memories are stored in the past instead of in her brain.

A side effect of this unusual system of memory is that her memories can't ever fade or be forgotten, or become corrupted or misremembered. They always remain as fresh and clear as when she was actually experiencing them. She is in fact, totally incapable of forgetting anything barring through magical means, no matter how much she might want to. It's just not how her "memory" works.

It's heavily implied going forward that the days occurring multiple times and reseting completely between each possible iteration is just a normal aspect of reality, but due to the fact none of Aya's memories are actually stored in her head, they can't be reset, so she's the only one who can notice that the days are repeating. So the reiteration of every day is a completely separate phenomenon from her power, originally at least. They somehow became connected through Aya being the only one to experience all the day iterations and therefore observe which is chosen, so now no "day" can be chosen unless Aya is there to observe that it's been chosen.

I.E. if Aya dies on a certain iteration of a day, that iteration cannot be chosen, because she wouldn't be around tomorrow to observe that it was chosen.
The superposition of all possible iterations of any given day is collapsed by Aya being capable of observing them all, such that only one of the possible days can become the yesterday that preceded tomorrow, instead of multiple simultaneously.
Quantum mechanics is confusing, I know.

 

[BSPancake]

That was the most Final Destination type bullshit I've ever seen in a manga. First of all, the car ramping off that truck shouldn't have even been possible cause there was already one strapped onto it. Second of all, that ramp was super shallow, so it shouldn't have launched that high even if there wasn't a car on it. Third of all, you can see the car that it starts flying towards parallel to the truck as it passes the girls, so it should have never even been in it's flight path. Fourth, there's a statistic done by Progressive that 0.04% of cars catch fire each year. So the chances of a car literally EXPLODING upon impact are probably less than 0.001%, so that shouldn't have happened either. Fifth, I know people panic, but you have just a random fucking guy just veering straight into the guard rail for literally no reason, he wasn't involved in the crash at all. Sixth, the hood that splatters Michiru all over the pavement AT MOST would weigh 35 pounds, which would really fucking hurt, but not be nearly enough to turn her into a pile of mush instantly.

I get it's stupid to expect logic in manga, but this is just on another level of retarded. I'm giving the author one chapter to redeem it, but I'll be dropping it if it sucks.