Watashitachi wa Koi wo Shiranai - Vol. 3 Ch. 20

[Harambe]

@Karsh You have a point on this being a Comedy manga which give it a bit of leeway when it comes down to building character. But I disagree about your comparison between muscles and Breasts, and with that all your argument about how her being obsessed with her breasts is the same as Inohara Masato from 'Little Busters!' being obsessed with muscle.

I know that I'm getting a bit off topic here, but here me out. Being obsessed about something that you can change through effort is something that can be seen a lot on the actual world, after all if you're willing to put in the effort in improving your body, you'll want to talk (and/or share) about it to other people. The same case can't be said to being obessed about your Breasts however, or really anything unchangeable and/or set from birth. Take for example someone's face, seeing someone being obsessed with their face certainly feel different than seeing someone being obsessed with their Muscle. What I'm trying to say is that, yes, I feel distasteful from seeing her.

Although know that I'm writing this, I did realize that I'm putting a bit of double standard in comparing her traits to the others. My only counter argument to that is that the other character 'shtick' is already an estabilished norm in Anime/Manga, giving it much more of a familiarity than Sato's obsession with her breasts. ALthough that isn't really an argument and much more subjective opinion for me.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls see, this is how you just don't understand other people and being dick and expecting people to be like you. people could know love, but not experienced it. they could act like they are in love, but since they have no experience about love, they don't know what they feel is love, but other people might realize. how is that even lead to abusive relationship is beyond me. people not understanding is not same people being ignorance like you.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls whoah man, it was you that enforcing view how character is dumb and bad despite both has clearly saying none of them ever fall in love and this is their first love. how am i forced my view when i simply try to put empathy in character? they simply didn't understood, not rejecting or making new kind of love. there is no ill intent here. they will slowly realize their feeling, but it's fine to taking baby steps.

also your example clearly not what this series about. seems like you are projecting? that's how it's look like for me. people are different. and both main character of this series has 0 experience in romantic feelings, one is too used on his borther-sister upbringing while the heroine is introvert.

why you forcing a character had to be reacting the way you want? why you keep enforcing your view to character? are you protesting because you can't self inserting yourself to character simply because they not acting the way you wanted to?

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls i think we are not even in same page? why are you quoting me?

You are forcing your views on other people because you're saying people are in love without them knowing it. Here, Amano LEGITIMATELY AND SINCERELY believes she is not in love. You're the one looking down on her. You're the one saying she is wrong. You're the one saying you know what she really feels. You're the one forcing your ideas on her character and saying she is in love but just doesn't know it.

but both kuga and amano both act like in love each other. people around them simply pointing that, but none of them enforcing it to them and let both to discover it them self as this and previous chapter pointed out. even editor not clearly saying to amano, but give her support.

So YOU understand? You're saying that you know better than what the characters themselves think? You know better than what real life people in similar situations think? That is you forcing your ideas on others.

i tough you have a problem when both character don't know love but engaging relationship? there is more relationship than love, which both character not sure where it is. and that's fine. it's not like they are in hurry or something.

Do you not understand that there's something called logic? If you support one thing, then you logically have to support similar things UNLESS you can give a reason not to. To put it another way, treat similar things similarly. That is logic. You're literally not using logic if you don't understand that.

there is sure logic, but there is also emotion. and clearly, both character not have same emotion what example you try to imply.

You're the one doing that. Use logic. Use reason. You're the one forcing your views on others.

Do you seriously not understand your contradictions and how you are the one forcing your ideas on others? It's not that hard to understand.

again, you are attacking the series for what it is. which is make it illogical why you read this series to begin with.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls

There is a series about a boy who gets the power to rape all females he meets, and he does so. That is literally what the series is about. According to what you said, NO ONE should be allowed to criticize that. No one is allowed to make a comment on that. That is what you are justifying.

no? but you should at least expecting that since that's literally what it promised. again, it's dumb to see action series than complain that there is weapon showed. alsoi never see a series justify rape as good things. most of time if there is rape, it's not something that encouraging rape or something you should take it seriously. with same logic, porn about rape is literally rape, which is slippery slope. next time, though crime is a thing.

On the rest, you have to understand what justify means. Your position is bad because it justifies bad things. Sure, it might not be bad IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE, but if we follow what you said, what the other characters said, then it JUSTIFIES bad things. Yeah, it's okay for this story to say people can be in love but not know it because the story is under the control of the author. Nothing bad will happen because the author will make sure of that. However, if we apply that same belief to other situations, it leads to bad things. It justifies bad things. That's what I said about the abusive relationship.

which part is bad? since none of character have bad intents or doing something bad, not even the love rivals.

Do you not understand that is what justify means? You talked about me projecting, but you keep projecting your own views and expect everything to fit neatly in your own world. Oh, it works here, so it must work everywhere else. That is what you are doing.

i never justify anything, it's just you that has weird very specific expectation to a series that never offer them to begin with then throw tantrum like a child when those expectation not filled. i am not even mad, i just found it pretty amusing.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls "i said it's bad because i tough it's bad because my imaginary situation that might come up in real life."

yeah, great argument you have there buddy. whatever floats your boat man. what's next? war manga is bad because it teach kids how to war. 10/10

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls wow man, you seems have cancerous people around you. maybe reduce those kind of people. i glad i avoid those kind of people.

 

[moegamisama]

Well this is certainly the most lively comment thread on any chapter I've ever posted

To the people disgusted about the love triangle, peep chapter 21. It makes things a little more clear.

The discussion of not realizing you're in love seems to have derailed a bit, but I'll just add my two cents --

The denseness in this manga is definitely overstated (it's a manga, after all), but I think it's not all that uncommon for young adolescents to start experiencing romantic feelings for the first time and not really understand what it is they're feeling. It's easy for those feelings to grow out of things like friendship (in Amano's case) or even small animal adorableness (in Kuga's, admittedly less common case), and not really notice yourself that your feelings have deepened over time. I think that capturing the moments of that change is something that manga and anime do really well, which is why I enjoy working on series like this

 

[Phantomaniac]

@givemersspls Why the hell are you so upset over a stupid romcom manga? Are you so bored that you need to be outraged over something so insignificant? Jesus Christ dude.

 

[avatarivn]

So, denying your love for your crush causes your breasts to grow? that can't be, I would be dragging mine on the floor if that were the case. Also, blonde wing(wo)man is back yay!!

 

[primrosea]

I can't understand why we have heated debate on comment section about a fluff manga...

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls quite the opposite in fact. i have harsh childhood that couldn't even afford to eat 3 times a day. hence i have very acceptance outlook of life since i easily grateful from what i currently have. there couldn't be worse than my childhood, could be? who know. i don't know other people life. i don't try to seek legitimization out of my own misery. people past is not a reason for someone to seek justification, both in real life and in fiction.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls are you talking about character around main couple? that are their speculation. but none of them enforcing it to main couple. just sometimes give expression "girl/guy, you act like you are in love". i don't see it as other than harmless teasing. none of those character being judgmental as you somewhat imaginary imply.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls so, the editor and seto is imagining too? both of girl pointed out how amano is only open to kuga and very concerned about him also overly conscious with how she behave when around him. again, none of them ditch amano simply because amano didn't realize it on it's own. both of them fine it cute and pure.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls who are enforcing? did both of them go like "girl you are stupid, it's love you jack ass, kuga is not deserving you?"? what is this delusion? even editor isn't sure, but welcoming it. and again, the fact that it's only when it's around kuga also seto noticing amano kind of jealous give her a hint, but also again, she not do anything bad to amano. why you act like character around them is complite asshole just because they guessing, which in the end only result in light teasing? do you have personal grudge against those kind of character, dude? wtf. not even amano or kuga is angry. why you?

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls whoah dude, amano is slightly annoyed, but not angry or become total apeshit like you. it's not like she hold a grudge against any of them. seriously, if you offended by light teasing, i don't think you will ever enjoy your life or have friends.

also if this light teasing is enough to give that much pressure, maybe it was you that being overreacting.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls in my life, such a thing is normal, none of them is lead to bad things. everyone know it's light teasing and know the limits to not crossing private life. and if it's turn correct, everyone happy, if not, no one also said bad things. it's still their freedom.

again, dude, why you angry by some light teasing? are you THAT easy get triggered?

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls again, if you are easily triggered, overreacting and pressured over light teasing, maybe you are the one that being oversensitive, which is not their fault.

or maybe people around you is that cancerous to obstruct someone private life.

none of the character in this series soo far act that way.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls then why are you talking it here dude? i am not projecting, but since it is in this forum discussion, obviously the context will using this series as discussion material. seriously, i am at lost.

 

[kuma]

@givemersspls and this series is wrong just because there is potentially something wrong happened IRL? dude, that's petty.