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every time someone brings up a topic they act like "Feminist" (or any group) are all one hivemind and act like theyre cant be stupid ones and smart ones lmao, you can tell by reading a lot of criticisms about these topics they experience life through the internet and tv instead of actual real life experience

not everything is black and white

also when people criticize porn its most likely about the "subconscious harm" it brings when it comes to the acts in certain genres of porn, like the objectification of women or stereotypical racist non sense like "blacked" (like animalistic) and viewers or people who consume to much of that media start to subconsciously think that about that group of people

i didn't wanna get too into all that so i tried to simplify it as much as possible sorry if its confusing lol

also multiple things can be bad at once too...
 
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also when people criticize porn its most likely about the "subconscious harm" it brings when it comes to the acts in certain genres of porn, like the objectification of women or stereotypical racist non sense like "blacked" (like animalistic) and viewers or people who consume to much of that media start to subconsciously think that about that group of people
I think anyone who is part of a group that it gets its own fetish tag on on pornography sites can attest that people are influenced both consciously and subconsciously by the messages they take in through that type of media- not that different than my criticism of outrage media, really, which I imagine a lot of people see as something that won't impact them in a significant way.

A lot of people are very hostile to the idea that they are subconsciously influenced in any way by anything, though, at least to an extent that impacts thought or behavior. Not that I don't engage with some questionable media myself- much more questionable, than, say, something like My Hero Academia that may get criticized on twitter due to being more well known-, but I think any media, any interpersonal interaction, and any life experience impact us in at least some small way. If you accept that then at least you can have some awareness of it and account for it when you make decisions.
 
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Just reading this thread makes the Urban Dictionary definition of "woke" being outdated. I don't know why @araya_tatsuya likes that Vtuber that much, but Youtubers (with or without avatars) and Influencers in any platform inculcate those prejudices and use them as pawns to flood with hate speach the intended sites: one example was a person who went to the extend of saying "die you degenerates" to the victims of KyotoAni provoked fire (you know, that madman) on Twitter. They also use as a thrown weapon the amount of suicides that are in Japan every year (the highest in the world) just to diss weebs/otakus and mock art fans comparing them to hikikomoris and sexual predators. Of course they do all this in a hypocritical way, but this is how anti-intellectualism acts, and this happens in all kind of topics/discussions.
About derailing the discussing to feminism, even the movement is not homogeneous, but I'll summarise the points: regarding worklife, they need to prove to be better than male candidates to get a job or a promotion and even though their wage is lower and unpaid overtime, despite having laws against these practices in several countries. Moreover, they're forced to retire to have off-spring in several countries and expected to take care of elderly relatives with no compensation during their free time. Both as a work live and live style, those who fail to find a proper job have to choose to sell their image/body, by working on certain industry service where only women are asked to because patriarcal standards and those who need to resort to any degree of prostitution to survive. Between porn, sex service and human trafficking the line is so thin they're constantly abused (alegal and illegal verbal contracts have this things, but even in countries where prostitution is allowed they are unable to fight mafias) and one wrong move and you'll end up enslaved. And finally there are the sexuality issues, where they're expected to prove that they're being targetted by homophobes, they've been drugged and abused and when they don't consent to do whatever. As for why I added it, those high-handed (woke) people usually are responsible of everything I just explained to keep happening. That's the extend of their hypocrisy.
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I think anyone who is part of a group that it gets its own fetish tag on on pornography sites can attest that people are influenced both consciously and subconsciously by the messages they take in through that type of media- not that different than my criticism of outrage media, really, which I imagine a lot of people see as something that won't impact them in a significant way.

A lot of people are very hostile to the idea that they are subconsciously influenced in any way by anything, though, at least to an extent that impacts thought or behavior. Not that I don't engage with some questionable media myself- much more questionable, than, say, something like My Hero Academia that may get criticized on twitter due to being more well known-, but I think any media, any interpersonal interaction, and any life experience impact us in at least some small way. If you accept that then at least you can have some awareness of it and account for it when you make decisions.
i agreed 100% with you until that very last part, can you elaborate?
 
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my man i tried doing that but things are crazy right now. i tried to do what you said but..
even elon musk has responded on this and these people are trying to get asmon cancelled
Yeah.

Woke Culture is censorship and mind control. That basically sums it up. What they desire, is a world where they have the right to decide what is morally acceptable, what you are allowed to think (and if you don't they want to be able to destroy you), and what society is allowed to discuss.

In short, they want to control you and your life, and mine as well. They want to control the expression of art and they even want to censor history and rewrite it the way they prefer.
 
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thats still a minority compared to the amount of porn with women just saying, anime is literally half sexualizing women and girls as weeb you should understand this im not saying men cant be sexualized its just not as bad as women have it im apart of the problem too im not speaking from a soapbox ive sexualized women before too lol
Umm, you can go to porn hub and see that most of the accounts there are women who do amateur porn for free. They like it. Their viewers like it. The people complaining about it are wokies and the mis-guided eternal virgins on a quest for absolute celibacy.
 
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unrelated, but if a manga you guys read had ti get an extremly good and faithfull adaptation, which one would have the worst fanbase in your opinion and why ?

for me, its a tie between knights and stravaganza but alita/gunnm is def bezting the two in terms of potential.

for knights and stravaganza it would have to be cause of the mc and how easily people are gonna turn it into a race/sex thing and miss the rest of the story.
for Alita its simply cause it's gonna atract the "your main guy is trans" crowd and also you're gonna see alot of ppl whining about how gally shouldn't be so trigger happy and kill ppl because they think she's a superhero.
 
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i agreed 100% with you until that very last part, can you elaborate?

There are lots of ways people can be influenced subconsciously in a way that impacts behavior. For something that seems less political, we can think about marketing, which is essentially the science of getting people to do what you want while thinking it was their choice.

This is from a book I read about the obesity epidemic.

"It might surprise you to learn that music can affect our consumption of beverages. In a study conducted by Western Kentucky University’s Dr. Ronald Milliman, researchers compared the effects of slow and fast music on the behavior of restaurant customers. They found that people lingered at restaurants longer when slow background music was piped in. Patrons spent about the same amount of money on food as those listening to fast music but ordered more drinks from the bar, spending 41 percent more on alcohol.

Customers in wine shops have been shown to be influenced by music as well; in one study, patrons were more likely to buy French wines when French music played and more likely to purchase German wines when German music was played. In another study, patrons spent more money on wine when classical music was played.

In an experiment by Professor Adrian North, previously of Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, restaurant customers treated to a soundtrack of classical music racked up bigger bills than customers listening to popular music. The classical music listeners were also more likely to order appetizers, coffee, and dessert. If asked, I’m sure none of these customers would say that music had anything to do with whether they ordered a cappuccino or tiramisu. But atmospherics certainly affected their food consumption."


- A Big Fat Crisis, Deborah Cohen

It shouldn't really be surprising if other entertainment media also has some kind of impact on people, though people might disagree about what that impact actually is. I am taking it a bit further and saying things like the people you spend your time with also have an impact.

A lot of times individual people would rather reject that there's any impact or, at least, that they are above this trend even if other people aren't. This is because they want to have an identity of themselves as a rational actor who is fully and consciously in control of all their choices. People will likewise reject near universal psychological biases that have been thoroughly confirmed by research for similar reasons.

However, if you accept that you're not like this and instead are influenced by various factors like subtle emotional associations, then you can practice self awareness. This means you will notice at least some of what you would have not noticed if you rejected the possibility out of hand. When you notice this, you can counteract it with a more deliberate message to yourself (eg, "I don't need to buy German beer specifically just because of this music") or decide that you don't like the influence X is having on you and you will avoid it ("I will buy the wine online instead").

Accepting that there are subconscious influences also means you can stay open to the idea that you were influenced to make a sub optimal response or decision in a way you didn't notice, which means you can reevaluate past behavior to see if there was a mistake. People who think they cannot be influenced will often double down on the behavior instead and try to find someone else to blame.

This doesn't mean that, say, watching harem anime has whatever particular impact some random person on twitter says it has, but I do think it is going to have some kind of impact. I don't know if that makes sense, but this is at least my understanding of how this works.
 
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There are lots of ways people can be influenced subconsciously in a way that impacts behavior. For something that seems less political, we can think about marketing, which is essentially the science of getting people to do what you want while thinking it was their choice.

This is from a book I read about the obesity epidemic.

"It might surprise you to learn that music can affect our consumption of beverages. In a study conducted by Western Kentucky University’s Dr. Ronald Milliman, researchers compared the effects of slow and fast music on the behavior of restaurant customers. They found that people lingered at restaurants longer when slow background music was piped in. Patrons spent about the same amount of money on food as those listening to fast music but ordered more drinks from the bar, spending 41 percent more on alcohol.

Customers in wine shops have been shown to be influenced by music as well; in one study, patrons were more likely to buy French wines when French music played and more likely to purchase German wines when German music was played. In another study, patrons spent more money on wine when classical music was played.

In an experiment by Professor Adrian North, previously of Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, restaurant customers treated to a soundtrack of classical music racked up bigger bills than customers listening to popular music. The classical music listeners were also more likely to order appetizers, coffee, and dessert. If asked, I’m sure none of these customers would say that music had anything to do with whether they ordered a cappuccino or tiramisu. But atmospherics certainly affected their food consumption."


- A Big Fat Crisis, Deborah Cohen

It shouldn't really be surprising if other entertainment media also has some kind of impact on people, though people might disagree about what that impact actually is. I am taking it a bit further and saying things like the people you spend your time with also have an impact.

A lot of times individual people would rather reject that there's any impact or, at least, that they are above this trend even if other people aren't. This is because they want to have an identity of themselves as a rational actor who is fully and consciously in control of all their choices. People will likewise reject near universal psychological biases that have been thoroughly confirmed by research for similar reasons.

However, if you accept that you're not like this and instead are influenced by various factors like subtle emotional associations, then you can practice self awareness. This means you will notice at least some of what you would have not noticed if you rejected the possibility out of hand. When you notice this, you can counteract it with a more deliberate message to yourself (eg, "I don't need to buy German beer specifically just because of this music") or decide that you don't like the influence X is having on you and you will avoid it ("I will buy the wine online instead").

Accepting that there are subconscious influences also means you can stay open to the idea that you were influenced to make a sub optimal response or decision in a way you didn't notice, which means you can reevaluate past behavior to see if there was a mistake. People who think they cannot be influenced will often double down on the behavior instead and try to find someone else to blame.

This doesn't mean that, say, watching harem anime has whatever particular impact some random person on twitter says it has, but I do think it is going to have some kind of impact. I don't know if that makes sense, but this is at least my understanding of how this works.
Ahh okay i understand, yeah i agree lol thank you for going into detail about that
 
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Yeah.

Woke Culture is censorship and mind control. That basically sums it up. What they desire, is a world where they have the right to decide what is morally acceptable, what you are allowed to think (and if you don't they want to be able to destroy you), and what society is allowed to discuss.

In short, they want to control you and your life, and mine as well. They want to control the expression of art and they even want to censor history and rewrite it the way they prefer.
satire? this is what people mean when they say "woke" has lost any meaning

what the fuck are yall talking about 😭 who is trying to censor you and what are they censoring you about???

also sex work is fine as long as they consent to it... also what does that gotta do with what you replied to lmao? (what do you think theyre saying lol?)
 
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satire? this is what people mean when they say "woke" has lost any meaning

what the fuck are yall talking about 😭 who is trying to censor you and what are they censoring you about???

also sex work is fine as long as they consent to it... also what does that gotta do with what you replied to lmao? (what do you think theyre saying lol?)
Censoring is what those "paladins of justice" do, they not only go against it but want to change others POV and thinking to theirs because they claim it's the only rightful ones. The long essay was to explain how one can influence others indirectly, in short. And the problem with sex work (of any kind) is that only a small amount of people do it as a choice, the rest have no power of decision because they're unable to make money just to survive or are directly exploited/forced to, even if they say otherwise (because they don't want to be beaten/threatened/humiliated/snuffed or any of their relatives, that's why it's so hard to stop mafias). And if you're thinking of sugar daddies/mummies, besides extortion in countries such Japan people do that because it's the only way to socialise (there are books and documentaries about it).
 
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Censoring is what those "paladins of justice" do, they not only go against it but want to change others POV and thinking to theirs because they claim it's the only rightful ones. The long essay was to explain how one can influence others indirectly, in short. And the problem with sex work (of any kind) is that only a small amount of people do it as a choice, the rest have no power of decision because they're unable to make money just to survive or are directly exploited/forced to, even if they say otherwise (because they don't want to be beaten/threatened/humiliated/snuffed or any of their relatives, that's why it's so hard to stop mafias). And if you're thinking of sugar daddies/mummies, besides extortion in countries such Japan people do that because it's the only way to socialise (there are books and documentaries about it).
what in gods name is paladins of justice 😭 what do yall be saying??? also yeah the sex work industry does have a lot of issues

this "woke agenda" is not real guys time to go outside!!
 
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what in gods name is paladins of justice 😭 what do yall be saying??? also yeah the sex work industry does have a lot of issues

this "woke agenda" is not real guys time to go outside!!
First, the definition. "Paladins of Justice" is a metaphor, using a word to describe the same word is not a good practice, that's why I don't say "woke this and woke that". In plain speach, they're people who judge and don't accept to be judged, and in their delirium of fighting wrongdoers, contrary aesthetic works and criticising as they were the Pope, they proselytise their prejudices like messiahs and verbally attack anyone who doesn't approve that. Is that clear now?
Yeah waking up every morning and getting some sunlight is a pretty decent and healthy culture I'd say
Yep, ironically a good sarcasm that works for these people too.
 
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i agree with alrightcock this "woke agenda" is silly just another talking point of a certain leaning group in america at least be a middle aged man before going down that route please
 
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