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Am I the only one who had trouble following what the fuck is going on?
Wortenia Senki - Vol. 5 Ch. 24 - Elena's Revenge
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Huh... As far as I remember... Elena killed the wife and daughter before killing him.
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I wish more people would realize that manga adaptations always come from LIGHT novels, not WEB novels. Web novels are rough drafts, light novels are the finished product.
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That's what I was getting at. Only explanation was that Ryouma's martial arts are OP
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I suppose that would be the case then. I didn't think of that. The shield must have been very badly damaged, and the wood glue was shoddy. I can't find references for the effectiveness of medieval wood glue, but modern wood glue creates a stronger bond than a single piece of solid wood to itself. If the shield planks were stuck together with wood glue as good as modern wood glue, then the wooden part might as well have been a single piece of solid wood.
Still, the metal plate, even if it were relatively thin, shouldn't be easy to cut. Just for reference, historical plate armor is usually 1.5mm thick. Since the wielders could just use strengthening magic, weight is of no issue, and they could afford the plate to be thicker.
That's what I was getting at. Only explanation was that Ryouma's martial arts are OP
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I suppose that would be the case then. I didn't think of that. The shield must have been very badly damaged, and the wood glue was shoddy. I can't find references for the effectiveness of medieval wood glue, but modern wood glue creates a stronger bond than a single piece of solid wood to itself. If the shield planks were stuck together with wood glue as good as modern wood glue, then the wooden part might as well have been a single piece of solid wood.
Still, the metal plate, even if it were relatively thin, shouldn't be easy to cut. Just for reference, historical plate armor is usually 1.5mm thick. Since the wielders could just use strengthening magic, weight is of no issue, and they could afford the plate to be thicker.
Bunch of modern morals worshipper here
This is war remember, no such thing as Geneva convention this world
Even 'chivalry' is historically mostly stuff of novels not the reality, the mentioned kingdom's law only works if there are contradictory witnesses, of which if I was Elena (or insert any war victor here) I make sure nobody is
I haven't read the LN but will there be consequences from this 'massacre'? Most likely yes just for easier dramatic building
This is war remember, no such thing as Geneva convention this world
Even 'chivalry' is historically mostly stuff of novels not the reality, the mentioned kingdom's law only works if there are contradictory witnesses, of which if I was Elena (or insert any war victor here) I make sure nobody is
I haven't read the LN but will there be consequences from this 'massacre'? Most likely yes just for easier dramatic building
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Looks like history will be written by the victors again.
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i miss the twins girl already 
Katanas where meant to be used against bamboo armor or cloth, so they had to be sharp, but they are useless against metal plates. Europeans used maces or battleaxes to bash or swords to pierce the armor, they barely used it for cutting. Swords for cutting (cutlass and sabers) only became relevant when firearms appeared and turned armors useless.
Nobles: The princess sucks! Let's rule in her stead!
Princess: How dare you! This is war!
Nobles: Shit! We need the army!
Hodram: Ok, but you suck at fighting so I'll control it instead.
Nobles: No, you're worse than the princess! We'll go with her!
Hodram: Shit, everyone is against me, I need to escape!
Ryouma: Oh no you don't!
Princess: How dare you! This is war!
Nobles: Shit! We need the army!
Hodram: Ok, but you suck at fighting so I'll control it instead.
Nobles: No, you're worse than the princess! We'll go with her!
Hodram: Shit, everyone is against me, I need to escape!
Ryouma: Oh no you don't!
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@Verrone ah shit here we go again
Gaikotsu Kishi-sama, Tadaima Isekai e Odekake-chuu
Yasei no Last Boss ga Arawareta!
Tensei Kyuuketsuki-san wa Ohirune ga Shitai
Re:Monster
Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari
Jaryuu Tensei
and the red wolf behind the throne i don't know where he's from but so far all charactor in this picture is all the manga lhtranlator tranlate
@Verrone i don't mind i kinda fun to point out what these manga from
Gaikotsu Kishi-sama, Tadaima Isekai e Odekake-chuu
Yasei no Last Boss ga Arawareta!
Tensei Kyuuketsuki-san wa Ohirune ga Shitai
Re:Monster
Tensei Shitara Ken Deshita
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari
Jaryuu Tensei
and the red wolf behind the throne i don't know where he's from but so far all charactor in this picture is all the manga lhtranlator tranlate
@Verrone i don't mind i kinda fun to point out what these manga from
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@neednolife You are not alone. First it's about running away and stumbling onto two hot slave. Then, framed as a substitute of a princess which caused the MC to be dragged into a civil war...? Why the MC is fighting in the civil war in the first place?
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yea i have no idea wtf is going on with this story. could be that the length between each chapter is too long or the story not being memorable enough for me to remember what happened so far.
So for anyone with the patience, can you remind me:
What is this civil war about?
Who was Hodram?
Who is Elena and exactly why is she killing herself?
yea i have no idea wtf is going on with this story. could be that the length between each chapter is too long or the story not being memorable enough for me to remember what happened so far.
So for anyone with the patience, can you remind me:
What is this civil war about?
Who was Hodram?
Who is Elena and exactly why is she killing herself?
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1. Something about a bunch of nobles trying to rebel against the royal family. Trying to overthrow the first princess who should've been the next Queen, with a "completely made up, definitely never exist" second princess.
2. Some generic bad dudes who wants more power. Killed Elena's family.
3. Some awesome female knights in the past, her family was killed by Hodram. Planning to take down the entire Hodram family with her like what Hodram did to her.
I honestly don't know why the MC join the civil war, there is literally no reason the MC joined the war.
1. Something about a bunch of nobles trying to rebel against the royal family. Trying to overthrow the first princess who should've been the next Queen, with a "completely made up, definitely never exist" second princess.
2. Some generic bad dudes who wants more power. Killed Elena's family.
3. Some awesome female knights in the past, her family was killed by Hodram. Planning to take down the entire Hodram family with her like what Hodram did to her.
I honestly don't know why the MC join the civil war, there is literally no reason the MC joined the war.
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Wasn't it because they needed some backing because the guild used them? The Nobles Faction put in a compulsory request since one of the girls had the same color is the princess. If they declined, their license could be revoked which doubles as his ID. Since he attacked the 'requester' this would result in a failure which could give the same result or worse.
Wasn't it because they needed some backing because the guild used them? The Nobles Faction put in a compulsory request since one of the girls had the same color is the princess. If they declined, their license could be revoked which doubles as his ID. Since he attacked the 'requester' this would result in a failure which could give the same result or worse.
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Well, they have a hard time working independently if their license is revoked, I doubt they'd want to work for the Noble Faction who used them as bait, and taking charge is the most ideal because everybody around the princess is a complete dumbass who acts first and ask later. They function in an idealistic mindset which is why most, if not all, nobles decided to either be neutral or become part of the Noble Faction. It was Ryouma who got the support of couple nobles by playing on their self-interest. Elena could have taken the position, but she's already acting as an advisor.
Well, they have a hard time working independently if their license is revoked, I doubt they'd want to work for the Noble Faction who used them as bait, and taking charge is the most ideal because everybody around the princess is a complete dumbass who acts first and ask later. They function in an idealistic mindset which is why most, if not all, nobles decided to either be neutral or become part of the Noble Faction. It was Ryouma who got the support of couple nobles by playing on their self-interest. Elena could have taken the position, but she's already acting as an advisor.
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