Yancha Gal no Anjou-san - Vol. 13 Ch. 151 - Anjou-san Wants to Fool Around

[AlphaInsaiyan]

envy of a pathetic character???

Yeah that's why it's so sad lmfao stop pretending like you aren't

 

[SpunkyDragon]

people gotta get off seto's case. he explained it all in plain language in a previous chapter that he has just as much desire as she does but he treasures her so much he doesnt want to hurt or scare her if he comes on super strong, like he wants to. one of the things she fell in love with about him is how much he respects her so i think its totally fine for them. she knows that they both have the same goal but also that she has to be the one on the offensive the first time (or first few times maybe). she knows exactly that he's this kind of guy and thats why she fell in love with him.

THIIIIIS, y'all are being super hard on Seto. He's literally 17, and japanese are super reserved irl when it comes to physical demonstrations of love. They don't even kiss on public ffs. Ecchi manga has rotten your brain to the point where a teenager acting like a teenager and not like the protagonist from KanoKari is being treated as "just admit you're gay". Also kinda creepy how all these guys are acting as if being pressured into sex when he might not be ready is okay. Let my man do things at his own pace, that's what worked for him so far. SHE'S TEASING HIM CAUSE HE'S TIMID AND GETS FLUSTERED EASILY, that's the whole plot of the manga, if he gave in that fast, we wouldn't be here in the first place.

 

[SpunkyDragon]

If character of any gender is doing bullshit and most readers don't understand why are they doing it - that's the problem of writer, not the readers.

Nah dude, that's on the readers. The author can make something that's 100% explicit of a message, and the readers can still miss it. Its the reason of why "reading comprehension devil" is a thing. Not the author's fault if the readers are too caught up in their own projections to get the point of a character.

 

[CookieMonster]

Nah dude, that's on the readers. The author can make something that's 100% explicit of a message, and the readers can still miss it.

True, and also author can write painfully unnatural\forced\nonsensical\unnecessary vague etc bullshit. And even if majority of readers don't like it, there will be people who will justify everything and blame others for not understanding authors thoughts.
I mean, there are still a lot of people who defend kanokari.

 

[MGColin]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT WERE EATING GOOD TONIGHT BOIS

 

[Qwormuli]

People malding about Seto's reservation are really missing the point, hard. It's not like Seto doesn't like Anjou (should be obvious to us) or hates the idea of intimacy with her or even any lack of guts or whatever. It's the total and complete lack of groundwork with safe baseline intimacy within their relationship, or even Seto's life as a whole. All his life he's lived in an environment, where anything of the like isn't taken well and is to be chastised. You don't make passes at people, you don't sneak peeks and you especially don't get handsy. He plays it safe, too much so for us with a bird's eye view, but he does it because the last thing he ever wants to do here is to lose. Even their most emotionally intimate moments together are about other people expecting promiscuity off of Anjou and hurting her by just leaping in, making it the number one mistake Seto never wants to make. No step forward without a safe foothold, ever.

And what does Anjou do? she constantly pushes that envelope. But afterwards? She pulls back. Plays it off as a joke or makes fun of Seto for the position they are in and resets their relationship all the way back to the safe neutral they were in. She just raises the stakes more and more, making it riskier and riskier for a misstep, without actually taking the step and staying there. No safe footholds given. A masterclass in self sabotage. It's obvious that if you care about a game of poker and an opponent just goes all in from from a new card, that you fold while your losses are low. When the stakes are high and your hand has no assurance, you just don't go in if you care about the game.

They both are kind of at fault for this (a bit of a cop-out, I'll admit), but the ball is definitely in the court of Anjou here. Instead of endlessly raising the stakes and making the leaps of faith longer and riskier and the cost of missteps harsher, she needs to take steps forward in their intimacy without pulling back to ensure a new neutral level to be in and go forward from. Lower the stakes and show more cards to make the hand surer. That's where you can play forward. After that trust is formed and intimacy in the relationship has actually advanced, you can start poking it and fooling around with it. What you don't want to to do is make a rickety scaffolding and then take a golf club at it's base. Nothing gets built and the higher you are, the farther you fall. I thought this was just the most basic relationship 101 you could get; A step forward for a step forward in a two player game.

I thought we were in here to see two very different people make mistakes and learn from them to grow together, instead of just making all the mistakes at once and landing on the correct answer by pure luck.

 

[KazeFenrir]

No? Sometimes girls act this way in other manga, and people get equally upset with their behavior too. It's not about consent it's about character motivation and reasoning. If character of any gender is doing bullshit and most readers don't understand why are they doing it - that's the problem of writer, not the readers. So maybe author should explain why Seto keep saying no to his actual girlfriend and provide us with some believable reasons? Like for example being afraid of having the 1st sex. It's realistic and understandable. Maybe it's what's exactly happening with Seto right now, but author should express it properly. Instead we have the same old dumb and misleading words and thoutghs of Seto.

So on one hand kudos to mangaka for the actual intimate scene even if it won't end in actual sex, on other hand he should come up with something more reasonable than this "Nooo! Anjou-san you can't do it! Nooo!" that became obsolete long time ago and at this point is just outright irritating

People always try to pull this gender crap too. I'm sorry but the reality is men and women behave very differently in dating and mate selection, so to say" if it was reversed" is irrelevant to what we're talking about. We aren't dealing with that scenario, and even if we were Anjou continously respects his boundaries when he explains what they are and why. Men can be pushy and have a meek girlfriend, that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll cross boundaries when established. The female gender is very capable of sexual desire and aren't helpless at managing a significant others desires just because they aren't as motivated by the same thing.

If the genders were reversed and it actually bothered, you it means you're adhering to bad stereotypes that basically say women can't have agency or desire sex while being shy. That Setos whole thing, he desires her but he's uncfortable with pushing that on her or scaring her away because of it.

There is no pressure in this story to get him to do anything he doesn't want to, Anjou is just clearly the driving force of intimacy in the relationship. When she's rebuffed she naturally wonders if there's something she's doing wrong, or if Seto isn't interested in her. They resolve this by talking and they move forward a little bit.

I don't exactly like how he's characterized, yes, but that's because he's very uncomfortable with his sexuality. So much so that it comes off like he's some porn addicted incel who can't even smell a female without creaming his pants. To me and my life experience that's now how that works.

I haven't seen anything that establishes why or has explained it in a relevant way other than he studies a ton. There's no back story explaining trauma or a rad fem mom that tells him never to disrespect girls or something. It's bad character writing. After a whole you get comfortable with this stuff, and if you aren't there's a reason for that. Tell me why, but don't just tell me I'm supposed to root for some cliche weirdo who can't even glimpse cleavage without having a heart attack.

Other than that they have a very healthy relationship that's depicted in a reasonable manner.

 

[CookieMonster]

All his life he's lived in an environment, where anything of the like isn't taken well and is to be chastised.

Any evidence of it besides his dumb behavior?

 

[Yotomoe]

I'll be honest. Seto protests so much that I kimda want them to have an actual discussion. Like Anjou brought Seto here to see "what he wants to do with her." So just sit him down and see how far he wants to go. Make it clear she wants this. And then play off that. I love seeing Anjou take the lead (a lot.) But at this point it feels like they want different things out of this relationship and kinda just reinforces the idea that Gyaru are loose and nerds are shy virgins. Something I like when this manga subverts.

 

[Eggsburst]

WHOOAAAAAAAAAA WE'RE HALFWAY THERE

WHOOOAAAAA LIVIN ON A PRAYER

 

[ArtaN96]

Got him girl!

 

[LilBurglar]

seto's such a pussy

 

[Didjibro]

Ayo ayooo AAAYYYOOOOO!!!