Yumemiru Danshi wa Genjitsushugisha - Vol. 1 Ch. 2.1

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Anime completely ignored the pacing of the story and doing its own thing at this point. Hell they skipped the mother-sister insult combo which is pretty important to show what he deals with at home during the sister arc.
I agree I guess we’ll have to wait and see how they manage the skipped/changed part in the anime
 
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So he changed from being a simp to an idiot. Author’s have a hard time making interesting mcs.
 
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Really hated how he was all over her and the moment he decides to let her go she starts acting different and on top of that his family taking her side without knowing a damn thing. (I watched the anime first before reading this)
 
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Upgrade button? Fuck, go back! Go back! :notlikethis:

I-is this romantic regression? No, no, no... the Reiwa energy is evaporating!
He really just punched down in his self-esteem.

He seems to just fall into a new complex, and his family joined to beat him up.
 
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This would probably be better if he gave up because she's a tsundere and he's tired of abuse instead of blaming himself for not being good enough.

I'd kill for a series where the tsundere loses because of how abusive she is.
 
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To everybody here, a little PSA if you will: We are here reading a story and seeing tropes. But in a good series, the characters are their own people and seeing the other people as people (which those family members totally don't do and skip their IU perspective for some mishandled authorial commentary. But that's another issue.). We are seeing a MC-to-tsundere (god I hate these one-word characterizations ruining my mangos) communication and tropes involved. "If he just speedran to the destined end for these written characters, he'd score for sure!" we say. He sees a woman he's been idolizing (still does TBF) and endlessly pestering for ages with only in-universe very expectable endless rejection as a result. He realizes he's not the prince charming, even if he actually totally is as the MC. Forcing your emotions on another through very vocal dislike is a shitty thing to do, m'kay, so he decides to stop.

Remember, if he wasn't the magical ML and that was the darling FL predestined to some other main character of another story, he'd be a quite the detestable antagonist with his conduct. We'd hate the shit out of him for being a delusional, pushy creep. Or the silly non-person mob to be laughed at, if it were played for laughs and not for impact. Fair.

The biggest issue with him is all that idolization and carrying her on a palanquin. Common, to be fair, but still not lucid or healthy.


Tl;Dr: Y'all handling him as the hero of a story, even if he's in-universe just another chump. If he saw himself through the perspective you're trying to push onto him, he'd belong into an asylum.
 
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This would probably be better if he gave up because she's a tsundere and he's tired of abuse instead of blaming himself for not being good enough.

I'd kill for a series where the tsundere loses because of how abusive she is.
But remember: a Tsundere isn't a shitty person, as being a shitty person is a tsundere thing to do and is therefore totally excused for the tsundere character. Because tsundere. Repeat this for all other one-note star-signs descriptors ad nauseam.

This shit's literal astrology for mango readers, I swear.
 
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But remember: a Tsundere isn't a shitty person, as being a shitty person is a tsundere thing to do and is therefore totally excused for the tsundere character. Because tsundere. Repeat this for all other one-note star-signs descriptors ad nauseam.

This shit's literal astrology for mango readers, I swear.
tsundere is shit when there too much tsun and not enough dere to back it up
 
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tsundere is shit when there too much tsun and not enough dere to back it up
If we go by those terms, it's not the lack of dere, but the presence of tsun. She's not easily flustered or putting her foot in her mouth (and even here, it's called that because it's bad and to be made up for, not doubled down on). She's just fundamentally pretty shit as a person and some scant flashes of affection wouldn't patch that. Even towards a simp like the MC.
 
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This would probably be better if he gave up because she's a tsundere and he's tired of abuse instead of blaming himself for not being good enough.

I'd kill for a series where the tsundere loses because of how abusive she is.
There is a manga like this.

I’m Sick and Tired of My Childhood Friend’s, Now Girlfriend’s

 

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