Yuusha Party kara Oidasareta Fuguushoku [Wanashi] Yunikku Sukiru [Yajirushi] de Saikyou ni Naru - Ch. 10

[JJTheWeeb]

Wait, why tf was he the one apologizing for not seeing them, they were the ones that “respectfully said he’s not needed.” Or am I just dumb and not understanding things? Also, It’s totally gunna be annoying if this is another one of those series that has a ton of people constantly watching/spying on the mc knowing exactly what he’s doing and where he is, but somehow he’ll have zero clue throughout.

he said sorry for not seeing/saying goodbye/see you later to the rest of the team, only team leader was there when he was fired. theres a scene in ch.2 i believe where old team leader is confronted for not involving the other 2.

and yea, to remind everyone elsev even mc was thinking of quitting. he didn't exactly want to voice it because he enjoyed being with them, but he was objectively hindering the rest of the team and knew it, hence accepting the firing (even rejecting the compensation offered of 1/4 of the team's assets)

 

[JJTheWeeb]

Taking into consideration some of them are even spying on him, showing that they are not only strong but also have an information network which make them clearly smart, I don't see how possibly he, who as far as we have seen is not smarted than the average person, could lead them, apart from the fact that they like him so they might just do what he ask.

You talk about the "basic idea of a hero's journey", I don't disagree with you, the problem is the end goal being literally just becoming as strong as someone else instead of becoming as strong as you could or as strong as you need to become. I don't feel that a protagonist who follows behind someone else's shadow is their own person, but just a forever wannabe. Instead of someone who is trying to become the best version of themselves, that's way more interesting. In this case it is just a "we already have 3 of them, the mc wants it to be 4 for them, that's it"

i don't think it's "trying to be soneone else", its becoming himself, but stronger. the way we frame the adventure is really important in this case. He doesn't want to be his old friends vevause he has his own abilities, he wants to be an improved version of himself with his own abilities.

he's not exactly chasing the previous party to "be them" either, in fact this chapter even implies that the old party wants to work with his, not specifically rehire him, which makes it feel different.

the idea of "chasing someone else's shadow" being a bad thing is also a problem when it's a super broad idea. any story can be painted that way if some "legendary hero" existed: are all new up and coming heroes' stories worse because they're "chasing someone's shadow?" by trying to become a new era's "legendary hero".

other example that came to mind: is a story bad cause a hero aims to "be stronger than the demon lord, since now he's chasing the demon Lord's shadow?, that's the problem of pure equating strength with someone's "shadow"

 

[mrclamp]

idk man, a story of the MC trying to get back to where he was before is kinda boring, I would prefer if he was doing his own thing instead of playing catch with his old party. It feels like danmachi with Bell's whole thing being to want to be as strong as blondie. It is destined to be an "omg! I got stronger! But not strong enough!" forever. I'm not a fan of the MC whole goal is to be someone else

I mean, there was no bad blood really amongst any of them. Sure Kukuri here was mad that he just left the party and didn't say goodbye, but we see that all three girls in the party respect and care for him. Their decision was rather mature and the way it was handled was also pretty mature.

This is refreshing to see that there is no animosity at all. He wants to get better and stronger because he cares for them, not because he thinks he was unjustly removed from the party or looking to prove them wrong.

I personally like this take.

 

[ScryedParadox]

Ok, so we have confirmation now that it is an MP system. And that his limit is generally somewhere around 10 traps based on the previous battle. I didn't quite count. And we don't know what MP cost each trap has, but 10 trap usage is a good rough number to work with, sometimes he may cast more, sometimes he may cast less, but as a general ball park, probably never more than double that amount if we assume that his cheapest trap to cast is around half the cost so double the usage.

And I see the DM is planning the next encounter.

 

[xAKLx]

I mean, there was no bad blood really amongst any of them. Sure Kukuri here was mad that he just left the party and didn't say goodbye, but we see that all three girls in the party respect and care for him. Their decision was rather mature and the way it was handled was also pretty mature.

This is refreshing to see that there is no animosity at all. He wants to get better and stronger because he cares for them, not because he thinks he was unjustly removed from the party or looking to prove them wrong.

I personally like this take.

You like the take of the mc just chasing someone else? 💀 Why can't he just be like "I want to be the very best" or something like that? Why are other people already living the MC's dreams? It just feels weird, the MC is like a "temporarily embarrassed member of the party" instead of someone who accepts that he got exiled and is doing his own thing now. And again, we know how the chasing thing works, he can't ever reach them until the end because reaching them is his end goal.

 

[dokidoki]

Oh wow the old team still actually talks to him and wishes for him to catch up, ngl that's fucking great, wish more series would do stuff like that as in the break up not being bad blood

Heck she even acknowledge that there must've been a misunderstanding between MC and the party for him to leave
that's fucking amazing for there to be chars to realize that

Now that I think about it I feel like I'm getting excited for something so simple but I guess its because the majority of manga's have pretty poor writing when it comes to things like this so its refreshing to see something new where people aren't THAT stupid, guess the bar really is that low for me LMAO

 

[gloss]

And again, we know how the chasing thing works, he can't ever reach them until the end because reaching them is his end goal.

Reaching them is his current goal. We've seen what the end goal of the story itself is, it's defeating that gate that the arm came out of and/or eventually finding out what's up with the goddess who iirc is also a self proclaimed devil or something.

Either way, those three things don't have to coincide with one another, he could and probably will catch up to them before the other two, but catching up might not be enough to solve the other two problems.

Plus, he has a new party now that he will likely spend the majority of the rest of the manga getting attached to, which will probably also result in his goals changing.

In the end I'm actually mostly with you though, and I'm mostly playing devil's advocate, since I have doubts that the people working on this have thought that hard about it, but we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Cpu2069]

Eh, to me this kinda feels like an abusive relationship. Where the "abuser" (the girls) leaves the "abusee" (MC) and the abusee is trying everything to get back to the abuser due to psychological issues. But maybe i'm projecting something even though i'm single...

nah, you're def wrong. Never think too hard about something with the harem tag.

 

[Cpu2069]

I've got some big predictions:

Spoiler

Mc will grow strong enough to enter gate when the raid happens, obviously. But, remember giant fking hand that we say in the 1st chapter? Yeah, that hand, the one that came out of the portal that THE RAID IS GOING TO BE IN! my big prediction is that everyone except mc gets absolutely Smoked but the mc doesn't cus he built different like that, or because of plot(armor). Anyways he claps back at the big bad and makes their booty cheeks ripple themselves out of existence (or into a new side/supporting character). But oh no! This was only ONE of the multiple big super gates. So of course, in manga fashion, this gate was actually the weakest of them all! And for some reason relating to the loli goddess he is the only one capable of sealing them or something like that. Ok, ok, here comes another big one: nobody actually knows that he is the only reason the raid succeeded so he doesn't get any credit and instead holy sword (his old party) gets all the glory. So typically they cant let him back in to the party (the girls know that he is the "chosen one" tho) because of plot reasons, also, the first or second big raid boss of the origin gates will be a hotty or a loli that joins the harem.

Btw
i know all this because I have read about half of the isekai manga on this site, same thing with harem manga, since there's a lot of overlap between isekai and harem. And yeah, I know this isn't technically an isekai, but it is based around dungeons in the real world which only exists to add more relatable things and real world concepts to the story, at least compared to normal isekai. So I'll die on the hill of calling it an Isekai.

 

[Salfaro]

It's nice to see a situation where the group breaks up, and there isn't either animosity or some godawful misunderstanding that generates animosity before they can meet up again.

 

[Dalek-Bob]

While I agree the level of maturity on display is refreshing, something still feels off to me about his former teammates. I don't know if it is just we haven't seen enough of them yet, but they feel weirdly distant maybe?

I dunno how to put it, but they give me weird vibes so far.

 

[kaptenkeren]

Why only him and old party know how dangerous the boss monster is. They didn't share monster info to others? What a dick

He is good for his level, but the level gap between him and old team is still too large(75 vs 25x). His advantage over average player right now seems to be that he can do above average DPS (from pretty much 0 DPS before) and, more importantly, has the experience of playing the game with pro player and know advance strats.

How exp systems work in this story anyway? The dude lvling with old party together from the start but their lv gap is ridiculously far. Instead help him lvling, they just kick him out.

Care because afraid hurting him .... That's soft way to say to get rid of the pest/burden/trash.

Guess author play safe. I mean, in any revenge story, the one who remove the mc always meet unfortunate event. Like dead, public shame etc or if girl, kidnapped, raped, etc ...

 

[Takuma_Aki]

Why only him and old party know how dangerous the boss monster is. They didn't share monster info to others? What a dick


How exp systems work in this story anyway? The dude lvling with old party together from the start but their lv gap is ridiculously far. Instead help him lvling, they just kick him out.

Care because afraid hurting him .... That's soft way to say to get rid of the pest/burden/trash.

Guess author play safe. I mean, in any revenge story, the one who remove the mc always meet unfortunate event. Like dead, public shame etc or if girl, kidnapped, raped, etc ...

His explanation was he only earn XP when monster fall for his trap. What I interpret was, he earns nothing from damage that isn't caused by his trap (e.g. stabbing monster with the sword given by Usui like he did, for example); whether or not he earns anything at all when monster was hit by his trap and dies by other's hand is unclear, but that should be possible.

So, possible scenario is, his friend probably tried to train a mob into his trap to gives him XP (hence why he can be this high level despite having a job with very restrictive leveling condition) but the gap will naturally grow wider the longer the time and there probably comes a point where the gap becomes too large that doing so isn't a very safe option anymore (his trap kills too slow or cannot kill at all, and probably does so little damage that the XP earn is insufficient).

As to why they don't stay in low level dungeon to level him... this can be explained away with all kind of sound reasons; we'll have to wait and see if author will ever explain it (and will they make a good reason or a flop); but off the top of my head as an example, as No.1 party, the dungeon they participate might be assigned by government or something, or it might not be a good impression for high level party to hog a low level (than themselves) all the time.

As for safety as a reason, I mean, this is not a game despite having level systems and everything. It's perma-death. Or even if not dead outright, I'm not sure the healing skill is enough to regenerate severed limbs; disability might also be on the table. And his friends do explicitly say they want to marry him once they retire. If they keep drag him along, he'll probably die before they retire. It's kinda implied there are other normal jobs he can do for a living that doesn't involve going into dungeon. So, it is a good enough reason to me.

 

[Scipo0419]

No idea why, but the note: "If fate allows it, I hope we meet again in the next volume" hit way harder than the standard "thanks for your support. I hope to see you next volume"

 

[exxeld]

To this series benefit I’m glad Mc isn’t instantly bullshit status op but seeing his performance so far I’m a little surprised he managed to keep with his old party at all. They seem like very strong and while Mc is pretty sharp, I don’t know how much he was actually contributing to the entire party before since we never really saw them in action together.

 

[mrclamp]

While I agree the level of maturity on display is refreshing, something still feels off to me about his former teammates. I don't know if it is just we haven't seen enough of them yet, but they feel weirdly distant maybe?

I dunno how to put it, but they give me weird vibes so far.

I felt the same thing from them. I do wonder if it is one of two things:

1. They realize he were to see them in any capacity he might be compelled to do something he shouldn't. Beforehand they all thought since he didn't have the same strength as them he would just give up being an adventurer, but instead he is getting stronger as an adventurer and the ones on the old team who know are happy about it.
2. All 3 are in love with him, which was confirmed in a prior chapter and this one. The girls don't want to steal a march on the others by meeting with him as it isn't fair to the other girls.

At this point for point 2 I am sure something will make it so that if he ends up with them he ends up with all of them. I can't see it not going that way because he still thinks about them...since they have been friends since they were kids. They are important to him.

 

[AsteroidCreator99]

So it wasn't god hand, it was a loli hand

 

[brocoli01]

Yo bro chill, no need to shout like that to her. Anyway, thanks for the update

 

[CelestialYuki25]

Chat what if the goddess is the one who is at the origin and does this so she can get husband.

 

[Takuma_Aki]

Chat what if the goddess is the one who is at the origin and does this so she can get husband.

...+1 to the Harem?